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eryx

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hey everyone,

ive been researching and trying to get everything straight for a while and wondering if this be a good first cycle.
im 21 5'11.5" 212 lbs bf somewhere around 14% id say lifting for 5 years 2 seriously and i have my diet and training in check.


4 week cycle epi at 10/20/30/40 (if i feel i can up the dosage)
ON cycle supps:
AI cycle support(preloading for a week)
basics (whey multi bcaa etc.)

PCT:
nolva 40/40/20/20
AI post cycle support
creatine mono

Is this enought for a PCT, or is there anything important i am missing? Thanks!
 
I would take the cyc support all the way through. Also, you need some sort of natty test booster in your PCT. If it were me, I would drop the PCS and replace it with cycle support.
 
a natty test booster isnt NECESSARY but would def not hurt.... personally i prefer toremifene to nolva, ive used both multiple times and prefer torm very much so as it works considerably faster and for anyone that says torem isnt legit i have blood for it and drive used alone post cycle therapy from a 6 week dbol and epi cycle. stuff works damngood. id prob choose powerfull for my test booster since it will help with rest (GH release)and keeping gains considerably
 
eryx said:
hey everyone,

ive been researching and trying to get everything straight for a while and wondering if this be a good first cycle.
im 21 5'11.5" 212 lbs bf somewhere around 14% id say lifting for 5 years 2 seriously and i have my diet and training in check.


4 week cycle epi at 10/20/30/40 (if i feel i can up the dosage)
ON cycle supps:
AI cycle support(preloading for a week)
basics (whey multi bcaa etc.)

post cycle therapy:
nolva 40/40/20/20
AI post cycle support
creatine mono

Is this enought for a post cycle therapy, or is there anything important i am missing? Thanks!
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Looking good! I would just keep the Cycle Support going through your Post Cycle Therapy too.

As to the test booster POST Cycle Support has Horney Goat Weed(Icariins)

Horny Goat Weed (HWG) is a great source of the testosterone mimetic, Icariin. Research on Icariin has shown it to increase circulating testosterone levels as well as improve reproductive organs, making it a great therapeutic for hypoandrogenic states (like right after a steroids cycle).

So you would need

2 jars Cycle Support
Whey, BCAAs etc
Nolva
1 bottle POST Cycle Support
Creatine mono

Keep us updated.


CROWLER
 
CROWLER said:
Looking good! I would just keep the Cycle Support going through your Post Cycle Therapy too.

As to the test booster POST Cycle Support has Horney Goat Weed(Icariins)

Horny Goat Weed (HWG) is a great source of the testosterone mimetic, Icariin. Research on Icariin has shown it to increase circulating testosterone levels as well as improve reproductive organs, making it a great therapeutic for hypoandrogenic states (like right after a steroids cycle).

So you would need

2 jars Cycle Support
Whey, BCAAs etc
Nolva
1 bottle POST Cycle Support
Creatine mono

Keep us updated.


CROWLER
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Damn Crowler. I just rec'd my latest order from NP and I forgot to order me some Post Cycle Support. I will be starting Epi tomorrow and have plenty of supps I can use for PCT but I would have liked to try PCS. Problem is, being in Canada, shipping for a bottle would cost me about half of the product price...oh well, maybe next time!
 
ARGHHHHH Nutra Planet has to start emailing their products out HA :)

Save you darn canuks on that shipping lol

BTW it is COLD COLD COLD HERE! I think it is only 50 degrees here what is the temp there :stick:



CROWLER
 
Alright, thanks for the input guys.

So i will be running CS through the entire cycle as that seems everyone agrees. I will also be buying both powerfull and PCS, as I am hearing very good things about both. If I feel either the powerfull or pcs is not needed i can always save one for a future cycle anyway :thumbsup:

As for the torem, is it really worth the extra cash if I can get nolva? I am quickly on my way to becoming a very poor college student!
 
CROWLER said:
ARGHHHHH Nutra Planet has to start emailing their products out HA :)

Save you darn canuks on that shipping lol

BTW it is COLD COLD COLD HERE! I think it is only 50 degrees here what is the temp there :stick:



CROWLER
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Last time I looked it was -24 Celsius which converts to approx. -11 Fahrenheit. 50 degrees sounds real nice right about now my friend.
 
If he sends me two I'll send you one and you can sort out the payment with him ;)

Amor Est Vitae Essentia,

Neoborn
 
eryx said:
Alright, thanks for the input guys.

So i will be running CS through the entire cycle as that seems everyone agrees. I will also be buying both powerfull and PCS, as I am hearing very good things about both. If I feel either the powerfull or pcs is not needed i can always save one for a future cycle anyway :thumbsup:

As for the torem, is it really worth the extra cash if I can get nolva? I am quickly on my way to becoming a very poor college student!
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i personally think its worth it as its less toxic and works so much faster, BUT nolva does work and if your on a tight budget then your prob better off getting the cheaper tamox or nolva.
 
One more question, if using powerfull in PCT, when should i begin dosing? The day after my last epi dose or sometime before that?
 
eryx said:
One more question, if using powerfull in post cycle therapy, when should i begin dosing? The day after my last epi dose or sometime before that?
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I would think you would start the day after your last dose of Epi but I'm not sure. I'm interested in this too as I have an unopened bottle of Powerfull I'd like to throw into my next PCT.
 
Ninjo said:
I would think you would start the day after your last dose of Epi but I'm not sure. I'm interested in this too as I have an unopened bottle of Powerfull I'd like to throw into my next post cycle therapy.
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id think your best bet is to take your first dose the night of your last day taking epi. epi has a very short half life and powerfull can start helping boost test production that night, not to mention it will start on the extra GH release.
 
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