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First Cycle: A No or a Go?

Vidya

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It keeps denying my post I'm trying to make any ideas on how to help? I actually have a legit thread I need to post.

Should I just post it in pieces?

Basically I'm 6'4, 200 Lbs, 22 y/o and looking to get my feet wet with IML 4-Andro & R-Super Andro stacked with both at their recommended dosages for a 4 week cycle (The R-Andro should counter the 4-andros estrogenic sides & my buddy and I ruled out 1-Andro as its a bit harsher, he already has anger problems etc) and the PCT with Nolva pills at 20/20/20/20 for 4 weeks. No liver supp as they're not methylated (BTW does this mean I can drink maybe a little? or throw in a liver supp if I really want to) and maybe an on cycle support if I notice my blood pressure escalating.

Anyways I'm kinda mad my actual post can't be posted but I think this is a good starter cycle to jump in let me know what you think.
 
Vidya said:
It keeps denying my post I'm trying to make any ideas on how to help? I actually have a legit thread I need to post.

Should I just post it in pieces?

Basically I'm 6'4, 200 Lbs, 22 y/o and looking to get my feet wet with IML 4-Andro & R-Super Andro stacked with both at their recommended dosages for a 4 week cycle (The R-Andro should counter the 4-andros estrogenic sides & my buddy and I ruled out 1-Andro as its a bit harsher, he already has anger problems etc) and the PCT with Nolva pills at 20/20/20/20 for 4 weeks. No liver supp as they're not methylated (BTW does this mean I can drink maybe a little? or throw in a liver supp if I really want to) and maybe an on cycle support if I notice my blood pressure escalating.

Anyways I'm kinda mad my actual post can't be posted but I think this is a good starter cycle to jump in let me know what you think.
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It looks okay. 4 weeks is too short to see optimum gains though with the DHEA derived andros. 6-8 is optimal. No cycle support is okay. I wouldn't drink but that's me. 1-2 occasionally won't hurt. For PCT taper down your SERM. 20/20/10/10 is standard.
 
Jebrook said:
It looks okay. 4 weeks is too short to see optimum gains though with the DHEA derived andros. 6-8 is optimal. No cycle support is okay. I wouldn't drink but that's me. 1-2 occasionally won't hurt. For PCT taper down your SERM. 20/20/10/10 is standard.
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It levels out to about $100 total for me since I have some old nolva on hand my buddy just gave to me a while ago which is perfect because I don't have too much to spend right now. Do you think the gains will still be adequate for a first cycle? I'm looking for at least 5-7ish pounds I can hold onto and some better strength and maybe some leaning and body recomp. Thanks for the prompt response guys.
 
Vidya said:
It levels out to about $100 total for me since I have some old nolva on hand my buddy just gave to me a while ago which is perfect because I don't have too much to spend right now. Do you think the gains will still be adequate for a first cycle? I'm looking for at least 5-7ish pounds I can hold onto and some better strength and maybe some leaning and body recomp. Thanks for the prompt response guys.
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Yeah that's probably realistic. I'm not familiar with IML's andros so I have no basis for comparison. If you decide to do a 2nd cycle later on look into the OL UK lineup. Generally for ph/DS you won't find better value per serving plus our raws are lab tested and top quality.
 
Those compounds are too weak to run for just 4 weeks. Cycle support isn't necessarily needed put all orals put some stress on the body so I always run Cycle Assist even when just running non methyls.

Everything else sounds good though.
 
Also, I am close to graduation and will be attempting to go the officer route in the Army, and have been talking to the recruiter. Will any of these substances be a cause of alarm on paper with them after a blood test? Or the levels not too high
 
If you are going to do a 4 week run, 1-andro is not a bad idea. Look into 1-Testosterone or 1-AD. Both will do you better in a 4 week run. Otherwise, you need to increase your cycle duration. Your pct could remain the same with 1-andro.
 
You're 22 and trying to get Commissioned in the Army? You're too young to be messing with your HPTA IMO (good lord, go get your T levels checked now, and bask in the glow of super-high ng/dl). You will also lose every single ounce you gain, during your training... and more LBM is a detriment when the Army *still* considers Running, Pushups, Pullups, and Situps as the key to awesomeness, 'tis all about endurance my man. Just Eat, Sleep, and Lift bud.
 
Vidya said:
It keeps denying my post I'm trying to make any ideas on how to help? I actually have a legit thread I need to post.

Should I just post it in pieces?

Basically I'm 6'4, 200 Lbs, 22 y/o and looking to get my feet wet with IML 4-Andro & R-Super Andro stacked with both at their recommended dosages for a 4 week cycle (The R-Andro should counter the 4-andros estrogenic sides & my buddy and I ruled out 1-Andro as its a bit harsher, he already has anger problems etc) and the PCT with Nolva pills at 20/20/20/20 for 4 weeks. No liver supp as they're not methylated (BTW does this mean I can drink maybe a little? or throw in a liver supp if I really want to) and maybe an on cycle support if I notice my blood pressure escalating.

Anyways I'm kinda mad my actual post can't be posted but I think this is a good starter cycle to jump in let me know what you think.
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I would still not drink at all as if nothing else it is detrimintal. I am personally running an andro blend and a larger epiandro dose. No anger issues, no sides really so far. Going a full 8 weeks myself.
 
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