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FDA is trying to ban Compounded TRT

I'm not for mandating the Covid vaxx, not at all. And following a little what @Kronic said about your employer making medical decisions like this on your behalf, that's not cool and even more worrying is, what's next?

I don't like most of the restrictions made for unvaccinated population and the use of Covid-pass in most places, but as for trying to reduce the load on hospitals, I can see at least the point of the idea on paper for some cases, when just looking at stats. In here your Covid-pass is gtg with having had the Covid too btw, and no vaxx needed in that case (although I think it's only valid for 6 months after testing positive).

If you are refusing to have the vaxx, due to fighting back the forcing of it on people that's happening, I understand that and see honor in that even. Or if you just don't feel like you need it and have no reason to get it, then ok, that's your right to choose so (should be). But if your ONLY reason not to get it is the fear of possible side effects and you're not in a risk group of sorts, then aren't you making your life a little difficult? Just a genuine question/pov, no disrespect meant.

I don't think I would've needed the vaxx and made the decision to have it pretty late, but practicing my profession would be difficult with out it. I'm not afraid of Covid, nor the Covid vaxx. I'm confident I'll survive both with out issues (untill proven otherwise).
 
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Ban TRT you say?!?! Well sheeeit, quick fix:
Tell “them” that you are in a gender transition. “They” will subsidize your script, overnight air mail it and also send you a tax refund check!
What a country.
 
KvanH said:
Okey, an unpopular post to be followed, I assume, but here goes.

I'm not for mandating the Covid vaxx, not at all. And following a little what @Kronic said about your employer making medical decisions like this on your behalf, that's not cool and even more worrying is, what's next?

I don't like most of the restrictions made for unvaccinated population and the use of Covid-pass in most places, but as for trying to reduce the load on hospitals, I can see at least the point of the idea on paper for some cases, when just looking at stats. In here your Covid-pass is gtg with having had the Covid too btw, and no vaxx needed in that case (although I think it's only valid for 6 months after testing positive).

If you are refusing to have the vaxx, due to fighting back the forcing of it on people that's happening, I understand that and see honor in that even. Or if you just don't feel like you need it and have no reason to get it, then ok, that's your right to choose so (should be). But if your ONLY reason not to get it is the fear of possible side effects and your not in a risk group of sorts, then aren't you making your life a little difficult? Just a genuine question/pov, no disrespect meant.

I don't think I would've needed the vaxx and made the decision to have it pretty late, but practicing my profession would be difficult with out it. I'm not afraid of Covid, nor the Covid vaxx. I'm confident I'll survive both with out issues (untill proven otherwise).

That's all, cheers ✌
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No side effects?
You on trt? Which vaccine did you get
 
whoa... i just read from a post by genral flynn: over 1000 lawyers and 10k Physicians have filed suit against the CDC and WHO for medical fraud, fearmongering, and crimes against humanity.

Dr. Riener Fuellmich: " we are looking at approximately 500k deaths from the vaks in the US alone! "
 
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whoa... i just read from a post by genral flynn: over 1000 lawyers and 10k Physicians have filed suit against the CDC and WHO for medical fraud, fearmongering, and crimes against humanity.

Dr. Riener Fuellmich: " we are looking at approximately 500k deaths from the vaks in the US alone! "
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Can you post a link? Of course Google will block it if I try to search
 
I'm pretty sure most Republicans support vaccines. It's not the vaccine it is the authoritarian mandate we oppose.

And with the undeniable weaponization of covid by the kooky left they have destroyed all credibility with covid.

Move to Florida, we have been going to skrewel, gyms, etc. And we're not dying off.

I bet more people have complications with compounded hormones than the vaccine.
They see the pass.. why not throw the ball?

Don't forget to sign ben shapiro petition.
Over 850k signed. Idonotcomply petition
 
KvanH said:
I'm not for mandating the Covid vaxx, not at all. And following a little what @Kronic said about your employer making medical decisions like this on your behalf, that's not cool and even more worrying is, what's next?

I don't like most of the restrictions made for unvaccinated population and the use of Covid-pass in most places, but as for trying to reduce the load on hospitals, I can see at least the point of the idea on paper for some cases, when just looking at stats. In here your Covid-pass is gtg with having had the Covid too btw, and no vaxx needed in that case (although I think it's only valid for 6 months after testing positive).

If you are refusing to have the vaxx, due to fighting back the forcing of it on people that's happening, I understand that and see honor in that even. Or if you just don't feel like you need it and have no reason to get it, then ok, that's your right to choose so (should be). But if your ONLY reason not to get it is the fear of possible side effects and you're not in a risk group of sorts, then aren't you making your life a little difficult? Just a genuine question/pov, no disrespect meant.

I don't think I would've needed the vaxx and made the decision to have it pretty late, but practicing my profession would be difficult with out it. I'm not afraid of Covid, nor the Covid vaxx. I'm confident I'll survive both with out issues (untill proven otherwise).
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my wife and i tested positive 11 months ago, and we still have immunity-and personally we don't know a single person who has been infected twice-do you?
 
just curious if anyone here knows someone who has been infected twice?

ANYONE?
 
I refuse to go get a test. If I get sick and end up tappin out, well, then I figure it's my time. otherwise, I will treat this like any other cold or flu. plenty of rest and lots of fluids.
 
thebigt said:
my wife and i tested positive 11 months ago, and we still have immunity-and personally we don't know a single person who has been infected twice-do you?
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Nope, but I don't pesonally know many people who have been infected in the first place, or that would have told me about it. I think there are some cases, when some people have been infected more, than once, but I guess that's rare 🤷‍♂️ May have been different variants, maybe? To my knowledge, having had Covid gives better immunity, than the vaccine. They say having Covid + having the vaccine would give the best immunity though, but I don't know about that.
 
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thebigt said:
just curious if anyone here knows someone who has been infected twice?

ANYONE?
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Well what that Dr on joe Rogan was saying that reinfections seem to happen, but without some special tests confirming it's a real reinfection, it hasn't been proven.

he thinks the reinfections we see are the same strain that never left your body, or a false positive for flu.

I'm not sure I buy that reinfections never happen. there's immune compromised people out there and the variants are evolving rapidly
 
Kronic said:
Well what that Dr on joe Rogan was saying that reinfections seem to happen, but without some special tests confirming it's a real reinfection, it hasn't been proven.

he thinks the reinfections we see are the same strain that never left your body, or a false positive for flu.

I'm not sure I buy that reinfections never happen. there's immune compromised people out there and the variants are evolving rapidly
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That rogan interview they already scrubbed off YouTube?
 
SkRaw85 said:
That rogan interview they already scrubbed off YouTube?
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maybe? he only posts highlights to youtube now. it seems to be up on spotify still. would not be surprised if it gets removed though. the doctor makes some bold claims
link:
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Kronic said:
Well what that Dr on joe Rogan was saying that reinfections seem to happen, but without some special tests confirming it's a real reinfection, it hasn't been proven.

he thinks the reinfections we see are the same strain that never left your body, or a false positive for flu.

I'm not sure I buy that reinfections never happen. there's immune compromised people out there and the variants are evolving rapidly
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that is not what i was asking...do YOU or ANYONE else personally know ANYONE who has been reinfected?

i'm not talking about statistics or what someone else has to say about it--i am looking for PERSONAL experience.
 
sammpedd88 said:
Actually I do. A guy I work with, he had it twice.
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was he vaccinated?

my little neck of the woods was hit hard with covid at same time my wife and i were infected with it-last march[11 months ago], no one we know of has been reinfected...and none of us were vaccinated prior to be infected-the vaccines weren't readily available to general public back then-at least not here.
 
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KvanH said:
Nope, but I don't pesonally know many people who have been infected in the first place, or that would have told me about it. I think there are some cases, when some people have been infected more, than once, but I guess that's rare 🤷‍♂️ May have been different variants, maybe? To my knowledge, having had Covid gives better immunity, than the vaccine. They say having Covid + having the vaccine would give the best immunity though, but I don't know about that.
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'they say', lol...my late father in law [RIP ART] used to say-'who is they'?
 
thebigt said:
that is not what i was asking...do YOU or ANYONE else personally know ANYONE who has been reinfected?

i'm not talking about statistics or what someone else has to say about it--i am looking for PERSONAL experience.
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TBH I don't know very many people. technically I don't even know very many people who have even had it once. so I don't use that measurement
 
Kronic said:
TBH I don't know very many people. technically I don't even know very many people who have even had it once. so I don't use that measurement
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i've been on this forum for awhile now and the one thing i have learned is that studies and statistics can be manipulated, and i've found this to be true for much more than just bodybuilding products.

when it comes to any info about covid i trust what i know from my personal experience much more that any article, study or statistic--although i readily admit to searching out things that reinforce my experiences...this is my point, everyone seems to have a bias either one way or the other.
 
thebigt said:
was he vaccinated?

my little neck of the woods was hit hard with covid at same time my wife and i were infected with it-last march[11 months ago], no one we know of has been reinfected...and none of us were vaccinated prior to be infected-the vaccines weren't readily available to general public back then-at least not here.
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He was not and he will not get the vaccine! He had it July of 2020 and May of 2021. He’s on the team with me. We were in an op and he wasn’t feeling well. He’s the source I contracted it from.
 
I'm just trying to keep a level head about reinfections. saying they don't happen because there's no proof is basically the same thing that has been used to prove vaccines not having many dangerous side effects.

now they can find some dude with advanced AIDS who gets reinfected and be like "we were right!".

all we have is an FOA request that returned saying they don't have proof of reinfections, but it also states they don't track it
 
sammpedd88 said:
He was not and he will not get the vaccine! He had it July of 2020 and May of 2021. He’s on the team with me. We were in an op and he wasn’t feeling well. He’s the source I contracted it from.
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based on my personal experience of not knowing a single person who has been reinfected it must be fairly rare--but in all honesty it should be clarified that you are in a high risk of exposure occupation...my bet is the criminals you deal with are not the most health conscious group-eh? :)

my money says his 2nd infection was on the very mild side?
 
Kronic said:
I'm just trying to keep a level head about reinfections. saying they don't happen because there's no proof is basically the same thing that has been used to prove vaccines not having many dangerous side effects.

now they can find some dude with advanced AIDS who gets reinfected and be like "we were right!".

all we have is an FOA request that returned saying they don't have proof of reinfections, but it also states they don't track it
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why in the world would they NOT track this?

my 'GUESS' is they don't want to give verification to the argument that those like my wife and i should't be coerced/forced into getting a vaccine we do not want.

just another example of how statistics are manipulated--if statistics don't reinforce the agenda they are pushing , they just claim they don't track those statistics--that, in the political world is called plausible deniability.
 
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thebigt said:
why in the world would they NOT track this?

my 'GUESS' is they don't want to give verification to the argument that those like my wife and i should't be coerced/forced into getting a vaccine we do not want.
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my guess is reinfections are more common in vaccinated 🥳 because technically getting a breakthrough infection is a reinfection of sorts
 
I thought the Israel study had reinfections of natural immunity? was their testing not good enough?
 
Kronic said:
my guess is reinfections are more common in vaccinated 🥳 because technically getting a breakthrough infection is a reinfection of sorts
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plus it is my understanding that if you get vaccinated and then get infected you don't build up anti-bodies like a un-vaccinated person would?
 
Kronic said:
I thought the Israel study had reinfections of natural immunity? was their testing not good enough?
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The Israel study shows vaxxed are 7 times more likely to reinfwxt than the naturally immune, but...watch the Rogan vid above. He said there are no reinfection, period. I believe his reasoning.
 
poison said:
The Israel study shows vaxxed are 7 times more likely to reinfwxt than the naturally immune, but...watch the Rogan vid above. He said there are no reinfection, period. I believe his reasoning.
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if what that Dr said is true, then the Israel data on natural immunity would be wrong. I listened to the entire podcast.
 
Kronic said:
if what that Dr said is true, then the Israel data on natural immunity would be wrong. I listened to the entire podcast.
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Yes and no. After primary infection, any secondary infections would be false. But the basic premise of natural immunity VS vaccine immunity stands: the vax creates a narrow immune response, and you can get infected, whereas naturally immune cannot.
 
jiu jitsu said:
Im scared lol. Allegedly tons of woman have claimed it raised their progesterone and Estradiol as well. Any guys on here get bloodwork done after the vax?
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No change in mine. I'm getting my booster soon and plan on getting labs two weeks after anyways. I'll report back.
 
jiu jitsu said:
Im scared lol. Allegedly tons of woman have claimed it raised their progesterone and Estradiol as well. Any guys on here get bloodwork done after the vax?
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I got my 2nd moderna shot in April then had bloodwork completed in September for TRT. E2 was actually crushed below range from the prescribed AI at 1/2mg 2x a week. I’ve actually cut the dose and take 1/2 mg once a week now. Progesterone was not tested, but I am feeling benefits from supplementing it with 100mg a day orally.

I was at the end of a 8 week cycle of 400mg Teat cyp/week and 50mg anavar/day cycle when I got the 2nd shot, no major sides other than extreme PIP and feeling sick for a few days.
 
thebigt said:
based on my personal experience of not knowing a single person who has been reinfected it must be fairly rare--but in all honesty it should be clarified that you are in a high risk of exposure occupation...my bet is the criminals you deal with are not the most health conscious group-eh? :)

my money says his 2nd infection was on the very mild side?
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You’re right about the criminals not being health conscious.

Yeah it was mild except for the reduced lung capacity. Took him a while to bounce back from the breathing issues.
 
thebigt said:
based on my personal experience of not knowing a single person who has been reinfected it must be fairly rare--but in all honesty it should be clarified that you are in a high risk of exposure occupation...my bet is the criminals you deal with are not the most health conscious group-eh? :)

my money says his 2nd infection was on the very mild side?
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You’re right about the criminals not being health conscious.

Yeah it was mild except for the reduced lung capacity. Took him a while to bounce back from the breathing issues.
 
sammpedd88 said:
You’re right about the criminals not being health conscious.

Yeah it was mild except for the reduced lung capacity. Took him a while to bounce back from the breathing issues.
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is he in the 85-100% recovered range now?
 
My wife just got the email. She works from home. Basically she will be terminated if she doesn't show proof of vaccine. She is the only one in my house that is vaccinated.
And she works for a bunch of good Ole boys Republicans in agriculture banking.

I'm so glad I'm self employed
 
I saw science.bio is closing because of these type regulations.

Why is Science.bio closing?
A: Unfortunately due to increased regulatory action over the last year we have concluded it is not possible to continue to operate.


I hope everyone is signing the petition!
 
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