FDA is trying to ban Compounded TRT

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Ban hormones that help people and are miracle drugs.

Push the Covid vaccine that has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands, defying every existing "FDA protocol" under the sun...

Hmmmm...seems to me the "conspiracy theorists" were correct. BigPharma and the FDA are not here to help us.

Shocking. (sarcasm)
 

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Ban hormones that help people and are miracle drugs.

Push the Covid vaccine that has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands, defying every existing "FDA protocol" under the sun...

Hmmmm...seems to me the "conspiracy theorists" were correct. BigPharma and the FDA are not here to help us.

Shocking. (sarcasm)
It is easier for women to get TRT than men.

Think about that for a sec
 
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biden's nomination for FDA cheif has very strong ties to big pharma--
Ban hormones that help people and are miracle drugs.

Push the Covid vaccine that has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands, defying every existing "FDA protocol" under the sun...

Hmmmm...seems to me the "conspiracy theorists" were correct. BigPharma and the FDA are not here to help us.

Shocking. (sarcasm)
biden's nomination for FDA chief Robert Califf has very strong ties to big pharma---imagine that?
 

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Ban hormones that help people and are miracle drugs.

Push the Covid vaccine that has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands, defying every existing "FDA protocol" under the sun...

Hmmmm...seems to me the "conspiracy theorists" were correct. BigPharma and the FDA are not here to help us.

Shocking. (sarcasm)
the covid vaccine has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands? lol :ROFLMAO:
 
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the covid vaccine has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands? lol :ROFLMAO:
Shameful that you make a post and have ZERO clue what you are talking about...

The CDC on Dec. 3 released the new data which show a total of 927,740 reports of adverse events following Covid vaccines were submitted between Dec. 14, 2020, and Nov. 26, 2021.






For public awareness and in the interest of transparency, CDC is providing timely updates on the following serious adverse events of interest:
  • Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.
  • Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 Vaccination is rare. As of November 24, 2021, more than 16.4 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 54 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and later developed TTS. Women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen. Learn more about J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS.
    • To date, two confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 437 million of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
  • CDC and FDA are monitoring reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 16.4 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine doses administered, there have been around 268 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of November 24, 2021. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many 50 years and older. CDC will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.
  • Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of November 24, 2021, VAERS has received 1,949 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 1,071 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis.
  • Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 459 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through November 29, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 10,128 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. CDC clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records. A review of reports indicates a causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—that causes blood clots with low platelets—which has caused or directly contributed to six confirmed deathsexternal icon.
 
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the covid vaccine has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands? lol :ROFLMAO:
'VAERS: Number of deaths reported after covid vaccines jumps more than 2,000 in one week'

interesting article if you care to read it.

from the CDC---VAERS is the national vaccine safety monitoring system that accepts reports of adverse events after vaccination.
Healthcare providers who administer vaccines are required by law to report to VAERS any adverse reacts following vaccination.
 

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Shameful that you make a post and have ZERO clue what you are talking about...

The CDC on Dec. 3 released the new data which show a total of 927,740 reports of adverse events following Covid vaccines were submitted between Dec. 14, 2020, and Nov. 26, 2021.






For public awareness and in the interest of transparency, CDC is providing timely updates on the following serious adverse events of interest:
  • Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.
  • Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 Vaccination is rare. As of November 24, 2021, more than 16.4 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 54 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and later developed TTS. Women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen. Learn more about J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS.
    • To date, two confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 437 million of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
  • CDC and FDA are monitoring reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 16.4 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine doses administered, there have been around 268 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of November 24, 2021. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many 50 years and older. CDC will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.
  • Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of November 24, 2021, VAERS has received 1,949 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 1,071 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis.
  • Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 459 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through November 29, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 10,128 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. CDC clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records. A review of reports indicates a causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—that causes blood clots with low platelets—which has caused or directly contributed to six confirmed deathsexternal icon.
Great. .. I have to get vaxxed for work next week too..
 
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Its difficult to do. you basically have to "prove it."

Im trying my best to get out of it
someone sent me this when I asked in another thread. I don't have to do it yet tho so idk if it will work for you
 

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Shameful that you make a post and have ZERO clue what you are talking about...

The CDC on Dec. 3 released the new data which show a total of 927,740 reports of adverse events following Covid vaccines were submitted between Dec. 14, 2020, and Nov. 26, 2021.






For public awareness and in the interest of transparency, CDC is providing timely updates on the following serious adverse events of interest:
  • Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.
  • Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 Vaccination is rare. As of November 24, 2021, more than 16.4 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 54 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and later developed TTS. Women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen. Learn more about J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS.
    • To date, two confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 437 million of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
  • CDC and FDA are monitoring reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 16.4 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine doses administered, there have been around 268 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of November 24, 2021. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many 50 years and older. CDC will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.
  • Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of November 24, 2021, VAERS has received 1,949 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 1,071 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis.
  • Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 459 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through November 29, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 10,128 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. CDC clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records. A review of reports indicates a causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—that causes blood clots with low platelets—which has caused or directly contributed to six confirmed deathsexternal icon.
the CDC is a joke! im shocked that you think the vaccine from the government is evil but you trust the governments cdc!!! lmao lol! im not a vax guy at all but you people spouting off all these statistics from the internet and fake news just kill me
 

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Shameful that you make a post and have ZERO clue what you are talking about...

The CDC on Dec. 3 released the new data which show a total of 927,740 reports of adverse events following Covid vaccines were submitted between Dec. 14, 2020, and Nov. 26, 2021.






For public awareness and in the interest of transparency, CDC is providing timely updates on the following serious adverse events of interest:
  • Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.
  • Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 Vaccination is rare. As of November 24, 2021, more than 16.4 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 54 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and later developed TTS. Women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen. Learn more about J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS.
    • To date, two confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 437 million of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
  • CDC and FDA are monitoring reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 16.4 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine doses administered, there have been around 268 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of November 24, 2021. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many 50 years and older. CDC will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.
  • Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of November 24, 2021, VAERS has received 1,949 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 1,071 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis.
  • Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 459 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through November 29, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 10,128 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. CDC clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records. A review of reports indicates a causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—that causes blood clots with low platelets—which has caused or directly contributed to six confirmed deathsexternal icon.
It is amazing how you managed to bold a sentence that shows correlation =/= causation, but then go ahead and draw that connection anyways....
 
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You realize so did at least two Trump FDA chiefs right? Namely Gottlieb.
does that make it right, yeah i voted for trump and think democrat politicians are ruining this country-this does NOT mean i agreed with everything trump did....it was wrong when trump did it so are you saying it's ok for biden to do it?

if trump did something i thought was wrong i called him out for it---it's about time democrats start calling out biden-eh?

c'mon man
 

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does that make it right, yeah i voted for trump and think democrat politicians are ruining this country-this does NOT mean i agreed with everything trump did....it was wrong when trump did it so are you saying it's ok for biden to do it?

if trump did something i thought was wrong i called him out for it---it's about time democrats start calling out biden-eh?

c'mon man
Just want to know where the big Pharma conspiracy was about 4 years ago lol.
 

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Compounded trt? What does that mean if it goes through all the online clinics where you pay 100 to 200 cash a month will just dissappear?
 
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does that make it right, yeah i voted for trump and think democrat politicians are ruining this country-this does NOT mean i agreed with everything trump did....it was wrong when trump did it so are you saying it's ok for biden to do it?

if trump did something i thought was wrong i called him out for it---it's about time democrats start calling out biden-eh?

c'mon man
Absolutely, I honestly don’t want trump to run again. I want Ron DeSantis, however if trump does run and beats out everyone else in the Republican Party. Your damn right I’m gonna be cheering him on like a mofo
 
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Absolutely, I honestly don’t want trump to run again. I want Ron DeSantis, however if trump does run and beats out everyone else in the Republican Party. Your damn right I’m gonna be cheering him on like a mofo
i don't care who the republican nominee is i will vote for him/her...after all democrats voted for a mentally deficient old guy clearly suffering from mental illness who thought he was running for the senate and campaigned from his basement--how can republicans do any worse than biden.

personally like someone already mentioned a desantis/tulsi gabbard ticket would kickass, imo.
 
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Please click and send an automated letter to the FDA and Congress:



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Thanks for posting this. I always recommend people actually take the time to write a CUSTOMIZED letter to their Congressional representatives, rather than a boilerplate fill out your name and click to submit the form. That's just slacktivism. All the rep is going to do is see that same boilerplate response a hundred times and ignore it.

Visit https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials and find out how to directly call or write your local/city/county/state/federal officials and contact them directly telling them personally, even if it's a very short letter, is much more effective than this point and click email submissions. Check out this letter I helped my friend in Texas right about them trying to ban Delta 8 and see how much more information it has and it doesn't have that boilerplate same ol' same ol' email campaign feeling to it.

And I apologize for your thread getting dereailed by anti-vaxxers below, but I'm going to have to derail it some more. :cautious:

Push the Covid vaccine that has killed tens of thousands and injured hundreds of thousands, defying every existing "FDA protocol" under the sun...
LOL, dude, here we go again with the COVID Anti-Vaxxers with their same arguments over and over that have no basis in reality.


FYI: I had to shorten all URLs in this post using v.gd so they would fit in the character limit. v.gd will show you the link before you go to it, but if you want to be doubly sure you can use CheckShortURL

By not getting vaccinated, you not only risk your own life & health, but of everyone around you including your family, friends, kids, coworkers or anyone else you come in close contact but especially children who can't get the vaccine yet And people with immunocompromised immune systems that can't get vaccinated. You could have COVID and not even know it because you could be an asymptomatic carrier. According to the CDC, the commonality of being an asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic carrier of COVID that could be spread to other people concluded:

Nearly 60% of all new coronavirus cases may come from people who carry the virus but who exhibit no symptoms of Covid-19. Overall, the model predicted that 59% of coronavirus transmission would come from people without symptoms, including 35% from people who were pre-symptomatic and 24% from those who never showed symptoms at all.
Source

You're putting a lot of people, yourself included at risk by not getting vaccinated. Just think of all the pain and suffering you ended up getting COVID and the medical bills (whether you have insurance or not). Think what it will do those people who love you who wish they could have done more to help you get vaccinated and the immense guilt they'll feel.

I've had the Medirna vaccine personally & everyone else I know has had it and we're all fine and I can attest I've had no adverse side effects and only a slight craving to eat brains.

I doubt you'll even bother reading any of that, but there they are in plain English. The science has been completely proven and is ironclad. You have nothing to be concerned about by getting the COVID-19 vaccine.

You've already been vaccinated your whole life. What's different this time?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

When you were first born your parents had you immediately innoculated against these common diseases:

  • Hepatitis B (2nd dose)
  • Diphtheria, tetanus, and whooping cough (pertussis) (DTaP)
  • Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
  • Polio (IPV)
  • Pneumococcal (PCV)
  • Rotavirus (RV)
Then when you went to public school you were required to get vaccines for the following diseases:

  • Diphtheria/tetanus/pertussis.
  • Polio.
  • Measles/mumps/rubella.
  • Hepatitis A and B and.
    Varicella.
  • After a student turns 11, they are required to be vaccinated against meningococcal meningitis.
You have to get vaccines when traveling overseas to some foreign countries.

More than likely these vaccines saved your life & you never even realized it. You were lucky not to live through the plague, the times of cholera where there were thousands of people lying dead in the streets & never have had dysentery, or the Spanish flu (which the COVID death rate has already surpassed) and especially polio and simply take it for granted you won't get these diseases when it reality it was government policies made before you were even born to keep you safe & alive so you can live your life in full and in safety from those common diseases. Currently, at the time of this writing there are 787,000 people who have died in the US. That's more deaths that the Spanish flu, the Vietnam War and even the Civil War which saw 750,000 dead.

It's understandable to be concerned about the unknown. But this virus was extensively tested by the FDA for over a year. You might argue it was rushed a little, but in a situation where there's a global pandemic, we needed this IMMEDIATELY. There will be further tests over the years, and I'm sure they will come back as having no long term side effects. Currently any and all adverse effects and side effects are being monitored by the The Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which is overseen by the FDA, CDC, WHO & Dept. of Veterans Affairs. So far, they're only seeing they have come to discover side effects are quite rare, happening in less than 1 in 200,000 vaccinated individuals. And these are just allergic reactions, which can be easily treated.

It's okay to ask questions, but when you go around spreading unfounded conspiracy theories that were dreamed up as mis/disinformation, asking for COVID cards, or otherwise just being an anti-vax pest, I will have something to say about it.

'I don't have COVID': Doctor says some COVID patients deny virus, decry vaccines from their deathbed (USA Today)

More than 99% of recent COVID deaths in US involve unvaccinated people, a 'sad and tragic' situation


Covid Hospitalizations by Vaccine Status Bar Graph​

How do dispute those statistics and still think it's a good idea not to get vaccinated?
 
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So the government is simultaneously trying to make hormones legal for children and illegal for adults. Wtf
 
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Thanks for posting this. I always recommend people actually take the time to write a CUSTOMIZED letter to their Congressional representatives, rather than a boilerplate fill out your name and click to submit the form. That's just slacktivism. All the rep is going to do is see that same boilerplate response a hundred times and ignore it.

Visit https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials and find out how to directly call or write your local/city/county/state/federal officials and contact them directly telling them personally, even if it's a very short letter, is much more effective than this point and click email submissions. Check out this letter I helped my friend in Texas right about them trying to ban Delta 8 and see how much more information it has and it doesn't have that boilerplate same ol' same ol' email campaign feeling to it.

And I apologize for your thread getting dereailed by anti-vaxxers below, but I'm going to have to derail it some more. :cautious:



LOL, dude, here we go again with the COVID Anti-Vaxxers with their same arguments over and over that have no basis in reality.


FYI: I had to shorten all URLs in this post using v.gd so they would fit in the character limit. v.gd will show you the link before you go to it, but if you want to be doubly sure you can use CheckShortURL

By not getting vaccinated, you not only risk your own life & health, but of everyone around you including your family, friends, kids, coworkers or anyone else you come in close contact but especially children who can't get the vaccine yet And people with immunocompromised immune systems that can't get vaccinated. You could have COVID and not even know it because you could be an asymptomatic carrier. According to the CDC, the commonality of being an asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic carrier of COVID that could be spread to other people concluded:


Source

You're putting a lot of people, yourself included at risk by not getting vaccinated. Just think of all the pain and suffering you ended up getting COVID and the medical bills (whether you have insurance or not). Think what it will do those people who love you who wish they could have done more to help you get vaccinated and the immense guilt they'll feel.

I've had the Medirna vaccine personally & everyone else I know has had it and we're all fine and I can attest I've had no adverse side effects and only a slight craving to eat brains.

I doubt you'll even bother reading any of that, but there they are in plain English. The science has been completely proven and is ironclad. You have nothing to be concerned about by getting the COVID-19 vaccine.

You've already been vaccinated your whole life. What's different this time?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

When you were first born your parents had you immediately innoculated against these common diseases:

  • Hepatitis B (2nd dose)
  • Diphtheria, tetanus, and whooping cough (pertussis) (DTaP)
  • Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
  • Polio (IPV)
  • Pneumococcal (PCV)
  • Rotavirus (RV)
Then when you went to public school you were required to get vaccines for the following diseases:

  • Diphtheria/tetanus/pertussis.
  • Polio.
  • Measles/mumps/rubella.
  • Hepatitis A and B and.
    Varicella.
  • After a student turns 11, they are required to be vaccinated against meningococcal meningitis.
You have to get vaccines when traveling overseas to some foreign countries.

More than likely these vaccines saved your life & you never even realized it. You were lucky not to live through the plague, the times of cholera where there were thousands of people lying dead in the streets & never have had dysentery, or the Spanish flu (which the COVID death rate has already surpassed) and especially polio and simply take it for granted you won't get these diseases when it reality it was government policies made before you were even born to keep you safe & alive so you can live your life in full and in safety from those common diseases. Currently, at the time of this writing there are 787,000 people who have died in the US. That's more deaths that the Spanish flu, the Vietnam War and even the Civil War which saw 750,000 dead.

It's understandable to be concerned about the unknown. But this virus was extensively tested by the FDA for over a year. You might argue it was rushed a little, but in a situation where there's a global pandemic, we needed this IMMEDIATELY. There will be further tests over the years, and I'm sure they will come back as having no long term side effects. Currently any and all adverse effects and side effects are being monitored by the The Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which is overseen by the FDA, CDC, WHO & Dept. of Veterans Affairs. So far, they're only seeing they have come to discover side effects are quite rare, happening in less than 1 in 200,000 vaccinated individuals. And these are just allergic reactions, which can be easily treated.

It's okay to ask questions, but when you go around spreading unfounded conspiracy theories that were dreamed up as mis/disinformation, asking for COVID cards, or otherwise just being an anti-vax pest, I will have something to say about it.

'I don't have COVID': Doctor says some COVID patients deny virus, decry vaccines from their deathbed (USA Today)

More than 99% of recent COVID deaths in US involve unvaccinated people, a 'sad and tragic' situation


Covid Hospitalizations by Vaccine Status Bar Graph​

How do dispute those statistics and still think it's a good idea not to get vaccinated?
what about the government not making exceptions for those with natural immunity, sherlock?
 
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I think you just kind of f*cked up your own argument, bro. First of all, that article is from 2019. Second, every single thing you listed has an EXTREMELY RARE CHANCE OF HAPPENING, as emphasized by how many times the CDC all these side effects are RARE. So, you're worried about something that has less than a 0.0000xxxx% chance of happening to you? Maybe instead of worrying about something that has less than 0.00000 whatever percent chance of harming you, you should be more concerned about the TOP causes of deaths of Americans.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death
  • Heart disease: 659,041
  • Cancer: 599,601
  • Accidents (unintentional injuries): 173,040
  • Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 156,979
  • Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,005
  • Alzheimer’s disease: 121,499
  • Diabetes: 87,647
  • Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 51,565
  • Influenza and pneumonia: 49,783
  • Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,511
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Shameful that you make a post and have ZERO clue what you are talking about...

The CDC on Dec. 3 released the new data which show a total of 927,740 reports of adverse events following Covid vaccines were submitted between Dec. 14, 2020, and Nov. 26, 2021.

  • Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare
  • Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 Vaccination is rare.
  • CDC and FDA are monitoring reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells...
  • Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare.
  • Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare.
 
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what about the government not making exceptions for those with natural immunity, sherlock?
How the hell do you tell who has "natural" immunity? First of all, I've never even HEARD of ANYONE who has any kind of "natural immunity" to COVID and I doubt there is such a thing. If you have a source for this, please feel free to share. Second, how could you test for people who have "natural immunity"? What's the point? Just get the f*cking vaccine and don't worry about your "natural immunity". That sounds like a lot of horse sh!t to me.
 
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someone sent me this when I asked in another thread. I don't have to do it yet tho so idk if it will work for you
If you're trying to get around this big "scary tyrannical government" vaccine with a bogus religious exemption certificate, you are truly a shameless person. That's like all those people who tried to get out of the Vietnam War by claiming they had all these medical ailments, like one *ahem* person who had these horrible "bone spurs" I heard about, when in reality they're just too chicken sh!t to fight or get a little needle in the arm. Especially hilarious coming from guys who stick handfuls of syringes of compounds they have no idea where they're sourced from, if someone made them in their bathtub, or kitchen sink or on a stove top with no sterile procedures or anything. Now you're worried about a completely FREE approved vaccine that was made by a legit pharmaceutical company in sterile laboratories under the most stringent of conditions. That has a HIGH potential to save not only your life, but prevent others around you from getting sick. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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nazi germany had a health passport they called 'DER AHNENPASS' very much like today's covid passport.
Jumping into Godwin's Law a little early, aren't we?

Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies, is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1. In less mathematical terms, the longer the discussion, the more likely a Nazi comparison becomes, and with long enough discussions, it is a certainty.
Second, the "Ahnenpass" had absolutely nothing to do with a person's health. It was a document classifying people by race as ubermensch "pure Aryan" or "undermensch" "races the Nazi's considered 'worthless' and subject to discrimination and eventually death in the gas chamber.

You should really check your history before making such absurd claims.

The Ahnenpaß (literally, "ancestor pass") documented the Aryan lineage of people "of German blood" in Nazi Germany. It was one of the forms of the Aryan certificate (Ariernachweis) and issued by the "Reich Association of Marriage Registrars in Germany" (Reichsverband der Standesbeamten in Deutschland e. V.).

The term Aryan in this context was used in a sense widely accepted in the "race science" of the time, which considered that there was a Caucasian race which was sub-divided into Semitic, Hamitic, and Aryan (Japhetic) subraces, the latter corresponding to the Indo-European language family. The Nazi ideology limited the category Aryan to certain subgroups, while excluding Slavs as non-Aryan. The actual primary objective was to create extensive profiling based on racial data.
 
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Thanks for posting this. I always recommend people actually take the time to write a CUSTOMIZED letter to their Congressional representatives, rather than a boilerplate fill out your name and click to submit the form. That's just slacktivism. All the rep is going to do is see that same boilerplate response a hundred times and ignore it.

Visit https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials and find out how to directly call or write your local/city/county/state/federal officials and contact them directly telling them personally, even if it's a very short letter, is much more effective than this point and click email submissions. Check out this letter I helped my friend in Texas right about them trying to ban Delta 8 and see how much more information it has and it doesn't have that boilerplate same ol' same ol' email campaign feeling to it.
this is not a vaccine anything like those you state and in fact is STILL NOT the real approved drug "Comernity" or what ever. literally the entire world is refuting everything u posted and the narrative is falling apart. LOL you probably think that ivermectin is a horse drug too right?
 
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Thanks for posting this. I always recommend people actually take the time to write a CUSTOMIZED letter to their Congressional representatives, rather than a boilerplate fill out your name and click to submit the form. That's just slacktivism. All the rep is going to do is see that same boilerplate response a hundred times and ignore it.

Visit https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials and find out how to directly call or write your local/city/county/state/federal officials and contact them directly telling them personally, even if it's a very short letter, is much more effective than this point and click email submissions. Check out this letter I helped my friend in Texas right about them trying to ban Delta 8 and see how much more information it has and it doesn't have that boilerplate same ol' same ol' email campaign feeling to it.

And I apologize for your thread getting dereailed by anti-vaxxers below, but I'm going to have to derail it some more. :cautious:



LOL, dude, here we go again with the COVID Anti-Vaxxers with their same arguments over and over that have no basis in reality.


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By not getting vaccinated, you not only risk your own life & health, but of everyone around you including your family, friends, kids, coworkers or anyone else you come in close contact but especially children who can't get the vaccine yet And people with immunocompromised immune systems that can't get vaccinated. You could have COVID and not even know it because you could be an asymptomatic carrier. According to the CDC, the commonality of being an asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic carrier of COVID that could be spread to other people concluded:


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You're putting a lot of people, yourself included at risk by not getting vaccinated. Just think of all the pain and suffering you ended up getting COVID and the medical bills (whether you have insurance or not). Think what it will do those people who love you who wish they could have done more to help you get vaccinated and the immense guilt they'll feel.

I've had the Medirna vaccine personally & everyone else I know has had it and we're all fine and I can attest I've had no adverse side effects and only a slight craving to eat brains.

I doubt you'll even bother reading any of that, but there they are in plain English. The science has been completely proven and is ironclad. You have nothing to be concerned about by getting the COVID-19 vaccine.

You've already been vaccinated your whole life. What's different this time?
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When you were first born your parents had you immediately innoculated against these common diseases:

  • Hepatitis B (2nd dose)
  • Diphtheria, tetanus, and whooping cough (pertussis) (DTaP)
  • Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
  • Polio (IPV)
  • Pneumococcal (PCV)
  • Rotavirus (RV)
Then when you went to public school you were required to get vaccines for the following diseases:

  • Diphtheria/tetanus/pertussis.
  • Polio.
  • Measles/mumps/rubella.
  • Hepatitis A and B and.
    Varicella.
  • After a student turns 11, they are required to be vaccinated against meningococcal meningitis.
You have to get vaccines when traveling overseas to some foreign countries.

More than likely these vaccines saved your life & you never even realized it. You were lucky not to live through the plague, the times of cholera where there were thousands of people lying dead in the streets & never have had dysentery, or the Spanish flu (which the COVID death rate has already surpassed) and especially polio and simply take it for granted you won't get these diseases when it reality it was government policies made before you were even born to keep you safe & alive so you can live your life in full and in safety from those common diseases. Currently, at the time of this writing there are 787,000 people who have died in the US. That's more deaths that the Spanish flu, the Vietnam War and even the Civil War which saw 750,000 dead.

It's understandable to be concerned about the unknown. But this virus was extensively tested by the FDA for over a year. You might argue it was rushed a little, but in a situation where there's a global pandemic, we needed this IMMEDIATELY. There will be further tests over the years, and I'm sure they will come back as having no long term side effects. Currently any and all adverse effects and side effects are being monitored by the The Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which is overseen by the FDA, CDC, WHO & Dept. of Veterans Affairs. So far, they're only seeing they have come to discover side effects are quite rare, happening in less than 1 in 200,000 vaccinated individuals. And these are just allergic reactions, which can be easily treated.

It's okay to ask questions, but when you go around spreading unfounded conspiracy theories that were dreamed up as mis/disinformation, asking for COVID cards, or otherwise just being an anti-vax pest, I will have something to say about it.

'I don't have COVID': Doctor says some COVID patients deny virus, decry vaccines from their deathbed (USA Today)

More than 99% of recent COVID deaths in US involve unvaccinated people, a 'sad and tragic' situation


Covid Hospitalizations by Vaccine Status Bar Graph​

How do dispute those statistics and still think it's a good idea not to get vaccinated?
Woah woah wait, why should I have to get vaccinated if your “vaccine” protects against the virus? Then you shouldn’t be able to catch it right? Isn’t that the whole point of the vaccine? Oh ya that’s right, cause it doesn’t even f$cking properly work. And how many of those hospitalizations are people who are obese? Stuffing there face with McDonald’s telling me to be a good person and get the vaccine, Smfh, get the hell outta here man. Listen I’m not claiming “ohh the vaccine has microchips in it blah blah blah” but why the hell should I be forced to put a drug in body?
 
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How the hell do you tell who has "natural" immunity? First of all, I've never even HEARD of ANYONE who has any kind of "natural immunity" to COVID and I doubt there is such a thing. If you have a source for this, please feel free to share. Second, how could you test for people who have "natural immunity"? What's the point? Just get the f*cking vaccine and don't worry about your "natural immunity". That sounds like a lot of horse sh!t to me.
look here PAL natural immunity is what people like me have after we have recovered from covid-got it, sherlock?
 
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look here PAL natural immunity is what people like me have after we have recovered from covid-got it, sherlock?
Yup, I had Covid and was nothing more than the common cold for me, but I’m sure that’s not because I exercise, eat healthy, non-smoker,etc.
 
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If you're trying to get around this big "scary tyrannical government" vaccine with a bogus religious exemption certificate, you are truly a shameless person. That's like all those people who tried to get out of the Vietnam War by claiming they had all these medical ailments, like one *ahem* person who had these horrible "bone spurs" I heard about, when in reality they're just too chicken sh!t to fight or get a little needle in the arm. Especially hilarious coming from guys who stick handfuls of syringes of compounds they have no idea where they're sourced from, if someone made them in their bathtub, or kitchen sink or on a stove top with no sterile procedures or anything. Now you're worried about a completely FREE approved vaccine that was made by a legit pharmaceutical company in sterile laboratories under the most stringent of conditions. That has a HIGH potential to save not only your life, but prevent others around you from getting sick. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
again its NOT approved. sit down and stfu
 
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Oh, and before I go, I'll quote you a little post I wrote up entitled "Why I don't argue with Anti-Vaxxers". This is because their arguments are ALWAYS the same line of reasoning, with absolutely no sources or proof to back anything they say up, they just deflect the argument back onto the person making the claim "burden of proof logical fallacy", insulting the person for shaking their total cognitive dissonance on the subject, they get so triggered someone has questioned their hivemind beliefs they react in completely irrational ways. I'm sure one or more of these people will report me or these posts and have me banned by morning for questioning their dearly held beliefs.

In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the perception of contradictory information. Relevant items of information include a person's actions, feelings, ideas, beliefs, values, and things in the environment. Cognitive dissonance is typically experienced as psychological stress when persons participate in an action that goes against one or more of those things.[1] According to this theory, when two actions or ideas are not psychologically consistent with each other, people do all in their power to change them until they become consistent. The discomfort is triggered by the person's belief clashing with new information perceived, wherein the individual tries to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.
Not to mention, their complete and utter delusional beliefs.

de·lu·sion·al
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characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
"hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia"
based on or having faulty judgment; mistaken.
"their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers"

  1. They never cite any sources. They post outrageous claims that people are dying of the vaccine, or it's dangerous or deadly or some other conspiracy theory they heard, but when asked for proof of this or where they heard it they RARELY if ever provide any sources.
  2. They deflect your questions with other irrational arguments or insults. Because they have no scientific knowledge whatsoever, they simply hurl insults at people because they've had their worldview hivemind thinking challenged. They don't bother to even TRY to look up any links through Google or any other search engine to legit sites that prove what they're saying is true. These people don't even understand the scientific method that they should have learned in grade school.
  3. They make completely incoherent, incomprehensible arguments. They start speculating about the how they believe, what they believe and they don't need any evidence for that (Hint: that's not how science works). Their arguments include things about the MSM, Bill Gates, Dr. Fauci, nonsensical religious arguments that have nothing to do with being discussed and are just totally off the wall with insanity. There is no way to have a coherent or cognizant argument or debate with people like this. It's a waste of time.
  4. They claim to be a disenfranchised minority group that are all martyrs of a "tyrannical government" and act like they are a this is some kind of civil rights issue directly targeting them. This is a disgusting argument to follow. Using this "My Body My Choice" argument is absurd. You're not Martin Luther King or Malcom X. You're an idiot who doesn't understand basic high school 101 science enough to understand vaccines save lives.
  5. They incessantly use logical fallacies and are confined to their own personal cognitive biases so much they get angry and can't put together a coherent argument.
  6. They claim people are dying of the vaccine in vast numbers. The truth?
Between December 2020 and July 19th, 2021, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018% of doses) among people who got a vaccine, but this does not mean the vaccine caused these deaths. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blood clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blood clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented.

After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths. Nonetheless, the CDC and FDA will continue to investigate every single report of death (and other adverse events) reported to VAERS.
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And of course we know what the response will be. These are just "paid shills" from the pharmaceutical companies. And there's this huge this conspiracy of people who are promoting the vaccine and getting paid under the table to promote it. Hell, I've even been accused of being a paid shill. Hell, I wish Pfizer would pay me to debunk all these idiotic arguments. Let's think about this supposed "conspiracy" a little bit, shall we? How many hundreds of thousands of people that worked on the vaccine had to be continuously be "paid off" by "big pharma". The conspiracy would then have to extend beyond that into the MILLIONs of "paid shills" who sit around at their computers debunking this nonsense. All of that money would exceed the US GDP 10 times over. And, if this really was some kind of grand conspiracy, not a single person with any moral conviction would come forward and spill the beans? GIVE ME A BREAK. This is the kind of sh!t I expect from people who listen to Alex Jones and don't believe in the Kennedy Assassinations, the RFK assassination, that the moon landing was fake, the Loch Ness monster is real, Bigfoot is real, FEMA camps, and the whole nine yards of this BS and all the other GARBAGE that has been debunked a hundred times overs. But, oh yeah, this vaccine. It's poison. It cooks your mind... or wait, what was your argument exactly? I can tell you I've had the vaccine and I'm still breaking all the laws in the book, just like the rest of you. It doesn't make you some kind of placid sheep who votes Democrat or WHATEVER your demented mind thinks it's doing to you.

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Oh, and before I go, I'll quote you a little post I wrote up entitled "Why I don't argue with Anti-Vaxxers". This is because their arguments are ALWAYS the same line of reasoning, with absolutely no sources or proof to back anything they say up, they just deflect the argument back onto the person making the claim "burden of proof logical fallacy", insulting the person for shaking their total cognitive dissonance on the subject, they get so triggered someone has questioned their hivemind beliefs they react in completely irrational ways. I'm sure one or more of these people will report me or these posts and have me banned by morning for questioning their dearly held beliefs.



Not to mention, their complete and utter delusional beliefs.

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characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
"hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia"
based on or having faulty judgment; mistaken.
"their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers"

  1. They never cite any sources. They post outrageous claims that people are dying of the vaccine, or it's dangerous or deadly or some other conspiracy theory they heard, but when asked for proof of this or where they heard it they RARELY if ever provide any sources.
  2. They deflect your questions with other irrational arguments or insults. Because they have no scientific knowledge whatsoever, they simply hurl insults at people because they've had their worldview hivemind thinking challenged. They don't bother to even TRY to look up any links through Google or any other search engine to legit sites that prove what they're saying is true. These people don't even understand the scientific method that they should have learned in grade school.
  3. They make completely incoherent, incomprehensible arguments. They start speculating about the how they believe, what they believe and they don't need any evidence for that (Hint: that's not how science works). Their arguments include things about the MSM, Bill Gates, Dr. Fauci, nonsensical religious arguments that have nothing to do with being discussed and are just totally off the wall with insanity. There is no way to have a coherent or cognizant argument or debate with people like this. It's a waste of time.
  4. They claim to be a disenfranchised minority group that are all martyrs of a "tyrannical government" and act like they are a this is some kind of civil rights issue directly targeting them. This is a disgusting argument to follow. Using this "My Body My Choice" argument is absurd. You're not Martin Luther King or Malcom X. You're an idiot who doesn't understand basic high school 101 science enough to understand vaccines save lives.
  5. They incessantly use logical fallacies and are confined to their own personal cognitive biases so much they get angry and can't put together a coherent argument.
  6. They claim people are dying of the vaccine in vast numbers. The truth?
Source

And of course we know what the response will be. These are just "paid shills" from the pharmaceutical companies. And there's this huge this conspiracy of people who are promoting the vaccine and getting paid under the table to promote it. Hell, I've even been accused of being a paid shill. Hell, I wish Pfizer would pay me to debunk all these idiotic arguments. Let's think about this supposed "conspiracy" a little bit, shall we? How many hundreds of thousands of people that worked on the vaccine had to be continuously be "paid off" by "big pharma". The conspiracy would then have to extend beyond that into the MILLIONs of "paid shills" who sit around at their computers debunking this nonsense. All of that money would exceed the US GDP 10 times over. And, if this really was some kind of grand conspiracy, not a single person with any moral conviction would come forward and spill the beans? GIVE ME A BREAK. This is the kind of sh!t I expect from people who listen to Alex Jones and don't believe in the Kennedy Assassinations, the RFK assassination, that the moon landing was fake, the Loch Ness monster is real, Bigfoot is real, FEMA camps, and the whole nine yards of this BS and all the other GARBAGE that has been debunked a hundred times overs. But, oh yeah, this vaccine. It's poison. It cooks your mind... or wait, what was your argument exactly? I can tell you I've had the vaccine and I'm still breaking all the laws in the book, just like the rest of you. It doesn't make you some kind of placid sheep who votes Democrat or WHATEVER your demented mind thinks it's doing to you.

GET REAL
Just like how I can’t argue with liberals.
 
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Yup, I had Covid and was nothing more than the common cold for me, but I’m sure that’s not because I exercise, eat healthy, non-smoker,etc.
me too-i've had colds that were way worse than covid was...
 
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Just like how I can’t argue with liberals.
Yet another example of my "Why I don't argue with anti-vaxxers". They have absolutely no argument to back up a SINGLE one of their claims. It's a complete waste of time replying to posts like these.
 
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look here PAL natural immunity is what people like me have after we have recovered from covid-got it, sherlock?
That's not how it works, big guy. You aren't IMMUNE from COVID after you get COVID. You can get it multiple times. Can you PLEASE do some research before you keep spewing this complete nonsense?
 
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umm... what's not approved??? The vaccine? Dude, you do a simple Google search and find that is a totally bogus argument. Here we go. Just read my "Why I don't argue with Anti-Vaxxers" post above. FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine. I'm not going to sit here and do your homework for you bro.
hey fuktard, here is the first paragraph:
Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.

i bolded and underlined the name of the VAX that is not yet available to the public FFS. you got an emergency use authorized trial batch of god knows what.. and further demonstrating your ineptness... there are HOW MANY SHOTS available? and NONE are approved

ONLY Comernity is approved
 
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Yet another example of my "Why I don't argue with anti-vaxxers". They have absolutely no argument to back up a SINGLE one of their claims. It's a complete waste of time replying to posts like these.
then go away...see ya!
 
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Yet another example of my "Why I don't argue with anti-vaxxers". They have absolutely no argument to back up a SINGLE one of their claims. It's a complete waste of time replying to posts like these.
You wanna be vaccinated, cool man I respect it. Guess what, I don’t want to be. Where is the mutual respect? Even if the chance of me getting a adverse reaction from the vaccine is rare why should I have to take the chance? Especially considering I’ve already had the virus. Oh ya, cause Covid Delta Variant 967 will kill me right?
 

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