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Favorite Stimulants (Stim Junkies only) caffeine,amphetamine,ephedrine

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I used to LOVE Adderall back in HS. One week I railed 50-75mg every morning in the bathroom... I also took 200mg caffeine, 2 tsp of baking soda (makes it stronger and last longer), and 1g chelated Mg (blocks tolerance to amphetamines). After that I lost all interest in it.

1) Amphetamines
2) Geranamine

I've recently started taking Dren (Drenbuterol, that's not a typo) with 30mg geranamine and I felt like I dosed amphetamine. I was talkative with strangers, which only amphetamine has done for me in the past, and it felt so awesome to walk around after sitting. A nearly 3 hour class few by. Also, smoking cigarettes is amazing, just like how they were on Adderall.
 
that 5htp blast product looks cool
i just recently got into 5htp and it works pretty well when i take it at night
i dont crash from caffeine and i also feel less wired and stressed when its time to come down from the caffeine.
ive been stacking these nootropics: tyrosine, caffeine, 5htp, phenibut,
works pretty good so far
 
Frequency said:
Lol why? Its managed to remain on topic
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exactly....i think it is actually pretty good. MAybe we can get some one to post all the rec doses and go from there now. I would like to know if i ever get a hold of some of these things what to keep it around.
 
Stim-wise I prefer caffeine.

Caffeine is safe enough and also 'stable' enough to the point where I can, for the most part, anticipate and expect what to feel when I take the doses.

Herbal stims don't work for me anymore. I find that yohimbe, ephedrine, etc go way beyond what I need and usually I encounter sides with them.

I have not tried clen,etc but I'm sure those are not up my ally either.

The only effect I have from high caffeine intake is peeing frequently and if the dose is high enough very slight jitters, but rarely. It is mild enough to my liking.
 
timmay8989 said:
Caffeine solo doesnt do anything for me
2 Bronkaid(Ephedrine HCL) i get a little energy
RPM, i feel completely energized, IMO the blend in RPM is the best
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Bronkaid is not Ephedrine HCl, it's actually Ephedrine SO4 (sulfate version). You don't get as much ephedrine mg for mg, so you might want to bump up to three Bronkaid or switch over to an HCl version like Vasopro or Primatene (see conversation below from: Invalid Link Removed.

I love ephedrine b/c it's cheap and effective when combined with caffeine. My favorite supp so far has to be the geranium based prouducts though. I also really liked the bottle of Redline that YeahRight gave me, but many seem to build a tolerance to it quickly.


stxnas said:
Primatene is usually a little cheaper than Bronkaid, but it's only 12.5 mg Eph. HCL per pill. Bronkaid is 25mg Eph. Sulfate per pill. The only difference in the HCL vs the sulfate is the shelf life. HCL is something like 48-54 months to where the sulfate is only 36 months. I would have to say that the Bronkaid (made by Bayer) is the best deal for your asthma needs ;)
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thesinner said:
You're missing another important difference, that being you get less alkaloid per mg when you change the salts from chloride to sulfate.

25mg Ephedrine SO4 is about 96 micromoles
12.5mg Ephedrine HCl is about 63 micromoles

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stxnas said:
Damn you and your chemical engineering! LOL...
Yeah, but they both come in packs of 24 (not sure if the primatene tabs are easily split in half though as a one and a half pills would be the equivalent μmoles to one bronkaid).

$5.00 for 24 tabs of HCL ~ 1510 micromoles total ~300 μmole/$
$6.20 for 24 tabs of SO4 ~ 2300 micromoles total~370 μmole/$

So yeah, you do only get about 75% of the alkaloids per mg, but the Bronkaid's higher doesage makes up for it...
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i didnt know that, ive heard alot of people say that its the HCL version, but given my feelings off it your statement makes alot of sense. ill look into that when it comes time to cut.
 
timmay8989 said:
i didnt know that, ive heard alot of people say that its the HCL version, but given my feelings off it your statement makes alot of sense. ill look into that when it comes time to cut.
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Active Ingredients (in each caplet):
Ephedrine sulfate 25 mg. Bronchodilator
Guaifenesin 400 mg. Expectorant
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25mg Bronkaid ~ 16.75mg Vasopro/Primatene
50mg Bronkaid ~ 33.5mg Vasopro/Primatene
75mg Bronkaid ~ 50mg Vasopro/Primatene

Bronkaid comes in 25mg tabs, Primatene is 12.5mg caps, and the last I checked Vasopro was 25mg gel caps.
 
yeah started my diet 2 weeks ago, eating 5 small meals and trying to run everyday...i jus bought some lipodrene but i read in the back that has ephedra extract from the leaves and not the alkaloids. I know thats its not as strong as the alkaloids, but how much of a difference is it?
 
Luda said:
yeah started my diet 2 weeks ago, eating 5 small meals and trying to run everyday...i jus bought some lipodrene but i read in the back that has ephedra extract from the leaves and not the alkaloids. I know thats its not as strong as the alkaloids, but how much of a difference is it?
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the new lipodrene is garbage... it only contains like 1mg of ephedrine and the rest is the other useless alkaloids like psuedoephedrine
 
I've used Amp, StimX, Lipo 6, redline, the old ECA stack, the NYC stack, clen, and adderall XR. I would have to say it's a tie between NYC and adderall XR to be my favorite.
 
The only stims that have ever given me any sort of rush have had naringin in them. The old BetaLean by EAS and RPM have both treated me quite well. Sulbutiamine, although not technically a stim, gives me clean focused energy for hours. ALCAR is like a weaker version of sulbutiamine for me, but it is also cheaper.
 
Norephedrine is a banned substance just incase you guys try to look for it. It stopped being produced years ago. You can all thank the FDA. What was so weird about the situation it was less hard on the body central system, saved more muscle mass, and I seemed to have lost more weight w/ NYC then ephedrine did for me.
 
dethklok said:
For a cut Clen 2 weeks, ECA 2 weeks, repeat.

However, if you don't know a thing about diet and training you won't get the most out of this, it won't last, and chances are you'll just get strung out.
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why ECA and CLEn rotate?
ephedrine and clen both downregulate the beta receptors, and
using ECA when taking off from clen would just be counter intuitive

just take ketotifen to keep the beta receptors upregulated.
 
CHAPS said:
Now try 100mcg, lol. T3 is awesome for fatloss.
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but then thyroids catabolize a crapload of muscle as well

(increases both fat and protein metabolism)

unless you stack with some sorta PH, or AAS
im surprised if anyone can keep from losing muscle mass.
 
You know you are addicted to stimulants if ...

* You sleep with your eyes open.
* You have to watch videos in fast-forward.
* The only time you're standing still is during an earthquake.
* You can take a picture of yourself from ten feet away without using the timer.
* You've worn out your third pair of tennis shoes this week.
* Your eyes stay open when you sneeze.
* You chew on other people's fingernails.
* The nurse needs a scientific calculator to take your pulse.
* You're so jittery that people use your hands
* to blend their margaritas.
* You can type sixty words per minute with your feet.
* You can jump-start your car without cables.
* You don't sweat, you percolate.
* You walk twenty miles on your treadmill before you realize
it's not plugged in.
* You forget to unwrap candy bars before eating them.
* People get dizzy just watching you.
* You channel surf faster without a remote.
* You can outlast the Energizer bunny.
* You short out motion detectors.
* You don't even wait for the water to boil anymore.
* Your nervous twitch registers on the Richter scale.
* You help your dog chase its tail.
* You soak your dentures in coffee overnight.
* Your first-aid kit contains clen with an I.V. hookup.
* You ski uphill.
* You get a speeding ticket even when you're parked.
* You answer the door before people knock.
* You haven't blinked since the last lunar eclipse.
 
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