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Favorite Non-Stim PWO?

Wimsicle

Wimsicle

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Hey ya'll!

A buddy of mine is stim sensitive and just wants to live without the reliance on stims. He, and myself, are wondering what people's favorite non-stim workout for Endurance is.

It looks like most non-stim are pretty expensive per serving, but price isnt the main concern.

Things I know that work so far:
Quake 10.0 non-stim
PES High Volume
C&P Permaswole
OL Conquer Unleashed non-stim
Redcon Big Noise

Feel free to say any other ones you have had great success with! And a nice price point even better :)

Thanks!
 
PES High Volume is a great one. I also use Noxygen and Vasomax. I will typically stack Noxygen with a stimmed pre, but Vasomax is a great standalone non-stim product. The mental clarity and focus is insane considering its non-stim
 
iForce Hemavo2 and Carbon Prep while it's still available (does contain trace amounts of caffeine)
 
Have not tried Quake yet, however for endurance it looks great.

VasoMax for pump and focus. I usually mix VasoMax with Powermax XT (weight training) or Xtend Perform (cardio). That covers Pump, Focus, Recovery, Hydration, Strength, etc.
 
Carbon Prep is great, and really, really cheap. I grabbed a couple. Quake is great too.
 
lots of salt and lots of water.....(srs lol). I do like PES High volume the most, and add a couple shakes of salt in and your good to go. can't even taste the salt IMO. I usually do this combo when I'm fasted in the early am and I still get a pretty good pump!
 
I'd vote for high volume and VasoMax. VasoMax also stacks well with PowerMax XT. Great endurance and pumps
 
Wimsicle said:
Hey ya'll!

A buddy of mine is stim sensitive and just wants to live without the reliance on stims. He, and myself, are wondering what people's favorite non-stim workout for Endurance is.

It looks like most non-stim are pretty expensive per serving, but price isnt the main concern.

Things I know that work so far:
Quake 10.0 non-stim
PES High Volume
C&P Permaswole
OL Conquer Unleashed non-stim
Redcon Big Noise

Feel free to say any other ones you have had great success with! And a nice price point even better :)

Thanks!
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Layne Norton Carbon Prep (better hurry...)
 
PES High Volume gets my vote. I've used it multiple times and it's really an awesome non stim pre that's hard to beat.
 
Hemavol and Hemavo2 Max by Iforce Nutrition
 
My two favorite are VasoMax and High Volume. In my opinion, nothing touches High Volume. It takes a while, but the pumps from VasoMax are great as well, they are just different from HV, it is hard to explain. I do like some of the nootropics in VasoMax, they help on those non stim days.
 
VasoMax and High Volume are the two I've used and enjoy (would use/buy again). As mentioned, the focus ingredients in VasoMax are a nice bonus. Since OP seemed to mention wanting to not be reliant on stims, I think that the added focus/noots could help (as AntM said) with some "mental energy and focus" without stimulants. You can't really go wrong with VasoMax or HV IMO.
 
From your list quake and high volume are both great.

Another, less pump focused is Sns focus xt caffiene free. If you wanted everything but stims you could stack it with either some bulk pump stuff like citrulline, agmatine, or gms or just go with a pump only pre like hv
 
Vitality by OL
Was on sale for 5$! Picked up 4. Beta alanine, creapure, phosphatadylserine. Simple but great for those sensitive to stims, like myself.
 
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