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Fat Sacks and Natty Stacks

bmftisftw said:
why dont you dead from the ground? jw
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Ha sometimes I do sometimes I don't. Not consistent in anyway with DL's. Most of the time my first couple sets I start from the ground and then my last few ill go from the rack.

jimbuick said:
It looks like your trying to do SLDL bro.

@SS should go back then down, slower and more controlled on the way down.

What kind of foot placement do you have?

Also of you make a point of sticking your chest out and pinching your shoulder blades (much like a bench press) it will help insure you keep that arch in your lower back.

This is just my experience with some of the things that help. Frank will probably give you even better advice lol.
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Thank you man I appreciate the comment. It's like I can't drop my ass for some reason?? My hips just refuse to set back. It's like I can't physically do a regular DL!

bmftisftw said:
Ok, here is how I was taught, Im sure AB can chime in to, cause i mean its not like he is deading like 1000 lbs for no reason.

Feet shoulder width, bar about an inch away from my shins

Chest up, looking at an angle downwards to keep head inline with spine.

lock your arms out but dont jerk the bar, keep your back straight, and grip it tight

pull up and squeeze your butt, squeezing your butt creates that hip drive. ALSO rodja can help in here too!

check these videos out mane

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and this one

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Thanks man. I've actually watched those vids before. I know what to do I just can't make my back any straighter or make my hips sink any lower.
 
Brent hit the topic well. There's technique... Don't just muscle it. Drive off heels and **** the bar an inch away. Keep it touching shins at all time. U should bleed
 
^^ Rips way is pretty solid. I set up very similar.

Again, you need to start from the ground, so you can set up properly. You are basically SLDL'ng the weight as said above. If you are going to touch and go, like in the first video you want to drop your hips down/bend at the knees slightly so you are not stiff legging it. This will also bring your chest up.

You should try and stop, and reset each rep(especially now while you are working out form issues) You can see how his knees are slightly bent(not over hanging the bar), chest up, head down. Think of your hips as a hinge and you are pulling backwards.
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Another thing is "preloading" the bar. You want to pull the slack out of it before you initiate the pull.

Danb2285 said:
Thanks man. I've actually watched those vids before. I know what to do I just can't make my back any straighter or make my hips sink any lower.
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You can make your hips sink lower, you just need to bend at the knees. Your one pull from the floor wasn't awful, your hips came up a bit fast, but over all not terrible. It is just after the initial pull you started to SLDL. You need to drop your hips/bend your knees on the way down.
 
Danb2285 said:
Ha sometimes I do sometimes I don't. Not consistent in anyway with DL's. Most of the time my first couple sets I start from the ground and then my last few ill go from the rack.



Thank you man I appreciate the comment. It's like I can't drop my ass for some reason?? My hips just refuse to set back. It's like I can't physically do a regular DL!



Thanks man. I've actually watched those vids before. I know what to do I just can't make my back any straighter or make my hips sink any lower.
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I always think the same thing, it sucks being really tall while doing the dead lift, sometimes its not always about how far you bring your butt down but more so the hip drive and keeping your back straight. With the butt thing, Like i said, squeeze your ass hard and thrust your hips forward like youre banging your wife. Seriously helps ALOT
 
Frank Reynolds said:
^^ Rips way is pretty solid. I set up very similar.

Again, you need to start from the ground, so you can set up properly. You are basically SLDL'ng the weight as said above. If you are going to touch and go, like in the first video you want to drop your hips down/bend at the knees slightly so you are not stiff legging it. This will also bring your chest up.

You should try and stop, and reset each rep(especially now while you are working out form issues) You can see how his knees are slightly bent(not over hanging the bar), chest up, head down. Think of your hips as a hinge and you are pulling backwards.
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Another thing is "preloading" the bar. You want to pull the slack out of it before you initiate the pull.
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piggy backing off of this... Imagine you are falling backwards.. you should be leaning back when pulling. of course youre not going to fall backwards because youre pulling a heavy weight but with good form when you are "falling backwards" it will help you lockout better if applying all these techniques
 
Thanks bros I appreciate is so much! Reps to you guys when I get to the computer again. Like I said I'm so frustrated with it. Believe it or not I've been watching YouTube videos and DLing 135 for the last 4-5 weeks trying to get my form down. (Obviously it didnt help a whole lot) I've been working in alot of lower back stuff trying to build it up. I know that will help. I just want to DL good lol
 
Good mornings helped me a lot!
 
Dan - hey bud sorry it took so long just got done with homework and packing for work...

The rest of the guys here pretty much hit it on the head.

Forearms - unless you're pulling some insane weight your forearms will grow and adapt to the work load, that's the beauty of the body. For example if your chest is stronger than your shoulders, eventually your shoulders will hopefully catch up. To help that happen quicker you would do some shoulder assistance work. The same being for your forearms.

As for me, I try to not use straps unless I absolutely must and my grip is better for it. I however cut straps out of dead lifts completely and only use them when doing pull ups, if I must.

The videos - I agree with the other dudes here also, cut the bounce you're going to hurt yourself. Its called a dead lift because you're lifting "dead" weight off the floor.

Be sure to tighten your core and stay "tight" that is the best way I have learned to think about it.

I don't pretend to know everything these are just things I've learned through experience and reading. Basically what works for me lol.

- Valdez
 
Mack411 said:
Good mornings helped me a lot!
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Def. been working those in
 
Valdez said:
Dan - hey bud sorry it took so long just got done with homework and packing for work...

The rest of the guys here pretty much hit it on the head.

Forearms - unless you're pulling some insane weight your forearms will grow and adapt to the work load, that's the beauty of the body. For example if your chest is stronger than your shoulders, eventually your shoulders will hopefully catch up. To help that happen quicker you would do some shoulder assistance work. The same being for your forearms.

As for me, I try to not use straps unless I absolutely must and my grip is better for it. I however cut straps out of dead lifts completely and only use them when doing pull ups, if I must.

The videos - I agree with the other dudes here also, cut the bounce you're going to hurt yourself. Its called a dead lift because you're lifting "dead" weight off the floor.

Be sure to tighten your core and stay "tight" that is the best way I have learned to think about it.

I don't pretend to know everything these are just things I've learned through experience and reading. Basically what works for me lol.

- Valdez
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Thanks deezy I appreciate it buddy
 
Next week if its ok with you guys ill throw a video up stopping and resetting between each rep. If you don't mind watching my sh1tty DL's again ha
 
Danb2285 said:
Next week if its ok with you guys ill throw a video up stopping and resetting between each rep. If you don't mind watching my sh1tty DL's again ha
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you got this bro!
 
Danb2285 said:
Next week if its ok with you guys ill throw a video up stopping and resetting between each rep. If you don't mind watching my sh1tty DL's again ha
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Do it up bud! That's what we're here for...

- Valdez
 
Upon first view Db, your shoulders are way out in front of the bar. This is putting one hell of a shear load on your back. You need to bend your knees more so you can rock back onto your heels until the shoulder joint is directly above the bar. I use to take a stick and put it on the bar up to my son's shoulder to help him see how far back he needed to be. I don't know if a buddy can help you here. I would work on getting this position feeling comfortable first before advancing further. Your back will thank you for it.
 
Every Damn class there is always one person that feels compelled or obligated to shout out the answer.. **** man give someone else a chance to Learn
 
What are those?

- Valdez
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Upon first view Db, your shoulders are way out in front of the bar. This is putting one hell of a shear load on your back. You need to bend your knees more so you can rock back onto your heels until the shoulder joint is directly above the bar. I use to take a stick and put it on the bar up to my son's shoulder to help him see how far back he needed to be. I don't know if a buddy can help you here. I would work on getting this position feeling comfortable first before advancing further. Your back will thank you for it.
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Agreed!

- Valdez
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Upon first view Db, your shoulders are way out in front of the bar. This is putting one hell of a shear load on your back. You need to bend your knees more so you can rock back onto your heels until the shoulder joint is directly above the bar. I use to take a stick and put it on the bar up to my son's shoulder to help him see how far back he needed to be. I don't know if a buddy can help you here. I would work on getting this position feeling comfortable first before advancing further. Your back will thank you for it.
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Thanks GB. Ill keep that in mind next time. I never think about my upper body position I guess.
 
Danb2285 said:
Thanks GB. Ill keep that in mind next time. I never think about my upper body position I guess.
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Its mostly an upper body move bud... I approach the bar and get my back in the form I want before even touching it.

I get my stance where I want it which the best way I've heard it explained (by ab) is jump up and land. The position landed in is about where you want your feet spacing.

Once you have your stance, walk up to the bar and get your shin placement.

Then your back form - get your chest out which will like AZ said pinch the scapula and pull your shoulders back. Straighten your upper back and that should effectively give you a nice form in the lower back.

Once I have all that squared away and am satisfied with how"tight" I am, I bend down with mostly legs (a little back, which will put shoulders and arms just about straight over the bar) grab the bar just outside of shin positioning pull a little to make sure that my arms have zero "play" in them. Squeeze the bar with a tight grip, don't be a bitch, squeeze that ****. Look straight ahead and pick that ****er up.

With the movement don't just pick it up and slam it down, catching it on the bounce. I set it down remove any "play" in the arms tighten up core muscles again, deep breath in and pick it up again. Control it on the way down and stay tight.

Sometimes if I am not satisfied with my back form after I put the weight down I'll reset completely before the next rep.

If you have to lower weight a little bit to perfect the movement that will ultimately be the best course of action in the long run.

And as far as how I grip, I usually don't wrap my thumbs on a lot of exercises. I use my hands more or less like hooks.

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
Its mostly an upper body move bud... I approach the bar and get my back in the form I want before even touching it.

I get my stance where I want it which the best way I've heard it explained (by ab) is jump up and land. The position landed in is about where you want your feet spacing.

Once you have your stance, walk up to the bar and get your shin placement.

Then your back form - get your chest out which will like AZ said pinch the scapula and pull your shoulders back. Straighten your upper back and that should effectively give you a nice form in the lower back.

Once I have all that squared away and am satisfied with how"tight" I am, I bend down with mostly legs (a little back, which will put shoulders and arms just about straight over the bar) grab the bar just outside of shin positioning pull a little to make sure that my arms have zero "play" in them. Squeeze the bar with a tight grip, don't be a bitch, squeeze that ****. Look straight ahead and pick that ****er up.

With the movement don't just pick it up and slam it down, catching it on the bounce. I set it down remove any "play" in the arms tighten up core muscles again, deep breath in and pick it up again. Control it on the way down and stay tight.

Sometimes if I am not satisfied with my back form after I put the weight down I'll reset completely before the next rep.

If you have to lower weight a little bit to perfect the movement that will ultimately be the best course of action in the long run.

And as far as how I grip, I usually don't wrap my thumbs on a lot of exercises. I use my hands more or less like hooks.

- Valdez
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Thanks dez. I think I focus so much on just trying to keep my back straight that I don't think about anything else to be honest.
 
Valdez said:
Then your back form - get your chest out which will like JIM said pinch the scapula and pull your shoulders back. Straighten your upper back and that should effectively give you a nice form in the lower back.


- Valdez
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Don't you discredit me :angry:

This is your only warning. :slap:


:joke:
 
Danb2285 said:
Thanks dez. I think I focus so much on just trying to keep my back straight that I don't think about anything else to be honest.
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Its a complex move that takes time perfect... You'll get it but like Frank said if you suck at it you keep going until you improve. Continually evolve to become a better you in all aspects of your life...

Whoa no idea where that last part came from lol

- Valdez
 
jimbuick said:
Don't you discredit me :angry:

This is your only warning. :slap:


:joke:
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That's what you get for kicking me out of the alphas lol!

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
That's what you get for kicking me out of the alphas lol!

- Valdez
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What are you talking about? :thinking:

I remember a post including you, Aaron, AB, and LTL.

I feel like a reading comprehension comment is in order (who caught the reference?)
 
jimbuick said:
What are you talking about? :thinking:

I remember a post including you, Aaron, AB, and LTL.

I feel like a reading comprehension comment is in order (who caught the reference?)
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Go to guide? Lol
 
jimbuick said:
What are you talking about? :thinking:

I remember a post including you, Aaron, AB, and LTL.

I feel like a reading comprehension comment is in order (who caught the reference?)
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I think a kick in the Dick button is in order!

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
Its a complex move that takes time perfect... You'll get it but like Frank said if you suck at it you keep going until you improve. Continually evolve to become a better you in all aspects of your life...

Whoa no idea where that last part came from lol

- Valdez
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Haha you should be an motivational speaker. Like Matt foley...in a van down by the river
 
1st half arrived today. Now just waiting to order AB elite and trying to talk the wife into letting me order EP to go along with it lol

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Grambo said:
That's a nice order there!

I go Smart Powders for whey though
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Honestly I've used gold standard for so long and i like it so I'm scared to switch to anything else lol
 
Danb2285 said:
Honestly I've used gold standard for so long and i like it so I'm scared to switch to anything else lol
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Rockin ON banana cream right now

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I've been stuck on the chocolate mint for a coupl tubs now. It's pretty awesome ha. Finally got my gold scoop too lol
 
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