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Fat loss insan1ty with Sup3r-11 and Ignit3

hairygrandpa said:
Wow, you are very handy! Just thinking about changing a tire gets me an panic attack, lol. I know about the ridiculous fees mechanics charge in your country, you saved at least 300 bucks changing the sensors, right?
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Easily...it is on an old audi. I bought the sensors on eBay for $50 for both. Audi would have charged $100 a piece for each of the two sensors. Probably another $250 easy for the labor...which is why I learned to fix things. I am broke a lot haha. There isn't much I can't fix, houses, cars, wiring, electronics, computers. I suck at plumbing though.
 
HIT4ME said:
Easily...it is on an old audi. I bought the sensors on eBay for $50 for both. Audi would have charged $100 a piece for each of the two sensors. Probably another $250 easy for the labor...which is why I learned to fix things. I am broke a lot haha. There isn't much I can't fix, houses, cars, wiring, electronics, computers. I suck at plumbing though.
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With your skills you should not be broke a lot . I would make flyers and drop them in the neighborhood, advertising as handyman, at least where I live, those guys are in high demand, earning a good living.
 
hairygrandpa said:
With your skills you should not be broke a lot . I would make flyers and drop them in the neighborhood, advertising as handyman, at least where I live, those guys are in high demand, earning a good living.
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Who has time to fix other people's sh1t? I barely have time to get my own sh1t done. Haha. And do stuff for my grandmother, mom, dad, gfs, he's daughters , friends. But they are just letting feel useful.

I sell commercial real estate and have some big projects I've been working on. Feast or famine. I get a big check, do whatever I want, and then can go a year before another big check. Hopefully some of these bigger projects come together and I get more consistent.
 
HIT4ME said:
Who has time to fix other people's sh1t? I barely have time to get my own sh1t done. Haha. And do stuff for my grandmother, mom, dad, gfs, he's daughters , friends. But they are just letting feel useful.

I sell commercial real estate and have some big projects I've been working on. Feast or famine. I get a big check, do whatever I want, and then can go a year before another big check. Hopefully some of these bigger projects come together and I get more consistent.
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Ah, didn't know you have your income sorted out. When you hear someone is broke a lot, one assumes it's because of lack of work.
You may not need advise, here comes anyway:
Have my fair share of experience in real estate.
Try not to pursue the "big projects" to get rich fast. It almost always fails. I once got broke, like "living on the street broke" because of trying to grab the cherry from the cake. It got me very close to become stinking rich (talking about a quarter billion) in about a year time, but it ruined me instead.
After that, "baking small donuts" worked for me.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Ah, didn't know you have your income sorted out. When you hear someone is broke a lot, one assumes it's because of lack of work.
You may not need advise, here comes anyway:
Have my fair share of experience in real estate.
Try not to pursue the "big projects" to get rich fast. It almost always fails. I once got broke, like "living on the street broke" because of trying to grab the cherry from the cake. It got me very close to become stinking rich (talking about a quarter billion) in about a year time, but it ruined me instead.
After that, "baking small donuts" worked for me.
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Well, my projects aren't all that big. I've got some side sources of income in RE (opinions of value for banks, etc.) that provide regular income but not enough to really excel. I do smaller deals too, but I feel like I've wasted a lot of time on small deals that fall apart just as easily as larger deals. I'm not talking large like $250M - although I'm now dealing with some REITs and guys like that that are worth that and more, but most of my big deals right now are between $4-25M. What is funny about it is, I've found kind of a niche and it is slowly, over the past 2 years, coming together and I anticipate in another year I'll be doing pretty well. I live in an area that doesn't have a TON of commercial use and 3 years ago was pretty lean. I think for the period between 3-5 years ago there were maybe 24 commercial properties sold in 24 months in one of the main towns I work in....so that is 1 sale a month and there are probably 20 brokers fighting for those and they weren't all very big. Dealing with these mom and pop shops can be a real nightmare, they just don't listen and don't accept help - so I waste effort and then they do something stupid and kill a deal. I'm finding with these larger properties that bigger investors are interested in, it's almost easier. For instance, I have a property listed for $22M that has a potential long term tenant who isn't long term right now, and the tenant and the owner are constantly struggling against each other. I presented my ideas to a REIT and before I did I was thinking, "This is a long shot. They won't want to take the risk on my logic." and then when I laid it out they were like, "Let's see if we can do this." If I had done that with a smaller person they would have been too scared to even try.

Plus I'm just a broker, so if something doesn't sell, I'm out a commission that I didn't have anyway. But I do waste a lot of time "not selling" properties.

Your advice is good, and I'm sorry that you didn't strike it big! Were you in Germany at the time? I am working for a very wealty German right now who is a great guy.

Last night I did my chest and Biceps workout. I was actually pretty dang tired but pushed through as much as I could. I've actually gotten a little stronger, slowly, but I guess I should be since the weight isn't flying off.

Workout:
Incline Dumbbell Flyes:
1 X 8 X 47.5 warm up.
1 X 8 X 67.5 (last week I got 8, but 7 was a struggle and 8 was near impossible and I almost dropped it on myself. This week, I tried for 9 but couldn't get out of the bottom, 8 was only a slight struggle)

Bench Press:
Drop Set
2 X 200
1 X 185
1 X 165
1 X 145

pretty much the same as last week, but I did 2 X 145 last week. Considering I got a little more on the flyes I am not too unhappy about this.

Dips:
1 X 8 X B.W.
1 X 7 X B.W.

better than last week, but I threw in extra sets at 145 on the bench last week (like 5)

Barbell Curls:
1 X 8 X 45 warm up
1 X 8 X 80

I actually have more planned for biceps, but it was just a tired night and I didn't have much left.

Then, I went home and had a cheat meal. I was considering skipping it, as it's my normal cheat day but I had a second cheat last Tuesday or Wed. when I went to that birthday party and gained a bunch back. I didn't though and I felt bad this morning, but I need to just buckled down and get back on track and be more consistent.

Today's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 180.5 pounds
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 38.75"

I'm sure a bunch of that was just food, water and glycogen weight, but it still feels like a set back. I will get back in line.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Ah, didn't know you have your income sorted out. When you hear someone is broke a lot, one assumes it's because of lack of work.
You may not need advise, here comes anyway:
Have my fair share of experience in real estate.
Try not to pursue the "big projects" to get rich fast. It almost always fails. I once got broke, like "living on the street broke" because of trying to grab the cherry from the cake. It got me very close to become stinking rich (talking about a quarter billion) in about a year time, but it ruined me instead.
After that, "baking small donuts" worked for me.
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oh, and thanks for the advise - always appreciated. Especially good advice like that. My lack of income is due to bills and lack of getting paid for all the work I do! haha. I get by, and one day I'll be ahead.
 
HIT4ME said:
Your advice is good, and I'm sorry that you didn't strike it big! Were you in Germany at the time?
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Yes, it was right after the Berlin wall fell, I've foreseen what would happening and got the exclusive selling rights for properties who were once communist state properties around Berlin. I bribed state officials to convert the properties from agriculture use -to properties up for building (don't know the proper English therms) increasing their value by about 1000% , a political decision killed all my deals in one day, leaving me living in my car and on social welfare for a couple of month. The bigger fish made then the deals and I was complete broke. Well...not for long. :)

Nowadays I'm developing rural properties into habitable ones with streets, electricity and infrastructure, then selling parcels to the natives.
 
Whew! It took me 3 days but I finally got caught up on your log.

Amazing progress. Very impressive.

With the workouts you're posting, I really don't see how you're not jacked. But, the fat loss is phenomenal.

BTW, it makes perfect sense to me that the scale can stall while the body size shrinks when you're doing good lifting.

The muscles build, more fibers, more glucogen, and hold more water. That all offsets the fat loss.

While it's always satisfying to see the scale drop, I always base my REAL progress on my weekly body measurements.
 
Kaprice said:
Whew! It took me 3 days but I finally got caught up on your log.

Amazing progress. Very impressive.

With the workouts you're posting, I really don't see how you're not jacked. But, the fat loss is phenomenal.

BTW, it makes perfect sense to me that the scale can stall while the body size shrinks when you're doing good lifting.

The muscles build, more fibers, more glucogen, and hold more water. That all offsets the fat loss.

While it's always satisfying to see the scale drop, I always base my REAL progress on my weekly body measurements.
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Yep!
The scale lies, measurement -and mirror don't.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Yep!
The scale lies, measurement -and mirror don't.
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Scale doesn't lie. It just doesn't tell the whole story. (But, I know that's what you meant.) :)
 
Kaprice said:
Whew! It took me 3 days but I finally got caught up on your log.

Amazing progress. Very impressive.

With the workouts you're posting, I really don't see how you're not jacked. But, the fat loss is phenomenal.

BTW, it makes perfect sense to me that the scale can stall while the body size shrinks when you're doing good lifting.

The muscles build, more fibers, more glucogen, and hold more water. That all offsets the fat loss.

While it's always satisfying to see the scale drop, I always base my REAL progress on my weekly body measurements.
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Thanks for taking the time to actually read it! I hope it was worth it. I'm still pretty fat. I think as I close in on 160 I will start showing muscle differently, actually I'm already starting to see it. Unfortunately, my camera isn't so great and a lot of details aren't clear. I'm starting to see my upper abs come in a little, which is promising. I'm not sure what you liked about my workouts, but they are very brief and intense. Plenty of people on here lift more than I do and plenty go longer than I do.

The thing about the scale not falling is that I'm not expecting that I am building any muscle. I mean, most days I'm eating 800 calories and up until today I was taking T3 along side that. This combination usually has people warning about muscle wasting and literally just falling off your body. In that light, I'm just trying to hold onto as much muscle as possible and I don't think there's any real possibility of gaining muscle....although I'm showing some signs none-the-less. So I expect otherwise, but the results may indicate you are right.

I think water weight has a lot to do with it too....

hairygrandpa said:
Yep!
The scale lies, measurement -and mirror don't.
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Kaprice said:
Scale doesn't lie. It just doesn't tell the whole story. (But, I know that's what you meant.) :)
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I think all 3 are just tools. They show a direction and that's it. It's good to have as many factors as possible to make sure you're not missing results and getting disappointed. I mean, a lot of times I gain weight and my waist goes down. If I wasn't measuring my waist, I would think I was going in the wrong direction - but knowing I have a smaller waist tells me not to worry about the weight.

Today's Weigh In:
Bodyweight: 178.5 pounds
Tanita Bodyfat %: 23%
Wasit: 38.5 - but I FORGOT to measure it before I took my shower. After my shower I took my DCP, Brite, Sup3r-PCT and IDL Fat Burner and drank about 24 oz. of water and then realized I didn't measure my waist...so I went back and did that. I'm sure my stomach was a little bigger from the water.

Tonight is back night. Looking forward to showing HGP how effective my workouts can be.

At least when I deadlift, I can walk the next day hairygrandpa
 
When you say "waist" do you mean belt area? Or, belly button?

I can't imagine drinking water would affect the belt area much.
 
Kaprice said:
When you say "waist" do you mean belt area? Or, belly button?

I can't imagine drinking water would affect the belt area much.
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Belly button...pretty much the widest point. You are correct, the belt wouldn't have much impact from water. Even with the water in the stomach and measuring at the waist I maybe had an extra 1/4".
 
Sorry for the late updates guys. I've had a busy day and last night didn't go as planned either.

So, I recently ordered the "Caramel Cookie Stix" modern protein and they hooked it up with a sample package with TONS of samples. By the time I got to working out last night, I was a little tired, so I opened the sample pack, found some "Jack3d" and mixed it up as a pre-workout. Pretty good mixing, pretty good taste, I enjoyed it going down. 30 minutes I was setting up for my workout and thought, "I'm actually feeling some energy coming on."

Then I went to do my warmup of deadlifts and it just didn't feel right. I told myself to push on, loaded up the bar with my working weight (405 lb.) and did my first rep. Went for a second. Almost got it up and my right hand grip completely failed. I just couldn't squeeze. My muscles were shaking, I started having the cold and hot at the same time feeling, a little sick feeling - I knew right away. I decided, "Ok, deadlifts aren't happening tonight." Onto pull ups. I got to #7 and my stomach felt queezy. I wasn't going to be giving my all, that was obvious. I came home to check the label on the Jack3d package....Yohimbine. My worst enemy. Didn't see it was in there. Since I took it around 6:30 I knew I was in for a rough night. I went to bed around 11:30 and laid in bed until about 3 AM before I fell asleep for real. That was lucky. I expected I was going to be up through the entire night.

This morning's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 176.5 pounds
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 38.5"

So far today, I've had a scoop of Modern protein in water with psyllium husks. 130 calories, 24 grams protein. It's about 3 PM here right now.

We will see if I try to workout tonight, given my lack of sleep. If I can't give my best effort, I prefer to wait until I can.
 
HIT4ME said:
Belly button...pretty much the widest point. You are correct, the belt wouldn't have much impact from water. Even with the water in the stomach and measuring at the waist I maybe had an extra 1/4".
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I measure belt area, belly button sucked in, and belly button relaxed.

I find that gives me a pretty good indication of progress.

the relaxed measure fluctuates the most because what relaxed means from one day to the next varies widely.
 
Are you particularly sensitive to Yohimbine? Or, is it actually bad pre-work out for most people?
 
Rand0m said:
Yohimbine in a pwo. Yikes.
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Yeah, I looked real quick and missed it. Honestly, it gave me good energy - kept me up all night. I've been in worse shape. It's just the shakes, muscle weakness, nausea, etc. that it gives me that makes it unbearable. It's too bad because it's probably the best thing for waking up for me. Alpha-Yohimbine is fine, I like it. It isn't quite as potent, but does wake me up and doesn't give me the nastier sides.

Kaprice said:
I measure belt area, belly button sucked in, and belly button relaxed.

I find that gives me a pretty good indication of progress.

the relaxed measure fluctuates the most because what relaxed means from one day to the next varies widely.
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I just do the relaxed measurement. I'm always looking for the worst case scenario, so I pretty much let it all hang out and measure that. Your method is much more thorough than mine. When you said in your log that you were a computer programmer - I thought to myself, "If I had two guesses, that would have been up there." The good programmers I know are logical, thorough, etc. Like engineers.

Kaprice said:
Are you particularly sensitive to Yohimbine? Or, is it actually bad pre-work out for most people?
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I'm sensitive to Yohimbine. It doesn't agree with me. As I said above, I actually think it did a good job if it weren't for the yohimbine sides. Maybe I should have just tried a half package :) Stimulants usually have a mild effect on me though....except Yohimbine.
 
I can't do much with yohimbine pre workout. Even alpha. It has to be LISS cardio at most. It's crazy that some people can do HIIT on it but I guess we all respond differently. I get cold sweats, nauseous and it feels like my heart is racing even though it's normal, which makes the workout feel harder than it actually is.
 
Rand0m said:
I can't do much with yohimbine pre workout. Even alpha. It has to be LISS cardio at most. It's crazy that some people can do HIIT on it but I guess we all respond differently. I get cold sweats, nauseous and it feels like my heart is racing even though it's normal, which makes the workout feel harder than it actually is.
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Yes! It amazes me how I actually believe I can't create as much force in my muscles when it kicks in. Like I was saying on the deadlifts, I often have grip failure ...but not like that. It's like I got it up and just couldn't even contract the muscles. Nearly just dropped the weight. I may be able to do some HIIT, never tried. But yeah, LISS would be the ideal for it. It just isn't good to me.
 
So today was pretty full and busy. Haven't had time to update and could barely keep up with all the activity on this board. So many people out there are running logs now and showing inspiration and motivation and I am excited to see so many people with their sh1t together and it makes me want to do better. bighulksmash is doing his thing leading the way with a brand new log looking for some gains. Kaprice is killing it with a log of his efforts to cut up and be a beast. sparks2012 is just being a beast and working his butt off in the gym, being a monstah. jakz is just going nuts. And mechka_grizli is crushing the fat loss having done in 4 weeks what took me 8 or more. And of course hairygrandpa is taking a workout/rehab break in his epic log but still supporting everyone.

And then there are so many people on this log supporting me and I really appreciate it. So many names and I'm going to leave a bunch out and I apologize - Hastur NewAgeMayan - thanks for talking me into starting this log and pushing me to make it happen. NoAddedHmones, CJNator, and more than I can list - thanks for all the advice and support, etc. I owe everyone.

Today's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 175.5
Tabitha Body fat %: 24%
Waist: 38.5"

New low on the weight! Gonna keep trying to push that, it seems to come in waves and then stop and then another wave.

I decided to go workout tonight and do the back workout I couldn't do the other night. Before the workout I used the Modern Pre sample that USP labs sent with my protein order. It was fruit punch, tasted great and I made sure there was not any Y in it.

Workout:
Deadlifts:
1 x 8 x 225. (As I was doing this set I realized I pulled something in my back around my rib cage. Didn't feel totally injured, just pulled/tugging)
1 x 3 x 405 (yup, I normally struggle to get 2 reps, figured the fact I wasn't doing a drop set gave me the mental edge, but....wait and see)

1 x 1 x 405

Pull Ups
1 x 11 x BW (2 more reps than last week!)
1 x 6 x BW (again, 2 more reps!)

So now I am thinking...wow ...why is this feeling so easy?

Bent Over Rows:
1 x 6 x 175 (+3 reps!)
1 x 4 x 175 (+2)

Under Handed Pull Downs
Drop Set
8 x 135 (+2)
3 x 120 (+2)
2 x 105 (+1)

And I was done. Increased reps in every exercise. Things felt much easier. I am thinking the pre workout actually worked...never seen anything like this. Wish I had more to test and see if this was an anomaly.

Today's diet:

1 bag beef jerky (110 cals/14 g pro) and a muscle milk (160 calls 26 g pro), another oz. Jerky later (80 calls, 14 g pro), 1 scoop select post workout(120/24), 5 oz. Chicken (200/38) and 1 bag broccoli (120/12)

Total of 795 calories and 128 grams protein if my math is right.

Let's see if this wave keeps going.
 
Gave you reps for hitting a new low! That's always such a great feeling!

Are your pullups full bodyweight with no assist? I can't do a single pull up at full body weight.

And your bent over rows... nothing supporting your back? You're just bending over and lifting 175?
 
Kaprice said:
Gave you reps for hitting a new low! That's always such a great feeling!

Are your pullups full bodyweight with no assist? I can't do a single pull up at full body weight.

And your bent over rows... nothing supporting your back? You're just bending over and lifting 175?
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Yes on both. When I started I couldn't do any pull ups at all. I just wanted to so badly ....I set up a bench near the pull up bar, stood on it, grabbed the bar and stepped off...holding myself up as long as possible until I was lowered all the way, stepped on the bench and did it again ...I weighed around 290 and between doing this and losing weight I could do 1- 2 pull ups pretty quickly, even with that weight. Soon I was strapping weight on for the negatives..

Bent over rows don't have any support.
 
HIT4ME said:
Yes on both. When I started I couldn't do any pull ups at all. I just wanted to so badly ....I set up a bench near the pull up bar, stood on it, grabbed the bar and stepped off...holding myself up as long as possible until I was lowered all the way, stepped on the bench and did it again ...I weighed around 290 and between doing this and losing weight I could do 1- 2 pull ups pretty quickly, even with that weight. Soon I was strapping weight on for the negatives..

Bent over rows don't have any support.
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I, too, want to be able to do pull ups. I've mostly used the weight assist machine, but toyed with the body drop technique. I might go back to that.

It's the palms front I struggle with. I can do a few palms facing grip. Which grip are you using? Technically, I think palms forward are pull ups and palms facing are chin ups, but I think most people just use the terms interchangeably.

Those bent over rows -- man, I'd be so nervous about the stress on the lower back. I've been doing single handed dumbbell rows with one knee and one hand on a bench for support.
 
Kaprice said:
I, too, want to be able to do pull ups. I've mostly used the weight assist machine, but toyed with the body drop technique. I might go back to that.

It's the palms front I struggle with. I can do a few palms facing grip. Which grip are you using? Technically, I think palms forward are pull ups and palms facing are chin ups, but I think most people just use the terms interchangeably.

Those bent over rows -- man, I'd be so nervous about the stress on the lower back. I've been doing single handed dumbbell rows with one knee and one hand on a bench for support.
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I do palms forward. I believe in the same terms as you ...chin ups are palms facing in, pull ups facing out.

You don't get stronger when you coddle a weakness. Bent over dumbbell rows are effective. The fact that you get lower back activation with bent rows is what makes your lower back stronger, which is what protects from injury.

I aim for 4 seconds up, 2 second pause at contraction, 4 second lower. This isn't good for an athlete training for expressiveness, but. I truly believe it puts stress on the muscle and eliminates the possibility of jerking and swinging and means the chance of hurting yourself is greatly diminished. I mean, I just did deadliest and pull ups with a pulled muscle in my back and didn't hurt myself . I may not be prepared to play football. But whatever.
 
lol, it's from the old "don't do drugs" commercials in the 80s. The dad finds the kids pot stash and is yelling at him, "where'd you learn this?" And finally the kid yells out, "I learned it from you alright!?"

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HIT4ME said:
I do palms forward. I believe in the same terms as you ...chin ups are palms facing in, pull ups facing out.

You don't get stronger when you coddle a weakness. Bent over dumbbell rows are effective. The fact that you get lower back activation with bent rows is what makes your lower back stronger, which is what protects from injury.

I aim for 4 seconds up, 2 second pause at contraction, 4 second lower. This isn't good for an athlete training for expressiveness, but. I truly believe it puts stress on the muscle and eliminates the possibility of jerking and swinging and means the chance of hurting yourself is greatly diminished. I mean, I just did deadliest and pull ups with a pulled muscle in my back and didn't hurt myself . I may not be prepared to play football. But whatever.
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I read somewhere that doing pulling movements 4.1.1 isn't a good idea for some odd reason (guess stress on tendons), -but holding a few seconds on top, squeezing the scapulas together is.
Your pull ups are strong, bro awesome approach doing them negative first!
 
hairygrandpa said:
I read somewhere that doing pulling movements 4.1.1 isn't a good idea for some odd reason (guess stress on tendons), -but holding a few seconds on top, squeezing the scapulas together is.
Your pull ups are strong, bro awesome approach doing them negative first!
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Yeah. Again, I do 4.2.4 ...but only in theory I guess. Most of the time it is probably closer to 3/1.5/3...cuz you always count faster than you think, but I also modify to fit the exercise. I don't allow it to interfere with the movement...so deadliest, squats, leg presses in particular I probably go a little different.

You are also not supposed to control the negative on a deadlift, but I do anyway. I am sure if I was lifting 600 or 800 I would have to modify my approach...but I am not there yet.
 
Morning weigh in:

Bodyweight: 175 pounds
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 38.25"

Going back in the right direction...
 
HIT4ME said:
Sorry for the late updates guys. I've had a busy day and last night didn't go as planned either.

So, I recently ordered the "Caramel Cookie Stix" modern protein and they hooked it up with a sample package with TONS of samples. By the time I got to working out last night, I was a little tired, so I opened the sample pack, found some "Jack3d" and mixed it up as a pre-workout. Pretty good mixing, pretty good taste, I enjoyed it going down. 30 minutes I was setting up for my workout and thought, "I'm actually feeling some energy coming on."

Then I went to do my warmup of deadlifts and it just didn't feel right. I told myself to push on, loaded up the bar with my working weight (405 lb.) and did my first rep. Went for a second. Almost got it up and my right hand grip completely failed. I just couldn't squeeze. My muscles were shaking, I started having the cold and hot at the same time feeling, a little sick feeling - I knew right away. I decided, "Ok, deadlifts aren't happening tonight." Onto pull ups. I got to #7 and my stomach felt queezy. I wasn't going to be giving my all, that was obvious. I came home to check the label on the Jack3d package....Yohimbine. My worst enemy. Didn't see it was in there. Since I took it around 6:30 I knew I was in for a rough night. I went to bed around 11:30 and laid in bed until about 3 AM before I fell asleep for real. That was lucky. I expected I was going to be up through the entire night.

This morning's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 176.5 pounds
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24%
Waist: 38.5"

So far today, I've had a scoop of Modern protein in water with psyllium husks. 130 calories, 24 grams protein. It's about 3 PM here right now.

We will see if I try to workout tonight, given my lack of sleep. If I can't give my best effort, I prefer to wait until I can.
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The new Jack3d ****s me up too but I'm good with yohimbine. I have bottle that I probably will never use again.
 
CJNator said:
The new Jack3d ****s me up too but I'm good with yohimbine. I have bottle that I probably will never use again.
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I have a bunch of samples they sent...was thinking of doing half doses, which I never need to do. The ModernPre is pretty good though - I really think it is a big reason I was doing so much extra last night on my back workout. Didn't expect that.
 
HIT4ME said:
I have a bunch of samples they sent...was thinking of doing half doses, which I never need to do. The ModernPre is pretty good though - I really think it is a big reason I was doing so much extra last night on my back workout. Didn't expect that.
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Yea modern pre is a good pre workout but too costly for what's in it. Half dose is ok but too much anxiety still. For some reason i had to keep spitting and it was hard to control my breathing.
 
bighulksmash said:
I got some half dmaa half caffeine caps i think its 100 / 400 .... lmk
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Dude what? You have pills that have 100mg DMAA and 400mg caffeine in them? Color me intrigued.
 
Bro, that is some heavy stimulation in those pills. I wouldn't even leave those around. Someone pops two and they could be in trouble. I'm picturing doc brown saying, "If my calculations are correct, we're about to see some serious sh1t."

Today was pretty low cal. I've had a scoop modern protein with some psyllium husks, 1 oz. Turkey jerky, 1 cheese stick, and 7 oz. Chicken. About 530 calories and about 110 grams protein. I will have another scoop protein and something small to come closer to 800 cals later.

I'm also thinking I should be adding in a referred every week now. It is recommend in the rapid fat loss book to do a referred and allow 1 cheat per week. I've been cheating a bit too much so I need to tighten that up and do a proper refeed

I am thinking a burrito with white rice and ground beef once per week could be really great haha.
 
HIT4ME said:
I'm also thinking I should be adding in a referred every week now. It is recommend in the rapid fat loss book to do a referred and allow 1 cheat per week. I've been cheating a bit too much so I need to tighten that up and do a proper refeed
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You mean REFEED?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Anything over 75mg DMAA is just dumb
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lol - I know how much you like the stim heroes on this board. I tend to agree with this, but BigHulkSmash pushes limits and loves his stims. I just hope one of his friends that doesn't know better doesn't find those pills and think, "How bad can it be?" and pop two at once...that would be pretty bad. One may teach you a lesson. Two may do much worse.

Today's weigh in:

Bodyweight: 176 pounds (??? Who knows what goes on in there? I ate less than 800 calories yesterday)
Tanita Bodyfat %: 24% (the fact this has ticked up a % is strange, but I have a feeling it always does this before I lose a bunch of weight in a "swoosh")
Waist: 38.25"

And I believe another two weeks has passed. I feel, again, like the weight loss has stalled but I think the photos show I'm still leaning out despite the weight not coming off:

Compared to beginning of the log:

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Compared to two weeks ago:

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Sorry for the crappy photos and crappy editing - I'm not KAPrice, haha. But I think you can see the progress.
 
Wow! You're totally transforming! VERY IMPRESSIVE!
 
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