Excelsior pre workout

I felt like the original Excelsior was 4-fma, it was insane though, not going to lie. I even shared and gave my buddy one of my OG tubs.

Smash feels like some amphetamine, but not Adderal, since I already have pharma. The original Killswitch also feels like some amphetamine - Smash is more aggressive and Killswitch is more focus, neither is euphoric, I only have the first batches of those two and they do hit hard but nothing like euphoria. Those two were stronger than Wildfire but not in a positive way- I like Wildfire's Euphoria, outside of OG Excelsior Wildfire is the most euphoric Pre for me, then Crack Gold.

I am not a stim junkie because I do not like vasoconstriction and I genetically have too much muscle tone so I get CNS issues but I personally believe this is from the Vax.

I already do phenibut and microdose psilocybin daily for nootropic benefits; phenibut is too sedating for me to dose it high for its euphoria-- I use it as an anxiolytic. Although the other version of Phenibut is apparently more stimulating, I might try it.
 
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What I don't understand is that it managed to never get any 'heat', so why change the formula? Unless they have been getting pressured privately. If they stayed with the OG formula, the demand would be crazy -- and it is not like it still isn't 'shady' or 'illicit' or anything.
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
If u swear it is the I'm sure it is. All else fails do the 3 scoop test. I had a sample of 7/26 from colonol_panics in like December and that was some fire..idk if og but man it was close enough to me. Idk if 7/26 now is different
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I sent zufir some of.mybsmooth lid 7/26 its amazing he can vouch for it input colonel panic on to that one when it first came out
 
Justjoe7989 said:
I sent zufir some of.mybsmooth lid 7/26 its amazing he can vouch for it input colonel panic on to that one when it first came out
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I've got a few of evas 6/26s coming next week hope they are worth it
 

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I just realized I still have an og tub, but I spilled water in there, so it crystallized. I just took a scoop of it now.

I just never bothered because the purity and potency loss annoyed me. It's from 2021 or so.
 
excelsiors said:
I just realized I still have an og tub, but I spilled water in there, so it crystallized. I just took a scoop of it now.

I just never bothered because the purity and potency loss annoyed me. It's from 2021 or so.
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Nice!! I still have a few 11/22 thermals I 10000 percent believe there is an amphetamine like substance in those I would bet t.its 3fma and the later ones up to 4/24 have 4fma 5/24 is where is started to change greatly
 
excelsiors said:
I just realized I still have an og tub, but I spilled water in there, so it crystallized. I just took a scoop of it now.

I just never bothered because the purity and potency loss annoyed me. It's from 2021 or so.
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U mean it's full or alot of power in there? I would have drank or got every last bit of powder out of the tub years ago lol. Couldn't forget
 
Justjoe7989 said:
Nice!! I still have a few 11/22 thermals I 10000 percent believe there is an amphetamine like substance in those I would bet t.its 3fma and the later ones up to 4/24 have 4fma 5/24 is where is started to change greatly
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No there was 4/24 and 5/24s 6/24s that had the same exact ingredient as 2/23, 8/23s. But not as constant in tubs. 9/21/ 11/22 and before were a bit stronger..or maybe I think because that was when I first started it. Please God rain down an 8/23 to my front door..cry tears of joy lol
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
No there was 4/24 and 5/24s 6/24s that had the same exact ingredient as 2/23, 8/23s. But not as constant in tubs. 9/21/ 11/22 and before were a bit stronger..or maybe I think because that was when I first started it. Please God rain down an 8/23 to my front door..cry tears of joy lol
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No way bud.... I've been through 1 4 /24 6 5/24 and over 10 6/24s all three had very different actives 6/24 i would guess its isopropyl phenidate due to the long lasting productive energy 4/24 most likely 4fma 5/24 was a weird one at less then a scoop it acted like a stimulate but a scoop and a half it was very sedating based on the reviews of the earlier ones it was some type of amphetime analog I have a bottle off 11/22 thermal and its defintly some type of methamphetamine analog possibly 3fma
 
Justjoe7989 said:
No way bud.... I've been through 1 4 /24 6 5/24 and over 10 6/24s all three had very different actives 6/24 i would guess its isopropyl phenidate due to the long lasting productive energy 4/24 most likely 4fma 5/24 was a weird one at less then a scoop it acted like a stimulate but a scoop and a half it was very sedating based on the reviews of the earlier ones it was some type of amphetime analog I have a bottle off 11/22 thermal and its defintly some type of methamphetamine analog possibly 3fma
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As an excelsior addict I disagree. Most 4/24s 5/24, 6/24 weren't like the old yes. But there were variations in those batches and I've had a tub of each that hit like the old. I've bought more excelsior tubs than probably anyone so I know every tub can be different. I've had thermal 11/22 and 9/21 and were ehhh and 8/23, 4/24, 5/24 that were amazing.
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
As an excelsior addict I disagree. Most 4/24s 5/24, 6/24 weren't like the old yes. But there were variations in those batches and I've had a tub of each that hit like the old. I've bought more excelsior tubs than probably anyone so I know every tub can be different.
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I think we should just agree to disagree🤗
 
Justjoe7989 said:
Im not quite sure what it is exactly that your saying but my stance is 4/24 5/24 and 6/24 were different from each other
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I've never had any excelsior before 4/24 so I can't offer an opinion on how they compare to the early ones but.... 11/22 thermal spark is pure euphoria and focus🤗
 
Justjoe7989 said:
I've never had any excelsior before 4/24 so I can't offer an opinion on how they compare to the early ones but.... 11/22 thermal spark is pure euphoria and focus🤗
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Ohh I see what your saying now then. And yes I miss that pure euphoria and focus..the smoothness is perfect. I wish I had the chance or source to try 3fma or 4fma to know for sure. Might be bad idea for me tho lol
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
Ohh I see what your saying now then. And yes I miss that pure euphoria and focus..the smoothness is perfect. I wish I had the chance or source to try 3fma or 4fma to know for sure. Might be bad idea for me tho lol
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DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?
 

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Justjoe7989 said:
DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?
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Any excelsior or thermal user is a friend to me..lol but yes. Now may I have a sample of that smooth lid 7/26 that u send to others please..or an 11/22 thermal..haha. Colonol_panics had sent one months ago I wonder how it compares. I'll pay u back lol. 2 scoops only..let me relive the memories one more time sirlol
 
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DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?
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Hockeyman1019 said:
Any excelsior or thermal user is a friend to me..lol but yes. Now may I have a sample of that smooth lid 7/26 that u send to others please..or an 11/22 thermal..haha. Colonol_panics had sent one months ago I wonder how it compares. I'll pay u back lol
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Hockeyman1019 said:
U mean it's full or alot of power in there? I would have drank or got every last bit of powder out of the tub years ago lol. Couldn't forget
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No, it just completely crystallized.. I still had another tub at the time, and when I ran out, I looked in there, and it was all crystal, very hard, and I was too stubborn to break it up. The tub was about 80 percent full. Plus, it wasn't as good as the original tub; I believe this was the first red one.

I'm too deep into my cut, so I'll have to try both (this and Eva's) mid-May after my cut is over. This way I can accurately gauge its effects - it is euphoric for sure, even when I am feeling like death right now.
 
excelsiors said:
No, it just completely crystallized.. I still had another tub at the time, and when I ran out, I looked in there, and it was all crystal, very hard, and I was too stubborn to break it up. The tub was about 80 percent full. Plus, it wasn't as good as the original tub; I believe this was the first red one.

I'm too deep into my cut, so I'll have to try both (this and Eva's) mid-May after my cut is over. This way I can accurately gauge its effects - it is euphoric for sure, even when I am feeling like death right now.
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Lol..old excelsior is perfect for cutting..but yeah a better gauge would be after a cut. You have good discipline.
 
excelsiors said:
No, it just completely crystallized.. I still had another tub at the time, and when I ran out, I looked in there, and it was all crystal, very hard, and I was too stubborn to break it up. The tub was about 80 percent full. Plus, it wasn't as good as the original tub; I believe this was the first red one.

I'm too deep into my cut, so I'll have to try both (this and Eva's) mid-May after my cut is over. This way I can accurately gauge its effects - it is euphoric for sure, even when I am feeling like death right now.
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Don’t worry. I had that happen to one of my black tub 06/24 and I simply sliced it up into cubes. I couldn't dry scoop it so I mixed it with water
 
Moozefighter said:
Anyone tried the last version of hydrazine?
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I haven’t, but I got what appears to be new batch of Thermal Spark. I always pop open the capsules to see how it looks. Thermal Spark is always usually brownish with white specks. The new batch is now all noticeable white powder with the white specks. I would say it hits even slightly weaker. Each new batch just gets weaker and weaker. Will update if anything changes. Anyone else’s notices the difference when you pop open the pill?
 
Cryptocommander said:
I haven’t, but I got what appears to be new batch of Thermal Spark. I always pop open the capsules to see how it looks. Thermal Spark is always usually brownish with white specks. The new batch is now all noticeable white powder with the white specks. I would say it hits even slightly weaker. Each new batch just gets weaker and weaker. Will update if anything changes. Anyone else’s notices the difference when you pop open the pill?
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What is the lot/exp?
 
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I got the st /[emoji[emoji6]] straight fire but its the brown powder with white chunks
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The brown powder is fire. Smh I’m not sure why this batch like this.
 
Cryptocommander said:
I haven’t, but I got what appears to be new batch of Thermal Spark. I always pop open the capsules to see how it looks. Thermal Spark is always usually brownish with white specks. The new batch is now all noticeable white powder with the white specks. I would say it hits even slightly weaker. Each new batch just gets weaker and weaker. Will update if anything changes. Anyone else’s notices the difference when you pop open the pill?
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I have 1/27 which is brown with white specs, i also found a vid on my phone from 2020 that has brown thermal spark but those were definitely stronger than the 1/27 ones so id say the active in thermal is the brown stuff im guessing just less concentrated these days
 
Want to know what’s in the pink 7/26 with white pieces and ridge lid from Eva’s. Absolutely nothing!!! White floaters. And absolutely nothing. Nothing like the one they had a few months back.
 
I haven't tried the recent Thermal Spark I received from Eva's yet but I feel like once they went out on blast with the emails, this was the beginning of the end of TS and Excelsior.
 
This old tub reminds me why everyone is so addicted to this, including me - even when I fasted for the entire day, no carbs, I was euphoric and did not want to leave the gym.

Usually, I do not want to leave the gym when I am having too much fun, but with this, you're also euphoric and still have the same level of energy as when you started. I am glad I saved it, but now I will be upset again when this tub is over.

It's too good, the best, most enjoyable preworkout, and since this is the last tub, I am going to feel that sense of loss again when I run out.

I am not a fan of Stim PWOs; they feel like different versions of Clen. I have tried the original batches of Killswitch, Legit, Godmode, Wildfire, and Smash, and they're strong but very aggressive. The CNS overstimulation, heart rate, and vasoconstriction will make it not fun to train on in general.

In Canada it's too hard to source the raw of whatever is in here, but maybe I'd end up trying to find out. I'll try Eva's tomorrow. I doubt it is even comparable; I'll save the rest of the OG when my cut is over.
 
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excelsiors said:
This old tub reminds me why everyone is so addicted to this, including me - even when I fasted for the entire day, no carbs, I was euphoric and did not want to leave the gym.

Usually, I do not want to leave the gym when I am having too much fun, but with this, you're also euphoric and still have the same level of energy as when you started. I am glad I saved it, but now I will be upset again when this tub is over.

It's too good, the best, most enjoyable preworkout, and since this is the last tub, I am going to feel that sense of loss again when I run out.

In Canada it's too hard to source the raw of whatever is in here, but maybe I'd end up trying to find out. I'll try Eva's tomorrow. I doubt it is even comparable; I'll save the rest of the OG when my cut is over.
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Enjoy it lol..that feeling is unique. And I've tried all the best stims. Except the research 3fa ect kind of ones.
 
excelsiors said:
This old tub reminds me why everyone is so addicted to this, including me - even when I fasted for the entire day, no carbs, I was euphoric and did not want to leave the gym.

Usually, I do not want to leave the gym when I am having too much fun, but with this, you're also euphoric and still have the same level of energy as when you started. I am glad I saved it, but now I will be upset again when this tub is over.

It's too good, the best, most enjoyable preworkout, and since this is the last tub, I am going to feel that sense of loss again when I run out.

I am not a fan of Stim PWOs; they feel like different versions of Clen. I have tried the original batches of Killswitch, Legit, Godmode, Wildfire, and Smash, and they're strong but very aggressive. The CNS overstimulation, heart rate, and vasoconstriction will make it not fun to train on in general.

In Canada it's too hard to source the raw of whatever is in here, but maybe I'd end up trying to find out. I'll try Eva's tomorrow. I doubt it is even comparable; I'll save the rest of the OG when my cut is over.
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I got a tub from Eva's a few weeks ago (07/26 exp.), have taken 1.5 scoops on an empty stomach on several different occasions, and I've never felt anything from it. Curious to hear if your experience is any better.
 
Tried a session on hydrazine. After weeks without any PWO.

It was stronger then the last two tubs of Excelsior i got from predator. Stronger in a good way.

It was also stronger then the normal doomsday tubs. In a bad way.

So it kicks inn stronger. But its a hyper restless kind of energy. Good for agressive training. But not euphoria, or good feeling. Not during or after training.

Its actually kills your good mood.
 
SpicedCider said:
I got a tub from Eva's a few weeks ago (07/26 exp.), have taken 1.5 scoops on an empty stomach on several different occasions, and I've never felt anything from it. Curious to hear if your experience is any better.
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Nvm I tried 07/26 from Eva's multiple times and gave it to my gf to give it a shot and it's a dud. No effect whatsoever. She usually can't sleep the night of after taking excelsior during the day but she was able to nap and sleep well. The dragon is not back, it's dead.

The last recent working batch is 06/26 with ridges white powder with pink sprinkles.

As long as this pink sandy batch is alive, I cannot recommend it anymore.
 
zufir said:
Nvm I tried 07/26 from Eva's multiple times and gave it to my gf to give it a shot and it's a dud. No effect whatsoever. She usually can't sleep the night of after taking excelsior during the day but she was able to nap and sleep well. The dragon is not back, it's dead.

The last recent working batch is 06/26 with ridges white powder with pink sprinkles.

As long as this pink sandy batch is alive, I cannot recommend it anymore.
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Have youbtried theb6/26 pink batch yet from evas? I got three coming today or monday
 
zufir said:
Nvm I tried 07/26 from Eva's multiple times and gave it to my gf to give it a shot and it's a dud. No effect whatsoever. She usually can't sleep the night of after taking excelsior during the day but she was able to nap and sleep well. The dragon is not back, it's dead.

The last recent working batch is 06/26 with ridges white powder with pink sprinkles.

As long as this pink sandy batch is alive, I cannot recommend it anymore.
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Those are my current batches and they seem pretty similar. I’d probably give a slight nod to the 6/26. Haven’t tried Eva’s 7/26s yet
 
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