Excelsior pre workout

uforce said:
interested in effects as a daily. with excelsior, i could get 2 good days and then effects diminished drastically. i had to limit to twice a week and keep those two days spread out.
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This is not one you would want to use daily.
 
ELROCK said:
This is not one you would want to use daily.
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i agree. i guess maybe i didn't word it properly? i plan to use it sparingly. i was just curious about running it consecutive days. even say half a serving. i may try that at some point.

so far i've only tried it once at half a scoop. i didn't train. i just wanted to see how i tolerated it. i noticed an uptick in alertness and mood. it wasn't dramatic but it was nice.
 
cfisher52986 said:
It was too soon for a second batch to even be made , it’s only been out for a week. These people probably just want to stand out and be different, or their expectations were too high and they were let down . At the end of the day , it’s a preworkout , not meth .
Looks like 95% of reviews are saying the same type of thing, those bad reviews are an anamoly.
Personally I have nothing to gain standing up for Kill Switch, this is just my opinion after being on those boards for a few years now. Some people don’t respond to certain Pres, and some people are just haters . A lot of people say Excelsior doesn’t do anything either
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There’s photos showing tubs saying 10/26 (rated highly) but the guys complaining about 11/26. Is yours 10 or 11?
 
Maximiliaan said:
There’s photos showing tubs saying 10/26 (rated highly) but the guys complaining about 11/26. Is yours 10 or 11?
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I haven't opened mine yet, but I just checked and it's 11/26. I bought from Nutri-Cartel. They have been selling out right away and then restocking more. I'll try this at somepoint soon, but I'm not going to hurry to buy another tub. Seems like the batches are coming out fast.
 
just checked my tub from nutricartel. 11/26. hmmm. i only tried half a scoop. what i said earlier holds true. but, i'm going to need to try a full scoop. maybe tomorrow.

i may be sending the rest back as soon as they arrive. smh.
 
killswitch I have a mix of 10/26 and 11/26. all dates have different batch numbers.
so far tried 11/26 it hit pretty nice. going to try 10/26 this weekend
 
Maximiliaan said:
There’s photos showing tubs saying 10/26 (rated highly) but the guys complaining about 11/26. Is yours 10 or 11?
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You are correct ! I saw this too . I love a good preworkout batch # scandal 😂
I actually have 1 that is 11/26, and one where the exp and batch were rubbed off , but I think it was from the first run. They actually both hit hard and seem the same to me .
So to answer you , my 11/26 definitely hits hard
 
Long time user of Excelsior here. How does Kill Switch really compare? As far as Energy focus and appetite suppression? I still haven't found anything close to Excelsior. Doomsday Hardcore probably has came the closest.
 
maximumsport said:
Long time user of Excelsior here. How does Kill Switch really compare? As far as Energy focus and appetite suppression? I still haven't found anything close to Excelsior. Doomsday Hardcore probably has came the closest.
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The next closest to excelsior is thermal spark 😂😂😂
 
maximumsport said:
Long time user of Excelsior here. How does Kill Switch really compare? As far as Energy focus and appetite suppression? I still haven't found anything close to Excelsior. Doomsday Hardcore probably has came the closest.
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I agree that Doomsday Hardcore seems like the closest thing (for now) to Excelsior. I suspect that they have the same "active ingredient" based on how they both feel when taken prior to a cardio session along with the presence of some very specific side effects (e.g., unconscious jaw clenching for several hours after the initial effects have worn off). I haven't tried Kill Switch yet.
 
SpicedCider said:
I agree that Doomsday Hardcore seems like the closest thing (for now) to Excelsior. I suspect that they have the same "active ingredient" based on how they both feel when taken prior to a cardio session along with the presence of some very specific side effects (e.g., unconscious jaw clenching for several hours after the initial effects have worn off). I haven't tried Kill Switch yet.
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What effects do you get with them prior to cardio? Not noticed jaw clenching myself but definitely something unusual to them.
 
I got a 6/26 from yesterday in the mail finally.

Took it at 3pm did not sleep at all.....like not at all
This was after taking a full scoop of somatomax and double the melatonin I usually take.
It had been a while since I used thermal or excelsior but I can confidently say this is the strongest batch ive had since I first tried in 2020
 
tstrogo93 said:
I got a 6/26 from yesterday in the mail finally.

Took it at 3pm did not sleep at all.....like not at all
This was after taking a full scoop of somatomax and double the melatonin I usually take.
It had been a while since I used thermal or excelsior but I can confidently say this is the strongest batch ive had since I first tried in 2020
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what product?
purchased in the US?
 
tstrogo93 said:
I got a 6/26 from yesterday in the mail finally.

Took it at 3pm did not sleep at all.....like not at all
This was after taking a full scoop of somatomax and double the melatonin I usually take.
It had been a while since I used thermal or excelsior but I can confidently say this is the strongest batch ive had since I first tried in 2020
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People on here don’t want to hear it but it won’t be anything to do with the batch but the fact you’ve not used it for a long time so you felt it more.
 
maximumsport said:
Long time user of Excelsior here. How does Kill Switch really compare? As far as Energy focus and appetite suppression? I still haven't found anything close to Excelsior. Doomsday Hardcore probably has came the closest.
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Yes, I think Kill Switch is one step up from Doomsday Hardcore. I like both products though and still think Excelsior and thermal spark are better though.
 
Took a full scoop of 11/26 kill switch from nutricartel tonight. Stuff is legit. Definitely something special in there. This doesn’t feel like dmaa or excelsior at all to me which is a good thing. This gives a much cleaner feeling than dmaa without the crash. My only experience with excelsior was the 8/23 batch which gave ridiculous focus that lasted all day but felt dirty and gave a disconnected feeling. Terrible pre workout IMO. It’s only my first serving of kill switch but if the experience continues as it did tonight this will be put up there with smash amf. While both being quite different from each other offer a unique feel that’s different from our typical dmaa, dmha or amp citrate pre that most are use too.
 
Damn man super endurance from Kill Switch 10/26 plus two squirts of XPG Pump-Gel! Took everything I had to leave the gym. Just kept going ready for more sets and reps 💪🏼
 
Anyone that has Kill Switch 10/26 that doesn’t like it DM if interested in a trade. I have pres like Unleashed Yayo, OG Dark Energy (opened), Apollo Pres
 
ELROCK said:
Anyone that has Kill Switch 10/26 that doesn’t like it DM if interested in a trade. I have pres like Unleashed Yayo, OG Dark Energy (opened), Apollo Pres
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I don't have Kill Switch to trade, but how much $$ would you want for the Dark Energy (if willing to sell)?
 
So I purchased a 10/26 from a local store today. Gonna try it in the morning during my Sunday workout. The store I purchased it from has two more 10/26 tubs. I will purchase all the remaining tubs if it is legit.

FYI - it was $34. I hope folks aren’t paying $59 online for this pre that I’ve seen it for. Also, this same store has alpha mood for $33 - my absolute favorite supplement. Alpha mood is the closest supplement to craze I have ever taken. I use it for presentations at work because of the high euphoria I get from it.
 
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SpicedCider said:
I don't have Kill Switch to trade, but how much $$ would you want for the Dark Energy (if willing to sell)?
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It’s opened and a lil clumpy, but still easy enough to dose it. I can send you a pic of it to make sure you want it. I would say it’s about 65% full.
 
I've been out of the loop for a while. I've had all the excelsiors. Anyone with experience in the old batches enjoying the new? Anyone got any old for sale, or a few scoops. I'll pay ya some good money for it.
 
zufir said:
The forbidden mix is phenibut the night before for a good sleep followed by excelsior the next day for a good workout

Feels like phenibut brings back the missing euphoria found in the old excelsior batches
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Haha bro u know the secret. I did excelsior+phenibut for 3 years straight starting in 2019. Phenibut in the morning and excelsior when I get off. I miss that mix more than anything. Would make me cry joy and make music heavenly haha..
 
Sooo @Hockeyman1019 convinced me to try phenibut + excelsior the day of and… I don’t like it. There’s a buzz feeling (like weed) where you feel a bit high and euphoric but everything is slow paced.

It feels like you’re floating but at the same the energy kick you usually get from excelsior is diminished due to the buzz.

It’s a nice vibe if you just want to hang out or take it easy at the gym or do cardio, but I wouldn’t recommend it if you were looking to hit a PR.

Took 1 scoop of somatomax (500-1gb phenibut?) + 2 scoops of excelsior
 
Everybody takes way too much phenibut is the biggest issue with it. It is similar to prescription gabapentin and except it affects both types of gaba receptors instead of just one kind which makes it stronger. For sleep and stuff gabapentin is prescribed at 100-200mgs nightly. I get 250mg phenibut capsules and they work so good. I have gone 4 months straight at 250mgs a night for sleep and never ran into any issues upon discontinuing. However in the past before I learned this (and most supplements have this dosed at near a gram) I struggled to stop it. Poison is in the dose
 
zufir said:
Sooo @Hockeyman1019 convinced me to try phenibut + excelsior the day of and… I don’t like it. There’s a buzz feeling (like weed) where you feel a bit high and euphoric but everything is slow paced.

It feels like you’re floating but at the same the energy kick you usually get from excelsior is diminished due to the buzz.

It’s a nice vibe if you just want to hang out or take it easy at the gym or do cardio, but I wouldn’t recommend it if you were looking to hit a PR.

Took 1 scoop of somatomax (500-1gb phenibut?) + 2 scoops of excelsior
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That's the issue. U need to get pure phenibut, not somatomax with those other ingredients. I can't stand somatomax lol. Phenbut around 11 or 12 am, excelsior at 4 or 5. Boom! Not smart if trying to sleep at night tho lol. Take the excelsior 4 or so hours after u take phenibut. U can take it after eating but I suggest not eating after that for best effects and then hours later the excelsior. Now I did this with the 9/23, 10/22, 2/23, 8/23, and a few of the others that were amazing and were probably different than now and mix with phenibut different too.
 
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zufir said:
Why'd you stop ? haha
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Lol I stopped around 2022-23 daily. At that time i was paying $ 300, 400, and 500+ for old tubs on ebay and friends lmao. I had some samples of the newer a year ago which I still like..but not the same rush. Haven't had since. It was an expensive habit taking 8+ grams of phenibut a day plus 2 or 3+ scoops or excelsior.
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
Lol I stopped around 2022-23 daily. At that time i was paying $ 300, 400, and 500+ for old tubs on ebay and friends lmao. I had some samples of the newer a year ago which I still like..but not the same rush. Haven't had since. It was an expensive habit taking 8+ grams of phenibut a day plus 2 or 3+ scoops or excelsior.
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8 grams of phenibut per day? Are you serious or exaggerating? Thats fuarking loco dude
 
WickedWarlock said:
Everybody takes way too much phenibut is the biggest issue with it. It is similar to prescription gabapentin and except it affects both types of gaba receptors instead of just one kind which makes it stronger. For sleep and stuff gabapentin is prescribed at 100-200mgs nightly. I get 250mg phenibut capsules and they work so good. I have gone 4 months straight at 250mgs a night for sleep and never ran into any issues upon discontinuing. However in the past before I learned this (and most supplements have this dosed at near a gram) I struggled to stop it. Poison is in the dose
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Could you tell me who has 250mg phenibut capsules for sale online? Thank you
 
dvw said:
8 grams of phenibut per day? Are you serious or exaggerating? Thats fuarking loco dude
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I took it everyday lol so my tolerance went up. It was probably more like 10 because i did heaping scoops of the liftmode orange scooper. I was so bored during covid that I started taking excelsior and phenibut daily..worked like a charm but lol. Worked out in my room for hours blasting music and talking to people haha. I miss it lol. Excelsior i was taking daily before, but daily phenibut started when covid hit
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
I took it everyday lol so my tolerance went up. It was probably more like 10 because i did heaping scoops of the liftmode orange scooper. I was so bored during covid that I started taking excelsior and phenibut daily..worked like a charm but lol. Worked out in my room for hours blasting music and talking to people haha. I miss it lol. Excelsior i was taking daily before, but daily phenibut started when covid hit
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Did you have any withdrawals when you stopped?
 
zufir said:
Did you have any withdrawals when you stopped?
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I have had phenibut withdrawal once. Took phenibut daily for 60 days and stopped abruptly. That shite was really fuarking rough. I suspect there's alot of fake phenibut online past few years. Stuff is probably a and b GABA receptor agonist but not actual phenibut. 8 grams of the phenibut I was taking approximately 10 years ago would have knocked you the fuark out for 24 hours with residual effects for another 24 hours while awake. 3 grams of phenibut I had would make me feel intoxicated. Never went past 3 grams myself
 
zufir said:
Did you have any withdrawals when you stopped?
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Ya..it's pretty bad. When I stop suddenly or withdrawl cold turkey like I usually do here are symptoms. Sex drive destroyed, can't get hard and no desire..appetite goes down drastically, itchy..hot but cold too. No desire for gym or anything but to lay in bed Fatigue, no energy. Anxious and depressed. Now im naturally no depressed and positive so I'm able to push through pretty easy..but others could be worse Also phenibut will make u last a long time in bed, so when I was off I would last like 1 minute lmao..she had no idea...one day pornstar the next day virgin haha. It is bad but I've withdrawld so many times that I got used to and could handle it. Come off 8 or more grams cold turkey..I knew what was expected tho. The worst part is the sex drive down, can't get hard, and music doesn't sound as good. Also phenibut makes u a beast in the gym and cardio and social. Just my experience tho.
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
Ya..it's pretty bad. When I stop suddenly or withdrawl cold turkey like I usually do here are symptoms. Sex drive destroyed, can't get hard and no desire..appetite goes down drastically, itchy..hot but cold too. No desire for gym or anything but to lay in bed Fatigue, no energy. Anxious and depressed. Now im naturally no depressed and positive so I'm able to push through pretty easy..but others could be worse Also phenibut will make u last a long time in bed, so when I was off I would last like 1 minute lmao..she had no idea...one day pornstar the next day virgin haha. It is bad but I've withdrawld so many times that I got used to and could handle it. Come off 8 or more grams cold turkey..I knew what was expected tho. The worst part is the sex drive down, can't get hard, and music doesn't sound as good. Also phenibut makes u a beast in the gym and cardio and social. Just my experience tho.
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That’s pretty bad… how long did the symptoms last ?
 
zufir said:
That’s pretty bad… how long did the symptoms last ?
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I did it for so long that the craving/withdrawl lasted a little longer. Ur feeling better after a week or so. I just had to get used to being without it which takes time. It's my favorite drug...besides whatever was in the old excelsior as a close second or first haha. Coming from a meth snorter from time to time lol. I've stopped that..it is too strong as in long lasting and is scary how quickly it changes you. I become paranoid quickly with no sleep. It's not good and as serotonic as what excelsior had. Nothing beats it.
 
Phenibut withdrawal are a myth if you a in shape person with solid healthy confidence. Just keep training, and drink alot of fluid.

Then the "withdrawal" gonna be a few nights with a bit restless sleep. And a bit flat mood that last a little less then a week. Even if you go cold Turkey.

But if you take it for depression and anxiety reasons then i guess it will be a bad ride
 
zufir said:
Sooo @Hockeyman1019 convinced me to try phenibut + excelsior the day of and… I don’t like it. There’s a buzz feeling (like weed) where you feel a bit high and euphoric but everything is slow paced.

It feels like you’re floating but at the same the energy kick you usually get from excelsior is diminished due to the buzz.

It’s a nice vibe if you just want to hang out or take it easy at the gym or do cardio, but I wouldn’t recommend it if you were looking to hit a PR.

Took 1 scoop of somatomax (500-1gb phenibut?) + 2 scoops of excelsior
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Somatomax also has gaba which IME might help sedate you but I’d go with just Phenibut by itself with excelsior if
looking for a strictly mood elevating/euphoric experience.
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
That's the issue. U need to get pure phenibut, not somatomax with those other ingredients. I can't stand somatomax lol. Phenbut around 11 or 12 am, excelsior at 4 or 5. Boom! Not smart if trying to sleep at night tho lol. Take the excelsior 4 or so hours after u take phenibut. U can take it after eating but I suggest not eating after that for best effects and then hours later the excelsior. Now I did this with the 9/23, 10/22, 2/23, 8/23, and a few of the others that were amazing and were probably different than now and mix with phenibut different too.
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Lol read this after commenting but exactly!
 
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