Ergomax LMG/Prostanozol Cycle Log

Weight Gain?

:think: Hey bro any update on weight gain? I know you said you flucuate, but just weigh in the same time every time (for instance at your lightest when on low carb) and you should be able to give a good estimate. I'm curious cause I'm looking at possibly doing the same cycle and want to get to 200lbs (+10lbs) even after PCT.
 
I'll give it a shot. Max it will be a 1 or 2 pound gain so far I am guessing, my main goal is to cut my bodyfat down to your level.. LOL, and keep my weight about the same. Overall I hope to lose about 8 or 9 lbs and add 10 or 11, so I'm not expecting big number changes from the scale. Skim the carb cycling articles real quick and you'll see what my body is going through.
 
nevergoodenough said:
I'm running on 4 hours sleep, worked 6-3 today, came home just pounded a diet rockstar energy drink took some k rala and now I'm out to the gym with hatebreed in my cd player and my improved PWO shake (made with oats not maltodextrin) looking lean as hell today, I'll update with how my workout goes.
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holy **** man

4 hrs, rough stuff bro
 
Anarchy939 said:
those rockstar drinks work for you? For me all they do is make me jittery.
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"KMX" and "Sobe Adrenaline Rush" work well for me pre-workout without much of a jittery feeling. I like to take them on occasion before a heavy leg day! I didn't like the Rock Star when I tried it.

nevergoodenough,

4 hours is brutal man! I wouldn't be worth 2 cents in the gym with that kind of sleep. Again, best of luck with the rest of the cycle.
 
Normally I would have taken the day off but since I'm pretty "enhanced" right now I felt with a little energy my body could take it. And I know I can get a good night sleep tonight which is getting ready to take place here pretty quick.
 
good log, I am looking in to this same cycle as well, two scoops of no-xplode for me and I am amped to the gills............
 
I saw your post on AN.com so I'd stop over here again.

Good log bro. I'm looking to use Prostanazol and guggle for a cutter after a 1-AD/4-AD cycle.

I look forward to your progress!
 
i'll be running pro stan solo soon...very soon... it wont be for weight gain, but i'll keep a log, and will let everyone know what it does for a track guy.
 
Good day yesterday. My repping leg press weight went up 10 pounds. Had a really good leg work out and was looking lean all over. Had a mega cheat meal yesterday: 1 taco bell crunch wrap supreme, a chicken quesadilla, 2 soft tacos, some nachos, a dozen cookies, a frostie, and a cinnabon. Needless to say I'm holding a little bit of water weight from all of the sodium retention. I felt pretty bad after all that food but my body was thanking me for the recharge. This morning I went for a 40 minute walk, today is no carb day so tomorrow morning I should be back to looking good again.
 
Great log man. Im using prostanozol as a part of my cutting stack right now. I have only been on the prostanozol for a few days so I should still have a little while before it kicks in. I wish I would have had a bottle of ergomax to go along with it. I had great sucess bulking with it.

That is pretty messed up about the guy interrupting you in the middle of your set. That is one of my main reasons for training at home. Good luck with the rest of the cycle. Im gonna be following your log. Later, Anthony
 
Its a low carb day so it means back to the gym today for shoulders and traps. I've started to notice a little bit of lethargy recently not feeling as rested when I wake up, I fall asleep faster, and I dont wake up nearly as much in the middle of the night. I have a buttload of sample packs of neurostim I figure I'll down one of those nasty things before I hit the gym so I can get it hard. My chest is looking thicker and fuller and more defined. Arms looking more skulpted, vascularity is up in my biceps and forearms. My arms are measuring a little less than a quarter of an inch bigger than when I started, which is a pleasant surprise. Chest is up almost a half inch. I've really been busting my ass hard in the gym which has really helped. This is my second attempt at a "recomp" and I am very surpirsed by the way this one is turning out, so quickly into it. (My last attempt was with superdrol and trimax, I failed miserably). I'm running short on time so I better make my way to the gym, I'll update tonight with my workout results.
 
I am noticing the same thing. I have been waking up at my normal time but I feel so tired when i wake up. I usually take a few minutes after I wake up to get goin but it has been taking me forever to get my eyes to stay open. Kinda weird feeling. I dont know what to attribute that too but we are both on prostanozol so who knows. I take my e/c stack and im good so im sure the neurostim should help you. That stuff gain me a lot more energy than the e/c when I tried it.


nevergoodenough said:
I've started to notice a little bit of lethargy recently not feeling as rested when I wake up, I fall asleep faster, and I dont wake up nearly as much in the middle of the night. I have a buttload of sample packs of neurostim I figure I'll down one of those nasty things before I hit the gym so I can get it hard. .
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Oh man, please don't tell me prostanozol is making you guys lethargic! I had that problem with superdrol. So much so, I had to quit after 4 weeks(total). Now i'm just saving the rest hoping to stack it with something else at a lower dose in the future. Now I've got a bottle of prostanozol I'm waiting until after PCT to try.
Please keep updating us on your energy levels.
 
FYI festus I have been on Prostanzol for about 4 weeks, and I have had NO lethargy, and hugely increased libido. So there is some positive feedback for ya.




festus said:
Oh man, please don't tell me prostanozol is making you guys lethargic! I had that problem with superdrol. So much so, I had to quit after 4 weeks(total). Now i'm just saving the rest hoping to stack it with something else at a lower dose in the future. Now I've got a bottle of prostanozol I'm waiting until after PCT to try.
Please keep updating us on your energy levels.
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No Lethargy

festus said:
Oh man, please don't tell me prostanozol is making you guys lethargic! I had that problem with superdrol. So much so, I had to quit after 4 weeks(total). Now i'm just saving the rest hoping to stack it with something else at a lower dose in the future. Now I've got a bottle of prostanozol I'm waiting until after PCT to try.
Please keep updating us on your energy levels.
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I am running Prostanazol and SD together at present (75mg and 20mg) - no lethargy to report.. Bloody AWESOME pumps though.. to the extent of pain. Just took a week off gym before the cycle, so can't comment on strength increases as yet.
 
LCSULLA said:
What do feel went wrong with this?
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I think it may have been diet, I was doing a standard "low carb" diet which now that I think about it was a pretty terrible diet, and I'm pretty sure I was getting way to much fats. I ended up not losing as much fat as I would have liked and lost a good amount of muscle too, plus I was hungry all the time. I work much better with things that are more structured like this carb cycling diet where I know what I have to eat and when versus just trying to not eat a lot of carbs.
 
I'm cutting right now so it could just be from the caloric deficit. Cant say its from the prostanozol. I will update in a week or so when it really should be kicking in.
 
Quick update here. Had a solid chest and back workout today I was able to squeeze about 2-3 reps more than I normally can with dbell bench and flyes. I finished out my last exercise working incline to failure on the smith with 135, I was able to get out 4 reps for 3 sets which I was happy with. I switched up my back workout today because I didnt feel like I was getting as sore as I should from the workout. Recovery time is definetly way up after my leg workouts Im usually gimping for a good 3-4 days now by day 2 soreness is really decreased. Had high carbs today, my PPWO meal was a can of wolf turkey chili, man that **** gives me serious gas. Went go jason's deli today and had a sandwich with a salad and some fruit. I cheated a little and had some fat free ice cream that they have there. Got some cardio in tonight as well, walked about 2.5 miles to see some fireworks, and then had to walk the 2.5 to get back. No carbs tomorrow and I gotta work at 6am again (****!), so I'm gonna scarf some cottage cheese and the 50 pills i have to take and go to bed.
 
Question for ALRI

I've been throwing around the idea of buying another bottle of prostanozol and running it for another 4 weeks (solo). I have only done month long cycles in the past and would kind of like to see what a longer cycle could do. Is 8 weeks too long to run prostanozol? The bottle says 4-6 weeks, but Raven said she was going to be on for 2 months. Can I do this and still be safe?
 
Yes you can(I hope its okay with you that I answer this) Prostanozol is not methylated, therefore it is not hard on the liver. So it is just fine to run a cycle for 8weeks should you choose to do so. Keep in mind however, I am running Prostanozol solo.




nevergoodenough said:
I've been throwing around the idea of buying another bottle of prostanozol and running it for another 4 weeks (solo). I have only done month long cycles in the past and would kind of like to see what a longer cycle could do. Is 8 weeks too long to run prostanozol? The bottle says 4-6 weeks, but Raven said she was going to be on for 2 months. Can I do this and still be safe?
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Yes it is prefectly fine that you answer the question, and I really appreciate your answer, it was directed to ALRI not just ALR:cheers: . After I finish the ergomax I will run the prostanozol solo for another 4 weeks (maybe 2 weeks of superdrol), and hopefully with some melting point. Damn am I gonna be lean and rock hard.
 
ATTA BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



nevergoodenough said:
Yes it is prefectly fine that you answer the question, and I really appreciate your answer, it was directed to ALRI not just ALR:cheers: . After I finish the ergomax I will run the prostanozol solo for another 4 weeks (maybe 2 weeks of superdrol), and hopefully with some melting point. Damn am I gonna be lean and rock hard.
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Looks like im gonna order another bottle. I have been thinking about upping the dose or lengthening the cycle to 8 weeks.
 
Opinion

Ant. said:
Looks like im gonna order another bottle. I have been thinking about upping the dose or lengthening the cycle to 8 weeks.
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Dont take this the wrong way. But if Prostan is very close to stanazol then high doses (from my experience) are just fine. I have run up to 150-200mg a day of IM stanazol, with little (as far as I could tell) HPTA issue.. blood pressure went up, but big deal.
Stana just doesnt seem that suppressive... higher dose for the last 4 weeks on a 8 week cycle could be interesting :)
 
RAVEN said:
FYI festus I have been on Prostanzol for about 4 weeks, and I have had NO lethargy, and hugely increased libido. So there is some positive feedback for ya.
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Doesn't the fact that you're a woman kind of make the feedback that your libido is up useless? I'm not an expert but wouldn't any bit of androgen increase your libido a lot....for "us guys" it would take a lot more to show a libido increase. Not that prostanozol doesn't increase libido, but I was just thinking about the "value" of that feedback.

(Sorry to be offtopic in the cycle log btw)
 
thanks for the advice. Im only at the recommended 75mg a day right now. Im probably going to up that to 125 and give it a try. Im definitely going to do 8 weeks.

solarize said:
Dont take this the wrong way. But if Prostan is very close to stanazol then high doses (from my experience) are just fine. I have run up to 150-200mg a day of IM stanazol, with little (as far as I could tell) HPTA issue.. blood pressure went up, but big deal.
Stana just doesnt seem that suppressive... higher dose for the last 4 weeks on a 8 week cycle could be interesting :)
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Had a mediocre leg workout today, I'm going out of town this weekend and I have a lot of school stuff to do right now so my mind wasnt all there. Arms have leaned out a lot, I have never had good delts but due to fat loss they are more visible than they have ever been. Vascularity is picking up in my forearms at all times and not just during workouts. Still have a little bit of stubborn fat over my abs but for me (just like 90% of guys) that is always the last place that goes. I definetly feel harder as well, I'm excited to extend the prostanozol out a few more weeks. I will not be continuing the ergomax for a few reasons, hard on liver, lipids, etc and mainly acne. My forehead and shoulders are really broken out and it is very annoying, I am almost looking forward to being done with the ergomax for that reason alone I feel like I'm 15 again, so anybody looking to take ergomax if you are the least bit prone to acne watch out you will break out.
 
nevergoodenough said:
I will not be continuing the ergomax for a few reasons, hard on liver, lipids, etc and mainly acne. My forehead and shoulders are really broken out and it is very annoying, I am almost looking forward to being done with the ergomax for that reason alone I feel like I'm 15 again, so anybody looking to take ergomax if you are the least bit prone to acne watch out you will break out.
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If you decide to take a bloodtest, that would be HIGHLY appreciated here. I would really want to know how hard is ergo on liver and lipids.
 
I'm not sure if it will be an exact representation because I am taking quite a few protectants. Soya lechithin, polisicanol, fish oil, green tea, and vitamin c, and k rala. So if I'm doing everything right than I should see very little if any elevated numbers. But, the good thing about that is if it works for me and everyone was to take the same pre cautions they could not be affected as well. I should have the results by thursday or friday.

Anyway, I'm about to head off to the gym for bis and tris. I got a test right after that which I have not studied for and dont intend on studying for (its summer who cares!). I am going out of town very early friday morning and I will be gone through the beginning of monday, so my next update wont be til monday. I don't want anybody to think I'm abandoning this log halfway through. I am going to do my absolute best to keep my diet on target, I have come too far to back track.

These past few days I really think the prostanozol has started to kick in I'm leaning out and tightening quite a bit I haven't seen my abs look this good in sooo long. I am very excited to be extending the prostanozol for longer, If I've come this far in 2 weeks imagine how sick I will look after two months! I'm drooling at the thought of myself:thumbsup:. Acne is still really bothersome but for the way I'm looking right now I can put up with it for another 2.5 weeks with the e-max. Everybody who is reading have a good weekend I'm gonna go hit the iron motherfucker!
 
Sounds great bro! I'm waiting for a bulker, but I'm stoked for a cutter after reading your log. I'm gonna pick up some Prostan before it's banned.

Keep up the good work!
 
I'm back

Diet didnt get too out of hand this weekend, I was pretty good about it Friday and saturday, I got a workout in saturday morning with my older brother, 30 minutes incline walking on a treadmill followed by some bicep and forearm training. Sunday I wasnt as good with the diet, but you can only hold on for so long when all you got is goodies all around! Surprisingly enough after only a mediocre diet Sunday morning I was looking incredibly lean a little bit of that backed off this morning after my binge yesterday but I'm abck on no carbs today so tomorrow I should be looking real good. Mediocre diet+prostanozol,e-max=fat loss
good diet+prostanozol, e-max=ripped! I'm kinda tired so I'm gonna kinda lounge around the rest of today, do some homework and maybe grochery shop, in addition to not eating any carbs, I did enough walking around airports today that I dont need cardio. I gave myself a little cushion with taking off work so I'm off tomorrow too, I can get back into my diet and get a good lift in tomorrow. Its couch time for me:poke:
 
I'm getting it done tomorrow morning, I didnt get it done today because I noticed my piss was a little foamy over the weekend which signifies liver stress so I wanted to be back and get my diet and supplementation back on track so the bloodwork would be accurate.
 
JayP said:
Sounds great bro! I'm waiting for a bulker, but I'm stoked for a cutter after reading your log. I'm gonna pick up some Prostan before it's banned.

Keep up the good work!
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WTF? Who said that and when? (Sorry not trying to hijack thread just need a link, if there is one)
 
nevergoodenough said:
I noticed my piss was a little foamy over the weekend which signifies liver stress so I wanted to be back and get my diet and supplementation back on track so the bloodwork would be accurate.
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Foamy urine can mean excess protein in the urine. This can be a sign of a serious kidney problem.
 
Notice that he said "can mean". I've had foamy piss many times before (it seems to subside part way through any cycle though). I get bloodwork done regularly and my BUN is always high. It comes within normal range when I eat like **** for a few days (less protein....more cheap carbs). I wouldn't worry, so long as you are taking in enough water and liver support. If you get bloodwork done regularly, you'll know if anything is majorly wrong. There is no reason to get freaked out about it, just get checked regularly and be level headed with your ancillaries.
 
RAVEN said:
Yes you can(I hope its okay with you that I answer this) Prostanozol is not methylated, therefore it is not hard on the liver. So it is just fine to run a cycle for 8weeks should you choose to do so. Keep in mind however, I am running Prostanozol solo.
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Hello Raven,

Iposted this cycle on another board and would appreciate your opinion.

TIA

Proposed Alri cycle - critique appreciated
I'm planning an eight week cycle as follows:

1-8 ergo 20mgs ed
1-4 MAX 75 mgs ed
5-8 Prostanzonal 75 mgs ed
7-8 Ultra Hot (old formula) 4 caps ed

Other supps

1-8 Creatine Monohydrate - 10 mgs ed
1-8 NAC 1200 mgs ed
1-8 Milk Thistle 350 mgs ed

PCT

9-12 Ultra Hot (new formula) 2 caps ed
9-12 Retain
9-12 NAC 600 mgs ed
9-12 Creatine Monohydrate - 10 mgs ed

Any comments/criticisms would be greatly appreciated.
 
Hey get your own damn thread butthole. I just got back from getting my blood drawn and that motherfucker was not gentle. Im not real concerned about the foamy pee pee, I normally take close to 1 g of K rala daily and over the weekend I didnt bring it with me didnt get enough water and too much caffeine. From what I have read r ala is one of the best liver supports out there and it actually lowered liver values during an M1T cycle. The foaminess has gone done some since I've been back on the k rala and only expect it to get better. We'll see what the blood tells us on Friday. Shoulders and traps workout today, forgot to update after my chest workout but my strength is up quite a bit all arund . I'm gonna go eat I'll update after my workout.
 
I have protein in my urine ever since I got a severe infection many years back. My kidney function is ~70% and I occasionally get foamy urine. I wouldent worry about it too much but get it checked out. If you do have kidney issues I doubt its from anything you are currently taking.
 
colkurtz_spf said:
Hello Raven,

Iposted this cycle on another board and would appreciate your opinion.

TIA

Proposed Alri cycle - critique appreciated
I'm planning an eight week cycle as follows:

1-8 ergo 20mgs ed
1-4 MAX 75 mgs ed
5-8 Prostanzonal 75 mgs ed
7-8 Ultra Hot (old formula) 4 caps ed

Other supps

1-8 Creatine Monohydrate - 10 mgs ed
1-8 NAC 1200 mgs ed
1-8 Milk Thistle 350 mgs ed

PCT

9-12 Ultra Hot (new formula) 2 caps ed
9-12 Retain
9-12 NAC 600 mgs ed
9-12 Creatine Monohydrate - 10 mgs ed

Any comments/criticisms would be greatly appreciated.
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Looks good except I think you mean 10g of creatine monohydrate daily?

I would also add some kALA as the thread is quite correct on its benefits.

Last lad, please start a new thread when you wish to change subjects. It also makes it easier for me or one of our staff to see it rather than happen on to it.

Thanks!
ALR
 
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