I've seen permanent shutdown advertised with anything they had a 19nor on it, like deca, but I've heard this has more to do with a rise in progesterone continuing and keeping you shut off, Trest does not have the same effect on progesterone (correct me here if wrong) I know it can but not like it's cousins from what I've read. I've read a scientific study that said minimal binding to progesterone receptors, despite its 19nor. . Then a very non scientific article saying "strongly binds". Sigh. Conflicting information on hormone chemistry and AAS on the internet... No way!!!! Lol. Whatever I've got a boner when I wake up and crazy libido. Not the issues you hear about with tren/deca. BP is great, can get boner, no real acne or mood swings, not holding onto water anymore since the beginning and a dose of letro, not a progesterone issue currently for me... Correct assumption? Them I should recover in the normal SERM AI PCT fashion.
Actually I read a lot off stuff and deca and tren pop up a lot about poor recovery. I see people complaint about Trest too but less on the, I can't recover, and more on the on cycle sides.
Some folks say it'll happen with any AAS use. I dunno about this permanent bit,. I've been reading all morning and it seems like it was considered as a birth control medication for a bit, but they list "implant" which makes me think that permanent isn't really true or they'd just hit you with one big dose all at once and call it a day. Wikipedia says that it was constant administration of doses over 50mg. There are chemical agents that will destroy balls in a single dose but they've not been used since people practiced eugenics in the early 1900's around the world .... thankfully. (Shivers scary **** that).
Also don't worry much about what company was selling it. I think it's all gone from manufacturers like OL. Perhaps an overseas pharma will get you the IM type. But I think it's done now. I think it's technically in violation of that law.
I've been known to over do it remember? =) And so this applies to actually preparing for PCT as well. I've got a big stock of PCT meds, all pharma, caber and prami, letrozole (emergency measure) clomid, and Nolva, and even some HCG in the fridge in case of serious atrophy at the end of the cycle (which hasn't happened so far and so it might have been a waste, it probably won't survive until my next cycle months if not more down the line) all of which says I'll probably recover fine and/or at least partially.
... These are the same drug basically right? MENT usually described as injectable acetate for whatever reason versus trestolone usually being used to describe the oral or transdermal stuff. That's just cause chemists can never decide how they are going to name ****. The chemical names are different but wiki had both listed as being the same drug.
This was one cycle I read and read about, even though I jacked up the dose initially (and
habajaba can prove that it didn't hit him so hard, but leveled me immediately so getting dose advice on the nets was not a great idea, start low should be my motto) so I though I understood the issues that could potentially crop up.
Sorry, end rant /
