Epistane/Transdermal Trest Ace cycle

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starting to get diced up in this one! hows the trest @ 60 treating u?
 

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starting to get diced up in this one! hows the trest @ 60 treating u?
Loving it!! PRs every workout. The night sweating has returned even eating two slices of bread before bed to try to keep blood sugar up. Usually sweat through one tshirt a day, but that is my only side.

I have been following a cyclical ketogenic diet with the goal of adding muscle and losing body fat simultaneously. Monday through Saturday late afternoon eat about 1500 to 1700 calories with carbs limited to about 50 grams a day (my maintenance is about 3000 calories), then Saturday evening through Sunday night I do a carb refeed and eat at about 75 percent ABOVE maintenance. Gonna assess on my weigh in with the body fat scale this Saturday if this approach has been successful in adding muscle or if it has simply slowed my fat loss due to the excess calories at the end of the week. Wasn’t it you that said you had success on Trest running a cyclical ketogenic diet?
 
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yes absolutely! you should be able to super comp each weekend. allowing you to make room in the muscles for growth. the calories sound pretty low but your pics show its working just fine for you~
 

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Ya for some reason I have to go real low on the calories. Just eat a ton of vegetables, high fiber Quest protein bars, and water to fight off hunger. When the weekend comes and it is high carb day over maintenance it is like being in heaven lol!
 
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just remember to key points..
sunday evening= sugar crash.
monday-tuesday = trace carbs only. dont eat a bunch of veggies until later in the week.

i always did a full body high volume sesh on friday afternoon after a banana to start the total glycogen depletion prior to the carb up.
 

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just remember to key points..
sunday evening= sugar crash.
monday-tuesday = trace carbs only. dont eat a bunch of veggies until later in the week.

i always did a full body high volume sesh on friday afternoon after a banana to start the total glycogen depletion prior to the carb up.
The only thing that stinks is due to my lower calorie consumption I’m not able to eat much fat. I need to get a gram of protein in per pound of body weight so I eat like 200 grams of protein, 50 grams or so of carbs, and only about 65 to 70 grams of fat so it is not a true “ketogenic diet” since it has more protein than fat. Would it even make a difference though as long as my carbs are low to deplete glycogen? It is crazy, after my weekend refeed my weight shoots up like 6 pounds from glycogen retention than by the time Saturday rolls around I have lost most of that.
 

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End of week 7.5. Will be dropping Epistane this Tuesday. Decided to extend the blast beyond the planned 8 weeks to up to 12 to a 16 week blast (if strength gains cease at any point I will end the cycle no matter how few weeks have passed as I think there are very diminishing returns outside of nutrient portioning if you aren’t getting stronger from week to week from the compounds). After week 8 will be running only the transdermal Trest, transdermal SR 9009, and will be adding in Ultra Hard (this is a transdermal Epiandro/Androsterone combo). The ultra hard will serve as another dry DHT compound to replace the methylated Epistane and hopefully function as a make shift AI for the Trest to keep high estrogen sides from developing just like the Epistane did.

Up another pound and a half this week. My consecutive record streak of setting PRs on every training session remains unbroken this week. I am Very impressed at the strength gains and am interested to see how much of this continues when just running the Trest with the Andros. As actually losing weight on Trest seems damn near impossible I have decided to try to change this more from a cut to a recomp by upping my calories Monday through Saturday about another 600 a day. Additonal calories will be coming mainly from peanuts as I still want to keep carbs very low Monday through Friday at about 50 to 60 grams a day and then do high carb days on Saturday and Sunday at roughly twice maintenance levels.
 
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i love that combo at the end of the cycle.. it will indeed make you stronger each work out it seems like. not sure about the ai properties being strong enough to control estro though.
 

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i love that combo at the end of the cycle.. it will indeed make you stronger each work out it seems like. not sure about the ai properties being strong enough to control estro though.
Thanks. I have Arimidex and Ralox on hand in case, but hopefully the andro hard will suffice.
 

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i love that combo at the end of the cycle.. it will indeed make you stronger each work out it seems like. not sure about the ai properties being strong enough to control estro though.
if I do get estro sides i would prefer to use Ralox, rather than Arimidex since it is more lipid friendly. Do you think Ralox would be as effective or at least sufficent?
 

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Last day of Epistane was Tuesday so had lipids and liver bloodwork done yesterday. Will be getting labs again in 4 weeks after I am done with cycle as well after finishing Trest and Ultrahard.

For lipids, I feel the SR 9009 helped as both LDL, total cholesterol, and Triglycerides were all in range, however HDL was whacked hard going below 20 to 18 which is tied for the lowest ever I have recorded on cycle. For liver only a couple readings were SLIGHTLY out of range after 8 weeks of Epistane which is methylated so I feel the TUDCA and NAC did their job nicely.


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End of week 8.5. Weight is the same, but dropped one percent body fat. Overall since I began I am up 5 and a half pounds, but at the same body fat as I started. Ended the Epistane Tuesday. Decided will be ending this cycle after 12 weeks due to upcoming trt doctor ordered bloodwork in December.

Started Ultra Hard on Wednesday. Have noticed a definite jump in libido since
starting. Also, no estrogen sides from the 60 mg Trest, thus I think running a DHT with Trest appears to be a good combo. ( I should note for the entire cycle I have also been running 200 mg DIM a day to help control estrogen sides as well as Calcium Glucarate).

Set PRs each workout this week again. Interested to see if this will continue despite stopping the Epistane. Night sweats have
been bad, but partially because I have stopped eating the two slices bread before bed during the week to keep carbs down. One side I did have that I failed to mention previously was an acidic stomach from the Epistane. Methylated roids always do that to me so it is nothing alarming and a couple Pepcid Completes always keeps it from getting unbearable. 3 and a half weeks left in the cycle!
 

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End of week 9.5. Up almost another pound, but will be abandoning the cyclical ketogenic diet for a more traditional cut diet. Just not noticing the fat loss as much since starting the keto diet I think mainly due to the weekend refeeds being nearly twice maintenance and consisting of mainly high glycemic carbs in massive quantities.

My streak of days with consecutive PRs came to an end on Tuesday’s workout, but a new streak has started on Wednesday through Friday so far. No estrogen sides since switching to Ultra Hard from Epistane and have also noticed a nice libido increase with the switch as well.

Gonna try to finish the last 3 weeks strong with a more cleaner cut! 💪
 
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Fuk I love the PRs on a blast. Even more satisfying when youre in a kcal deficit and remember as a natty there was no fawkin way youd be PRing deep in a cut.
 

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