Epistane Problem

EasyEJL said:
Yeah, its a pity. The only true OTC PCTs right now that have real promise are high dose resveratrol based stuff. Dermacrine Sustain, Post Cycle Support, 6-oxo extreme or any of the straight resveratrol products. I'm still not sure I would suggest these to anyone else, but I'm planning on dermacrine sustain without a SERM for my upcoming cycle. I'll have a serm on hand tho in case the poop hits the oscillating blades. I'll also be doing a pre-cycle and post-post cycle therapy blood tests and if the post is still low i'll do a light nolva round then.
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Sounds interesting...do us all a favor and log that, would ya?
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
So, would you then assume its possible that at high doses epi can aromatize?
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H no! And at high doses, the gonadotropic effect of Epi won't last long, so excessive estrogen production secondary to elevated test levels should not be the prob either.

Gyno seems to be over diagnosed on the boards these days. You would know if you had it, you don't have to ask. You'd be reminded just putting your shirt or if somebody bumped into you, because it freakin' hurts! There are degrees of course, but it's unmistakable, that itch.
 
I have had itchy breastisiz a few times in my life but no gyno, I think my nipples were just dry n crusty :toofunny:

I have one 'innie' and one 'outie'

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
DR.D said:
It's simple, some compounds have a longer than average half-life (Anadrol-50 for example) so you can take it all pre-w/o for the strength and focus and still have high enough levels in your body for the glycogen loading and anabolism post-w/o too. It's all about anabolic windows and half-life's.

Remember, you really don't need an anabolic on off days just to load 50g of protein in your system every 4hrs. Mostly just an anti-cortisol (or high, frequent calories) to discourage catabolism while you repair in that off time. Max anabolism happens just after training. If anybody wants to disagree, I challenge them to skip their post w/o meal and tell me what happens! No way, right? That would be post-w/o suicide. Way worst than missing a meal the next day, no doubt about it.
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So with that said D, would the perfect setup be:

1. Take full dose of Epistane pre w/o

2. Have a shake soon as your done

3. Have a solid food meal one hour later.

4. What about kwcks idea of pre bed dose because of the anabolism while sleeping?

Thanks as always for your insight,

Neoborn
 
Hmm...its just strange because there does seem to be a trend of people getting gyno (self-purported of course) with doses between 40-60mg/day.

But, I guess it does seem hard to fathom how epi could aromatize based off of its structure.
 
neoborn said:
I have had itchy breastisiz a few times in my life but no gyno, I think my nipples were just dry n crusty :toofunny:

I have one 'innie' and one 'outie'

Much Love,

Neoborn
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I've had gyno since I was like 13...its not "bad" but its def. exaggerated with my extra fat and my nips are always sensitive (sometimes super sensitive, other times hardly at all). Its a pain in the ass.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
I've had gyno since I was like 13...its not "bad" but its def. exaggerated with my extra fat and my nips are always sensitive (sometimes super sensitive, other times hardly at all). Its a pain in the ass.
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I am not in anyway making fun or poking at those with this condition, I sympathize truly for your pain and suffering. I wish, truly nothing but health, wealth and long life for you all!

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
Damage already done, now I know you're an *******....wait a minute, that's just the estrogen talking. Don't worry about it. :D
 
I'm in the exact same boat kwycke (minus the sensitivity) and it definitely is a pain in the ass.. but i don't think i'll ever get to the point where it would bother me so much to have it cut out.. don't like the knife cutting me or my money :run:
 
neoborn said:
So with that said D, would the perfect setup be:

1. Take full dose of Epistane pre w/o

2. Have a shake soon as your done

3. Have a solid food meal one hour later.

4. What about kwcks idea of pre bed dose because of the anabolism while sleeping?

Thanks as always for your insight,

Neoborn
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Yes x 4. :) The pre bed dose requires extra evasive measures to discourage suppression though.

Stop touching your nipples Neo! You didn't think I knew did you? j/k :D
 
No sensitivity? Without the sensitivity I'd wonder how much of it is just fat deposits (pseudogyno), honestly. Gyno is usually pretty sensitive.
 
DR.D said:
Yes x 4. :) The pre bed dose requires extra evasive measures to discourage suppression though.

Stop touching your nipples Neo! You didn't think I knew did you? j/k :D
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What kind of extra evasive measures? What if you take the pre bed dose with your HDX2, good enough?

Have you seen Kwcks latest thread D? : http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/75174-taking-orals-during.html

On the record, just so you know I hate my nipples being tweaked / touched etc ....it's not my thing, you can ask my wife she'll back me up on this...:D

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Much Love,

Neoborn
 
I'm kinky enough to want to have my nips tortured while I bang, but unfortunately my sensitive nipples have left me with testicle torture as the only option--I like variety, so this is sad :sad:
 
hmm i never knew that it was commonly sensetive? I thought pubertal gyno didn't work that way ..

yeah so maybe.. it feels like a little glandular thing but i've never really cut down bf low enough to where i could completely tell.. i def got the puffy nips (yeah i just said that :lol:) but i guess you could be right! well i guess that's my cue to continue this cut down low enough to where that sh*t either melts off (and you are right) or it doesn't go anywhere! (and i suck :thumbsup:) haha we will see!
 
You guys are great. :) Were else can I spend my evenings hearing other men discuss their nipple and testicle fetishes, and not feel like a total homo? :lol: Not to mention Chad's goat sex fantasies. :whip:
 
Red Dog said:
hmm i never knew that it was commonly sensetive? I thought pubertal gyno didn't work that way ..

yeah so maybe.. it feels like a little glandular thing but i've never really cut down bf low enough to where i could completely tell.. i def got the puffy nips (yeah i just said that :lol:) but i guess you could be right! well i guess that's my cue to continue this cut down low enough to where that sh*t either melts off (and you are right) or it doesn't go anywhere! (and i suck :thumbsup:) haha we will see!
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When pubertal gyno "goes away" usually the tissue follows.

You could have legit gyno (not just pseudogyno); keep on cutting down the BF and let us know how your tits look when ur done.
 
DR.D said:
You guys are great. :) Were else can I spend my evenings hearing other men discuss their nipple and testicle fetishes, and not feel like a total homo? :lol: Not to mention Chad's goat sex fantasies. :whip:
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You mean you don't feel like a homo right now?
 
neoborn said:
What kind of extra evasive measures? What if you take the pre bed dose with your HDX2, good enough?

Have you seen Kwcks latest thread D? : http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/75174-taking-orals-during.html

On the record, just so you know I hate my nipples being tweaked / touched etc ....it's not my thing, you can ask my wife she'll back me up on this...:D

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Much Love,

Neoborn
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Grrrrrrrrraaaa! That's a dinosaur sound. :thumbsup: (I have a 3 yo)

Oh yes, that bedtime dose of anti-e is the most important one! First thing in the AM is second best.

Dude, I'm gonna ask your wife about the nipple thing and we'll she if she backs you up or not.
 
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