Epistane/Mestebol/(maybe) Trestobol. Strength Athlete Log

[Waltyf]

I have Epi and Mest on hand but am contemplating adding in a "trest" base. Main concerns are dry joints from the Epi/Mest.

If adding in Trest, will run it low because I am prone to gyno sides. -Will also have an AI on hand. Formeron?

Do you guys think the Trest is necessary? This will be used as a recomp cycle with my focus on strength gains.

Heres what I am looking at:

Celtic Labs (CL) Epi 50/50/50/50/50/50 (my sweet spot)
CL Mest 140/140/140/140/140/140
if added CL Trest 30/30/30/30/30/30

Nolva: 20 20 10 10
+ staple PCT OTC supps and Formeron

My original thoughts were to add Mest to either Epi or Halo to help combat lethargic and libido sides, adding Trest seems like it may be overkill but I would like your opinions.

I do not compete but do train similar to how I used to, biggest differences is having a full time job so less time is invested

Stats:
27
5'10''
95kg

Back Squat 250kg
Front Squat 215kg
Dead 260kg
Bench 170kg
Overhead 105kg

 

[Waltyf]

Sorry for the log post, Ill sum it up here. With the information above, what do you think of an Epi/Mest cycle with no Trest added to it? Could it be done happily?

 

[edje007]

The trest would be too low. 30 is nothing, 50 at a minimum.

Not sure about the mestebol. Haven't heard to many positive things about it.

Epi is sweet...Can't go wrong there.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I'll definitely follow your log, no matter what you decide to run. I love heavy weights. Do you compete in powerlifting or weightlifting?

Formeron is IMO the best OTC AI out there for on cycle purposes. I love it.

Check the link in my sig for more affordable trest clone. One bottle equals to three bottles of Celtic Trestobol.

 

[Waltyf]

What are your suggestions on dosing the Trest? Primarily to avoid the negative sides from Epi but not high enough to create stronger sides from the Trest?

Tr3st ran at 50 for 6 weeks sufficient to yield gains and keep lethargic and limp dick at bay?

I used to compete in weightlifting but stopped a few years ago. I train/coach now, can't get away from it.

Thanks for your help. Lets get this started.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

What are your suggestions on dosing the Trest? Primarily to avoid the negative sides from Epi but not high enough to create stronger sides from the Trest?

Tr3st ran at 50 for 6 weeks sufficient to yield gains and keep lethargic and limp dick at bay?

I used to compete in weightlifting but stopped a few years ago. I train/coach now, can't get away from it.

Thanks for your help. Lets get this started.

50mg/day is probably good for that purpose. You can always up it to 75mg/day if you feel like it, one bottle will be enough for that too.

Spread those caps evenly throughout the day and don't take right before bed. Fast acting androgens like TR3ST may disturb your sleep a bit.

 

[drinkyboy]

Have you ran epi before? Epi and halo are my go-to choices. The strength gains from epi are fantastic imo.

 

[Waltyf]

Do you suggest running the AI the entire time or only having on hand?
How quick is the kick for Tr3st?
Ive read where the shut down is pretty intense, this will be my first cycle with some real potential shut down……….

Thanks for all your help

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Do you suggest running the AI the entire time or only having on hand?
How quick is the kick for Tr3st?
Ive read where the shut down is pretty intense, this will be my first cycle with some real potential shut down……….

Thanks for all your help

It's about personal preference. I'm one of those who don't use AI's until I feel that I need it.. But you could run Formeron at 1-2 pumps/day since the day one and up it if needed.

TR3ST kicks in damn quick. Many guys are saying that they can feel it after one dose. It's great pre-workout.

 

[Waltyf]

Yes I have ran both, I totally agree. I have been waiting to run epi again for a while. I really enjoyed the epi/stano I ran a couple years ago but the dryness of my old joints got pretty intense. How did you handle these sides?

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Yes I have ran both, I totally agree. I have been waiting to run epi again for a while. I really enjoyed the epi/stano I ran a couple years ago but the dryness of my old joints got pretty intense. How did you handle these sides?

I've never experienced any joint pains with Epi, just some lethargy back in the days when I ran it solo. TR3ST will help your joints, wet compounds usually do. I have ran trest once and didn't experience any side effects at all (I was on TRT dose of test and Formeron).

M1,4ADD has been the worst compound I've ever tried in terms of side effects. It gave me gyno.

 

[Mystere3]

If you're mostly going for strength I'd and want to help with lethargy, add stano to epi. For a bulking cycle I'd toss in tr3st.