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Epistane & M-Drol Bridge Log....Let the games begin!

Hey guys, Here's a quick update on my 5HTP experiment. It does not seem to lessen the aggression I feel on the methadrol, but it definitely helps my mood. So I'm still agressive, but I'm happy. It's made the second half of the cycle much more tolerable. Between the fatigue and the moodiness, I was having a pretty tough time until I started the 5HTP.

Gymaddict, I'm thrilled to continue hearing good reports about your cycle. I'm almost ready to start bridging into the epistane. Have some formex on the way that I'm going to run with it because it seems to have anti-hair loss qualities for some users.
 
raven00 said:
Your pct says Nolva...now do you mean real nolvadex? and even if you did, I don't think thats enough. You should pick up Lean Xtreme its a cortisol blocker and stimulant free fat burner, great for PCT cus cortisol is the stress hormone that builds up. I would do hcg, lean xtreme and nolvadex for pct

And next time u do a cycle pick up AI cycle support, has everything for liver prostate, blood, just a great product. I will be using that for when i run this.
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Yes I will be running the real Nolvadex. I am running NP Cycle Support now. I will look into picking up some Lean Xtreme this afternoon when I place another order for some more PH to add to my stock. I do not have access to HCG though. Any other suggestions?
 
Update

Been a bit tough to hit the gym these past few days. Everything has been closed due to the Holiday around here. I have been doing your basic prison workout with the "Perfect Push-ups, Chin up bar, Heavy bag, Tred mill and some dumb bells to get me by. I will hit the gym again tonight very hard after work. I am up 20lbs weight in which I do give credit to Thanksgiving dinner lol. I am hoping to keep atleast 12lbs of it after my cycle is complete. One of my fellow meat head buddies came home and said I have gotten a lot bigger than 2 months ago when he saw me last.

Sides: Edgy, Irritable and very aggressive. I lost my temper the night before Thanksgiving because some drunk f**k grabbed my girls a**. Needless to say I couldn't calm down the rest of the night (no I was not drinking). Not as Lethargic as I was when I was on the M-drol. I do still have the overall feeling of well being. My has been up again as well.

This is my last week of Epi and will be running it again at 40mg. Sunday night I will start to run my Nolva. I planned on running the Nolva at 40/20/20/10. I will also continue the support supps through and after my PCT. Should I continue to run the DHEA during PCT?
 
mvrk1 said:
Hey guys, Here's a quick update on my 5HTP experiment. It does not seem to lessen the aggression I feel on the methadrol, but it definitely helps my mood. So I'm still agressive, but I'm happy. It's made the second half of the cycle much more tolerable. Between the fatigue and the moodiness, I was having a pretty tough time until I started the 5HTP.

Gymaddict, I'm thrilled to continue hearing good reports about your cycle. I'm almost ready to start bridging into the epistane. Have some formex on the way that I'm going to run with it because it seems to have anti-hair loss qualities for some users.
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The aggression is much easier to control when on the Epi and off the Superdrol. Epi gives you an overall feeling of well being. When you do get mad though watch out because it hard to calm back down. Let me know how the Formex while on cycle works out for you.
 
gymaddict20 said:
I lost my temper the night before Thanksgiving because some drunk f**k grabbed my girls a**. Needless to say I couldn't calm down the rest of the night (no I was not drinking).
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AAS or not - if a dude grabbed my girls ass.....lets just say I'd be going to jail.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
AAS or not - if a dude grabbed my girls ass.....lets just say I'd be going to jail.
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LOL i wouldnt go that far, i would be like yeap you know its good huh!! hahaha

but damn 20 lbs...i hope u keep more then just 12 of it, but still thats 12 lbs that you would never have gotten in like 2 months thats for sure.
 
raven00 said:
LOL i wouldnt go that far, i would be like yeap you know its good huh!! hahaha

but damn 20 lbs...i hope u keep more then just 12 of it, but still thats 12 lbs that you would never have gotten in like 2 months thats for sure.
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F**k that. Why would I cheer some dude on while he grabbed my girls a**? I almost broke his face off the end of the bar! Lucky for him the owner and the bouncers are all buddies of mine. They grabbed me and threw the guy out after I started swinging. Cheers TheDarkHalf, I know you understand!!!!!

Yea, i would love to keep more than 12lbs of it but I have put on a little bit of fat so I will be more than happy retaining 12lbs of it.
 
Nice to hear. I think you will be surprised about how much you keep during and after pct. That's the whole point to running the cycle this way. Make lots of gains at the beginning then help solidify them with the bridging compound. Yeah u will add to the gains but at a much slower rate. But the extra tomes allows fir time for you body to adjust.

Yes some is fat... But your bulking. Keep the diet going through pct and after. Don't be one of those guys that trys to cut the fat right away. Because all that new muscle can also easily disappear. That's a lot of peoples mistake. They want to drop the fat right away and u can't do that. I have seen so many post about cutting after a cycle. Just not smart.

Glad u had solid gains with cycle and diet :)
 
Update

Chest last night. Saw an increase in strength and a great pump.

Sides: Easily irritable but am walking around in a decent mood if that makes any sense. I had trouble sleeping last night and my balls are very sore. I feel like my hormones are off the wall today. My moods are up and down like crazy. Appetite is still up. It seems I just can't eat enough food.

I will be maintaining my diet through my PCT and after. I made the mistake before of cutting right away and lost quite a bit of gains from a previous cycle. I picked up some Lean Xtreme to run during my PCT as well.

Ran into a bit of a problem this morning. I walked into my room after getting out of the shower to find my Pit bull had eaten a bottle of Havoc and all my Nolva that I had for my PCT. My source for actual Nolva dried up. Does anyone know the legalities with ordering research chemicals? I am going to have to pick some up in a hury depending on the legal crap. (I am not asking for a source here, just want to know if there are legal issues)

Any help on this ASAP would be greatly appreciated.
 
UPDATE

Shoulders - Hit the gym hard once again and beat my shoulders up pretty good. Great pump yet again.

Sides: Still having mood swings like crazy. Always thirsty and hungry. Didn't sleep too good last night. Irritable but over all I am walking around in a good mood. My balls are still sore.

I have a total of 3 days left on the Epistane. Overall I am very happy with my gains. As I stated yesterday my dog ate all the Nolva I had for my PCT along with a bottle of Havoc. Any input on the legalities of research chemicals would be great right about now.
 
Maybe you should start a new thread someplace where it will attract attention from somone that might have the knowledge you need.
 
Hi there!!

Does anyone know if Finasteride is really efficient when it comes to M-Drol?

Does anyone know if it is effective of just a waste and I shouldn’t even bother to use it?
 
UPDATE

Tri's - Great workout last night. I am still seeing some gains from the Epi. It seems like I could just workout for hours on end.

Sides - Didnt sleep real well again last night. I was quite irritated yesterday but it all credited to a great workout at the gym. Constantly thirsty and hungry. Still very irritable and the mood swings have seem to gotten worse. I havent really had any problems with the back / calf pumps at all this cycle.

I happend to come across 60ml Tamoxifen/Clomiphene Citrate. This should be more than efficent for my PCT along with the Jack3d, Lean Xtreme and the new workout program. Any suggestions on how I should run this?
 
Usually I like to dose my serm higher for the first few days and then slowly taper off over the next few weeks. As I taper off the serm I introduce my test booster, cortisol, PCS, etc. I start creatine and pre-WO the day after my last day on my compound for the cycle.
 
UPDATE

Back and Bi's

When I took Epi before I always saw the most gains in my 4th week @ 40mg and it is still holding true. Seeing a noticable difference in strength and hardness more now than the past few weeks. I beat my back and bi's up last night real good. The pump was amazing! I am still up roughly 20lbs as well. I found myself being very angry last night in the gym but it made my workout that much better.

Sides: Still not sleeping well at night. Thirsty like crazy. Kinda of odd but my appetite was down yesterday afternoon and last night. That never happens. Mood swings seem to be getting a bit worse. Haven't had any lethargy since I bridged completely into the Epi from the M-drol. My PCT will begin on Sunday.

PCT:
Tamoxifen/Clomiphene Citrate - 40/20/20/10 (still working on the the details of the conversion from ml to mg)
Jack3d
Lean Xtreme
Natty Test Booster
Cycle Support for my support supps

I am also debating running HGHup by AppNut as well. It is NOT a PH and has had great reviews. I have seen a lot of recomendations to run it as part of PCT. Any suggestions on the HGHup or my PCT are more than welcome.
 
Been running hghup almost with second bottle and really enjoy it. Take 5 before bed and love the deep crazy dream sleep I get. Have been looking at cjc and other peptides to use with it. Wantvto run a cycle with it and mauve some cjc1295 and ghrp6
 
Been running hghup almost with second bottle and really enjoy it. Take 5 before bed and love the deep crazy dream sleep I get. Have been looking at cjc and other peptides to use with it. Wantvto run a test cycle with it and some some cjc1295 and ghrp6
 
Liftingstud said:
Been running hghup almost with second bottle and really enjoy it. Take 5 before bed and love the deep crazy dream sleep I get. Have been looking at cjc and other peptides to use with it. Wantvto run a test cycle with it and some some cjc1295 and ghrp6
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I have heard that the deep sleep and dreams are insane on it. Haven't heard anything bad about it really,. Are you seeing any sides? Do you think it is ok to run with my PCT or should I wait?
 
Oh crap man, lost ur nolva wtf!! haha well at least u came across the tam. Still up 20 thats great to hear. I'm still waiting to take this, got about a month until i start. These are great results man i hope u like the end look man, post pics too :)
 
raven00 said:
Oh crap man, lost ur nolva wtf!! haha well at least u came across the tam. Still up 20 thats great to hear. I'm still waiting to take this, got about a month until i start. These are great results man i hope u like the end look man, post pics too :)
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Thanks for your support. I will be posting up some pics pretty soon.
 
UPDATE
I am on day two of my PCT. I came across a blend of Clomid and Nolva. I will be running the pct as follows:

Clomid-100/100/100/100
Nolva-020/020/020/020
Lean Extreme
Jack3d
Sizeon
hawthrone berry
milk thistle

Sides:Feeling a bit lethargic today. Still having trouble sleeping at night.Still having some mood swings.

I will be hitting the gym in an hour or so.
 
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This is the best I could get with my phone. I have gained some fat during the cycle and my abs are no longer existant...for now!
 
UPDATE

Chest

Had some great intensitity in the gym again last night. Had some good pumps too which I believe is credited to the jack3d.

Sides: Very lethargic, still having mood swings and am irritable. Havent been sleeping sound at night but will be running HGHup shortly and that should help. My appitite has been down for some reason even before I stopped the Epi.

Any input or suggestions?
 
UPDATE

Shoulders

I must say how impresed with the jack3d I am. That stuff is amazing. Incredible pumps from it and I feel great.

Sides: I have been feeling great. No more lethargy and havnt had any mood swings yesterday or today.

I spoke with Unrealmachine. I am going to change up my pct dosing a bit. 100mg of clomid seems to be too much all the way through, I have Clomiphene 50mg/ml Tomoxifen Citrate 10mg/ml blend.

I will be running 2ml the first week like I have which will equate to 100mg of clomid and 20mg of nolva. Then for the reamining weeks I will take 1ml which will equate to 50mg clomid and 10mg of nolva

Next week I will also be starting the HGHup and am prepairing to use the blast your bench program. I am still up 20lbs so we will see what is to come.
 
Nice log man! Try to get some better pics up, you deserve it after all that hard work bro! Get a girl to do it after a nice long f*%$ session!!:)
 
sweet..im halfway through this same run, already gained roughly 15lbs. my shirts are streching, and i still have 3 weeks to go! awesome stack...and you def. inspire me with your bench strength. time to start stacking the plates on.
 
I hope I respond well to Hdrol, I am stacking it with Mdrol. I also hope to get similar results! Wilsmash, do you have a log up?
 
wilsmash4food said:
sweet..im halfway through this same run, already gained roughly 15lbs. my shirts are streching, and i still have 3 weeks to go! awesome stack...and you def. inspire me with your bench strength. time to start stacking the plates on.
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Thanks man. I remember seeing your log, how is your back doing? The fun is just beginning for you. Hit it hard! I must say your signature is so very true! lol
 
boxrocker said:
I hope I respond well to Hdrol, I am stacking it with Mdrol. I also hope to get similar results! Wilsmash, do you have a log up?
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I have run a M-drol / H-drol stack before. I ran Cyclo Bolan which was the same thing. I saw some great results from it but the M-drol / Epi bridge is by far the best cycle I have ever done. I will have some better picture up soon.
 
UPDATE

Back

Beat my back up pretty good last night. Great pumps and felt amazing. I cant say enough good things about Jack3d. The stuff is amazing.

After a kick a*$ workout I went into the highscool wrestling practice. It was insane! My back workout put my right in the zone to throw people around. Made me really think about how much I miss wrestling in highschool and college. I am sorer than a virgin from it today.

Tomorrow will be the moment of truth for me. I am putting my bench shirt on and going to max out. I could rep 315lbs before raw without the shirt. I am looking forward to seeing what I have gained from the cycle.

Sides: My lethargy is gone and mood swings weren't a problem. Haven't really had a problem these past two days. I have been sleeping a lot better as well. My aggression is still there but I am an angry person in general lol.

I am running 2ml of Clomiphene & Tomaxofiene which equates to 100mg clomid & 20mg nolva. I will be dropping it down to 1ml starting on Saturday to finish out the remaining three weeks.
 
UPDATE

Still up 20lbs!

Bi's - We got a snow storm yesterday and everything was closed but I still managed to get in a good workout at my house.

Sides: None. Have been feeling great. My libido is still ok and I still havent lost any weight. I am running a natty test booster as part of my pct and everything seems to be ok. We will see after I get my blood work done.
 
UPDATE

Tri's - Had an awesome workout again.

Sides: None. I am waking up a lot easier now while off the cycle. I guess I didnt realize how lethargic I was while on. My appetite is still sky high like always. Libido is almost back to normal as well. I got on the scale this morning and was down 1 lbs.

Tomorrow I will be dropping my PCT down to 50mg of Clomid and 10mg of Nolva to finish out my remaining 3 weeks. I am running a natty test booster and will continue to until the end of my PCT.

I will be starting the Hghup this week so stay tuned.

Cheers to my man n8te. He is running the same cycle as I was and hitting it hard. Keep up the great work bro, next week is going to be sick for you!
 
gymaddict20 said:
I have run a M-drol / H-drol stack before. I ran Cyclo Bolan which was the same thing. I saw some great results from it but the M-drol / Epi bridge is by far the best cycle I have ever done. I will have some better picture up soon.
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Cool bro, the pic is actually better than I originally thought. I was looking at my Computer screen from an angle and it seemed darker, lol sorry bro! Nice viens in those shoulders and upper chest!!
 
I said earlier in the post that I will be running this stack soon, however i recently came across a new idea. Running the same stack but adding test prop and using it for 6 weeks, so it would be test p with mdrol and then 2 weeks of the epistane will have test prop in it as well then i will drop it, have last 2 weeks of epi by itself then go into pct, anyone think doing this will be good? i recently entered a 12 week challenge at my gym and i hear test prop is good for hardening and leaning and activating any other aas you take, what you guys think?
 
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