Epistane Lethargy

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Ok so I started an epi pulse but ended up stopping it cause I just became way too tired and lethargic after about the 3rd day dosing it. Anyone else experience this? I also just started some headcold thing that I got from my girlfriend so I am gonna wait about another week after I feel better before I try and start up again maybe longer even. Im probably gonna pick up a good stim too before I start just in case. Anybody do anything different to combat the lethargy from PHs or prevent it?
 
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Is there anything wrong with taking caffeine while on epi? Been fine for me, but I'm just a few days in.
 
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I ran my first cycle ever with epi @ 30/40/40/50/50/60 and experienced no lethargy. I would avoid taking stims with any PH/DS/AAS as stimulants will add to your already high blood pressure which will cause some nasty headaches.
 
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try upping your carbs a little if lethargy is bad.

also, some DHEA should do the trick...this is one of the reasons I like stacking dermacrine with EPI.
 

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Yep i'll second the Dermacrine to fight the lethargy.
 
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I didn't have any lethargy issues or headache issues with epi even when i was using a stim. ^^try what the guy two posts up said
 
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I didn't have any lethargy issues or headache issues with epi even when i was using a stim. ^^try what the guy two posts up said
For me epi caused my BP to go up, i had occasional headaches. Just a friendly reminder that we all respond to these compounds differently.
 
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For me epi caused my BP to go up, i had occasional headaches. Just a friendly reminder that we all respond to these compounds differently.
I'm aware we all respond differently. I was only speaking from personal experience.
 

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Yeah my BP went up slightly at first but after taking a few supps for it I was good to go also this could have been increased due to me getting sick right when I started. Thanks for the feedback guys it looks like the lethargy is probably just from me being sick right after starting so I will give it a few weeks and wait till I am feeling 100% again and will try it out and check from there. I was taking low dose dhea at the time aswell but I will def look into getting some dermacrine since it is used better through the skin and I have seen lots of positive reviews. Also I noticed that my joints were really dry and the last day on it, dosed at 30mg, I could not do cardio cause it made my ankle hurt after about 3-5 mins. I have been taking fishoil and a glucosamine/chondrotin/msm supp for about a month but this didnt seem to help. I am looking into grabbing something with cissus in it and possible HA as well. Anyone have any recommendations from personal experience while on epi?

Thanks again for the info!
 
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I would make sure you were taking 6-8 Cycle Assist ED and plenty of complex carbs throughout the day with simple carbs pre/post workout.
 

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Yeah I think with being sick and then taking something toxic to my liver it all added up and made me feel like ****. I take cycle support at 8 caps on off days spread out throughout the day and during on days I wait 6-8hrs after my epi dose to take the cycle assist, I normally take 6 caps then. That way I dont clean out any epi from my system before I get to use it all.
 
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Cissus, HA, and carnatine! Love the cissus! My marathoner Bro in law (he's 40) loves cissus after I turned him on to it. IMHO, it helps with muscle cramps also.
 
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