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Epistane cycle critique

Reflexion318

Reflexion318

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So about me. I am 20 years old have been lifting hard since i was 15. Played football all through highschool and am currently a sophomore in college. I'm 5'11 180lbs recently cut from 195.
bench 285-300
squat 430-450
dead 405-415

Im sitting at about 10-12% bodyfat, (4 pack is visible not bottom two abs)
I follow a 5 day split chest/back/legs/shoulders traps/ arms
6-10 reps pyramiding up with roughly 10-14 sets per body part

Ill will be using IBE epistane cycle for 6 weeks, wait one week start pct for 4 weeks with nolva. I will be taking cel cycle assist 2 weeks prior to the cycle and continue with it while on the cycle taking 8 caps a day. so it looks like:

epi 30/30/30/30/30/30
nolva 20/20/10/10

Ive read some people do 6 weeks and others do 4, im opting towards the 6.

Does this cycle look good for a first time ph user? Diet will be in check with a 40/40/20 split maybe 35/40/25

ANY input at all would be greatly appreciated. Whether its recommending additions to the pct or the cycle itself. Im really just looking for input before I commit.
 
just some thoughts man.

you're on the young side. although i'm 22, so i really can't say don't do it. everyone is different and you're gonna do what you want no matter what anyone else says.

why are you waiting a week after your cycle to start pct? start right after the cycle is over.

30mg is a fairly low dosage for your last weeks. its a good starting dosage to assess your tolerance, but for me (i'm close to your weight and strength level) 45mg was so much better with no noticeable extra sides.

get some fish oil, cissus, glucosamine, or some combination of the three, because epi has a high probability of raping your joints.

what else is in your pct?
 
Would it be better to start directly after the cycle with the pct? Ive read on some logs and people either start directly after or a week after. I can definitely start it sooner if its better too.

so would 30/30/40/40/40/ be a better idea, just subtract a week out and up the dosage.
also would clomid be better than nolva in this case?

Other things included in the pct will be fish oils, orange triad multi (has joint support) and zma at night. Thinking of picking up some erase also. Any thing you or anyone else would recommend?
 
i ran a 4 week cycle of epi, so this is just what worked for me with it. mine came in 15mg pills so i just went with 45. and as far as the length of cycle, feel it out. i'd say no longer than 6 weeks, but if you wanna shorten it, thats your call. i ran 4 weeks because for me, i seem to top out at the 4th week and really don't make any significant progress after that point, so i figured i'd jump into pct and not stay on any longer than i had to.

nolva is the only serm i've ever used, so i can't say anything as to the effectiveness of clomid. i've heard great things about torem, but i think it's more expensive than nolva.

for my pct, i used nolva, sustain alpha, daa, and lean extreme. it was an absolute breeze.
 
So after alot of reading and such I am fairly confident I will be going with as follows:

cycle support 4 tabs for 2 weeks preloading for ph.

epistane 30/30/40/40/40 -/ 8 tabs of cycle support on cycle
pct nolvadex 20/20/10/10
erase 1/1/3/3-until erase is gone
fadagio-500 3/3/3-(3 a day until bottle is gone also)
fish oils and orange triads will be other supps added

Should I continue cycle support through the pct also? Anything to replace or critique?

Also do i take creatine on this cycle or during pct?
 
i'd take it in pct as well (cycle support). nolva is rough on your lipids and is liver toxic also i believe.
 
many people here do use nolva and seem to say its the way to go unless clomid or torem. You think torem would be a better idea? Epistane is suppose to be just a mild ph anyways. I can get the nolva for 35 dollars in pill form.

Does everything else look efficient for a first cycle run? Would it be better to swap the erase/fadogia stack to the erase/titanium stack or would that not really make a big difference?
 
any other input anyone? Especially on the dosing of the fadagio-500. should I start that so soon in the pct, maybe lighten the doses in the first 2 weeks? I have majority of this down im just not sure on the fadagio issue and its dosing or going with titanium in its place. Just need a little more help guys.
 
save the creatine for post cycle. dont start your cycle until you have the pct on hand, in case something happens and you need to stop. looks fine, never heard of fadagio.
 
fadogia is a natty test booster. They have a special offer on nutra to get the erase and it together for 35 dollars. Would it be good to use that or go with erase and testopro or tcf-1? Also Im not too sure what to dose the test booster and when to start it in the pct. All the rest i know. Help with the test boost question everyone.

thanks for all the help so far guys
 
any input on the fadogia anyone? Im in a debate between the fadogia, adamantium, or titanium. Someone please help. All the rest is rock solid i just dont know which of the 3 is best to go with this cycle... Sponsor help? anyone..
 
bump on the fadagio, adimantium, titanium info guys. Just answer this question and stack is complete. I know there has to be someone who knows some reliable info on these supps...
 
Reflexion318 said:
bump on the fadagio, adimantium, titanium info guys. Just answer this question and stack is complete. I know there has to be someone who knows some reliable info on these supps...
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Well you got a pretty solid stack. Make sure to run the PCT the same amount of time your running your cycle (6 weeks of epi is 6 weeks of PCT 20/20/20/10/10/10 for nolva). I prefer Nolva over Torem but both are great SERMS. Get whichever one you can get cheapest, Epi isn't gonna cause any problems for you since it shows Aromatase Inhibiting properties. I would add taurine to you cycle, just in case you start to see a few back pumps. As for the test booster, I am a fan of DAA. Its always worked for me. I would vote for adamantium as my test booster. You could also stack the titanium with it if you wish but not needed. I didn't see much results from fadagio.

What other questions do you have?
 
i decided on a 5 week cycle opposed to the 6. so the pct should be for 5 weeks? Also are u suggesting add DAA and remove adamantium; or is adamatium a DAA? I see you can buy DAA, but i didnt know if adamtium was a blend and would be better than just the DAA caps. As for the taurine i would take that during the weeks of my cycle if back bumps occur correct?
 
Reflexion318 said:
i decided on a 5 week cycle opposed to the 6. so the pct should be for 5 weeks? Also are u suggesting add DAA and remove adamantium; or is adamatium a DAA? I see you can buy DAA, but i didnt know if adamtium was a blend and would be better than just the DAA caps. As for the taurine i would take that during the weeks of my cycle if back bumps occur correct?
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5 week cycle stretch the PCT for 5 weeks, you dont need more just make it last. Adamanium is a good DAA source because it also has L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate (LCLT). I would take Adamantium as my testbooster. The taurine is on an as needed basis. If you have lower back cramps about 3 grams of taurine a day to relieve that and continue to take it till they are gone.
 
Thanks for all the help man. Final question i have is what should the dosing be for the adamantium and when to start it during the pct.
 
Reflexion318 said:
Thanks for all the help man. Final question i have is what should the dosing be for the adamantium and when to start it during the pct.
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You can follow as directed on the label. I believe its one scoop a day. Start taking it a few days before the end of your cycle because it takes about 12 days before it actually kicks in.
 
Thanks for everything man. I will be sure to log everything once its in my possesion and I start the cycle. Also thank you to the others who contributed in the thread.
 
no problem bro
 
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