Enclo / PCT after 8 weeks Epiandro Solo ?

[AwakeningAlpha]

Hey guys,
Ran 8 weeks of 900mg Epiandro from Muscle Addiction solo as an experiment in maintaining muscle mass at the end of my Retatrutide run. I typically don't run anything hormonal to maintain my healthy natural T levels but Epi doesn't seem to suppress me or others so I decided to tack it onto the end of my Reta/cut. It was a success. Kept muscle despite the deficit, leaned out a little more, pumps and performance in the gym were great, and even got rid of the persistent sensitivity and swelling in my already unrecognizable gyno. The only other thing that has done that for me is Ralox. Why would this happen with Epi? It's arguably the best result from the run as that **** is annoying even though my pea sized gyno isn't growing or anything when it is sensitive. Is it cured? haha

My plan was to run a proper PCT to be safe, but I think this may be overly cautious and potentially cause more sides than the mild Epi run and just coming off without any sort of PCT. I was going to do 4-6 weeks of enclo at 25mg daily tapering off, as well as DIM and vitamin E and a natty AI, and have ralox & tamox on hand. One week in on the enclo and all I feel is mild lethargy, and slightly improved sleep. I definitely don't feel shut down or at all suppressed, just mainly don't want the sensitivity coming back, which I think it might with the enclo. What would you guys do?

 

[ironviking]

I would get blood work done to see where your at first. EpiA is pretty good stuff but it still can be suppresive just usually not a total shutdown. If your not doing bloods i would run a standard PCT at 4 weeks, just enclo though and maybe ralox if the gyno flares up but it more than likely won't

 

[Smont]

A few years ago I would have said full PCT, but the past few years Ive seen a few bloods on 900mg with no shutdown, I'm not sure how that is, but it seems like some ppl just don't get it and some do get mild test suppression without it really messing with LH and FSH much. You could still play it safe and take 20mg nolva or 12.5 enclomphine for a few weeks. If you had healthy levels to begin with then your gonna recovery one way or another regardless.

 

[AwakeningAlpha]

Thanks @Smont and @ironviking . Levels were healthy 700+ to begin with and I'm running another full panel next week to make sure. I'm going to run the low dose enclo and DIM for a few weeks to be safe as I already have it on hand. Will report back fOr SciEnCe.

 

[Smont]

Thanks @Smont and @ironviking . Levels were healthy 700+ to begin with and I'm running another full panel next week to make sure. I'm going to run the low dose enclo and DIM for a few weeks to be safe as I already have it on hand. Will report back fOr SciEnCe.

If you start a serm and dim now and get levels tested next week they will be skewed, not by much but the other things you're taking will definitely play a role and what your blood work number say, probably not for test or estrogen, but for LH, fsh and free testosterone. After about a week on a serm all the biochemical markers will be changing and doing there thing

 

[AwakeningAlpha]

If you start a serm and dim now and get levels tested next week they will be skewed, not by much but the other things you're taking will definitely play a role and what your blood work number say, probably not for test or estrogen, but for LH, fsh and free testosterone. After about a week on a serm all the biochemical markers will be changing and doing there thing

Yeah I figured. I just know Epi isn't like test where it is in your system for a few weeks so rather than "crash" I'm going to account for the enclo influence in my bloodwork. Do you think it's worth waiting to start the PCT so I get fully accurate bloods or beginning it to appropriately time the recovery?