ironparson
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If someone was interested in building a stack around Ecdysterone what would be the most synergistic combinations. Giving that the main goals would be maximum lean mass and no PCT?
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MrBrightside
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Off the top of my head, I'd think IGF-2/PowerFULL + Act-X/Divanex would be pretty wicked. Maybe some Drive/RPM.
Tech2TheLimit
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X-Factor worked great for me with it.
Mixelflick
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You want low dosed ATD + Rhaponticum carthamoides extract at 5mg/kg of bodyweight. ATD will work the protein synthesis via transcription and the RCE via mRNA translation, which is really the rate limiting step in protein synthesis.
ironparson
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With Methoxyisoflavone or Turk added how effective of a stack would this be?
Ive been reading since I originally posted this thread and it seems I would have to supplement a ton of Ecdy and/or Methoxy. Unfortuneately from what Ive been able to dig up the feedback seems mixed as far as effectiveness.
Id rather beat my muscles with some plates than a dead horse.
What kind of gains that you know are related to the Ecdy did you get?
rms80
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lot of diff. possibilities to stack with the ecdy-
1. I like Mixel's idea on the ATD and RC- should work- or you could use low-dose 6-bromo (like 30-60 mg/day) instead of the ATD....and you could use higher dose wolfsberry- it also has some positive effects on mRNA transcription
2. Drive/RPM/Ecdy would stack really well with this
3. Drive/IGF-2/Ecdy would stack even better
4. Drive/IGF-2/Nettle root 60%/Neovar/Ecdy would be really good as well
5. X-factor/Drive/Ecdy
1. I like Mixel's idea on the ATD and RC- should work- or you could use low-dose 6-bromo (like 30-60 mg/day) instead of the ATD....and you could use higher dose wolfsberry- it also has some positive effects on mRNA transcription
2. Drive/RPM/Ecdy would stack really well with this
3. Drive/IGF-2/Ecdy would stack even better
4. Drive/IGF-2/Nettle root 60%/Neovar/Ecdy would be really good as well
5. X-factor/Drive/Ecdy
MrBrightside
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I'm assuming you mean replacing Testofen with Divanex.
Mixelflick
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I'm not a fan of Methoxy. The Turk is useful, although I don't think it conveys benefits beyond RCE. For me, RCE adds dramatically to VO2 max, recovery time, muscle fullness etc.. It really ups my workload capacity, which is where I think it shines the most.
Mixelflick
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A few weeks. Just getting the website finished. I am really excited about it too. Been using the protocol for some time as have a number of others. Ecdy or not, it really delivers. I can't see myself training any other way from here on out. It's that good.
Maniac40
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ummmmmmmmmm !!
Beta Ecdysterone is a joke, save your money, unless you take a bottle a day you won't get any noticeable effect from using it. Just another re introduction of an ingredient that was dead 5 years ago and still delivers nothing!!!
Can anyone honestly tell me that they have made any changes in their physique by simply using beta ecdysterone???
Beta Ecdysterone is a joke, save your money, unless you take a bottle a day you won't get any noticeable effect from using it. Just another re introduction of an ingredient that was dead 5 years ago and still delivers nothing!!!
Can anyone honestly tell me that they have made any changes in their physique by simply using beta ecdysterone???
ironparson
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Mix,
Are you talking about the ATD + RCE????
I tried to PM you about dosing and cycle durations etc. Fill me in when you get a chance. Thanks Bro
Mixelflick
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No, it goes far beyond that. Options are included for 2 different types of adaptogen formulas but the framework for putting the product(s) in the best possible environment to elicit the optimal response is the crux of it. Truly, I believe this is what has been missing.
One is Mass Pro Synthagen, the other Progenadrex...
MrBrightside
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That's not even too high, so that's good news to ecdy users.
Mixelflick
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Mixelflick
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Is that so?
That stands is STARK contrast to what I and many,many others have noticed (in over 20 years of working with the compound, I might add). I've used it orally, sublingually, transdermal and yes... pinned it (RCE... Thermolife's material, made by a well known chemist). You may be confusing it with cheap CV, which I suggest getting a C of A/HPLC (NOT UV tested).
RCE is what you want (or a sapogenin analog, like Laxogenin/Anabolica pictured) or Turkesterone (attached). You may also find it interesting to know there are now 487 identified Ecdysteroids, and those 3 aren't the only ones that work... ecdybase.org). But maybe you were confused by the studies?
Here are but a sampling...
LOW DOSES PROMOTE MUSCLE BUILDING
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CURB GROWTH OF FAT TISSUE
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YOUNGER SKIN AND MORE MUSCLE
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STRENGTHENS BONES
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REPAIRS JOINTS
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MEGA MUSCLES
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HYPOGLYCEMIC EFFECT
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LIVER PROTECTION
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STIMULATES EPO FORMATION
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STRONG ENOUGH TO PUT IT ON DOPING LIST
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Shall I go on?
Synthagen leverages every scrap of research and practical experience I have with the compound(s) That covers 20+ years of Ecdy/Sapogenin Analogs and various other, lesser know Ecdysteroids..
It works.
Even in skeptics, like you...
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Mixelflick
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