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DTP coming spring 2009!

E J said:
Nice, will def buy it
loved DTH.
Quick question Chuck. I assume you took ATD out because you found a better / more effective blend, how would this stack with some ATD would it be beneficial or would you use something else like 6-oxo or TD form? how much of it would you use? prolly not necessary just looking to make the most of DTP.

Thanks man, really looking forward to it.
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ATD is in the process of being banned. Most anti e's regardless of choice will somehow retard estrogen in the body. All ATD does is block estro receptors meaning it doesnt reduce estrogen in the body, it binds as a false bond to estro sites. That.. yes is good and bad, but end of the day isnt going to make or break me in any way, shape, or form. Do some for real homework on the functions of estrogen in the body of bodybuilders, and you will see what I mean.

Chuck is about making a product that works, and looking at it from many angles. The large increase of resevatrol and DIM do more than needed to combat any estro surge from using DTH, or the "combo of progression DTP".

Honestly even with the current DTH I never needed any anti E, even dosing VERY high with DT2010, sunami, and Ether Tabs. I think most people have no clue how estrogen helps in the body, most hear the word and freak out.

When you take estrogen away you wreck havock in terms of anabolism for real.

-tripdogs fact of the day: Estrogen is crutial to be in the body for growth hormone output. That converts to igf-1 in the liver , and is far more anabolic in terms of protein synthesis and cell rejuvination, than "looking dry"? Thats diet, sodium intake, and cardio....not estrogen. Libido is also in need of estrogen to alow homeostases in the body on yet another level. Talk to someone that took too much letrozole, and ask them how their libido is...
 
TripDog said:
ATD is in the process of being banned. Most anti e's regardless of choice will somehow retard estrogen in the body. All ATD does is block estro receptors meaning it doesnt reduce estrogen in the body, it binds as a false bond to estro sites. That.. yes is good and bad, but end of the day isnt going to make or break me in any way, shape, or form. Do some for real homework on the functions of estrogen in the body of bodybuilders, and you will see what I mean.

Chuck is about making a product that works, and looking at it from many angles. The large increase of resevatrol and DIM do more than needed to combat any estro surge from using DTH, or the "combo of progression DTP".

Honestly even with the current DTH I never needed any anti E, even dosing VERY high with DT2010, sunami, and Ether Tabs. I think most people have no clue how estrogen helps in the body, most hear the word and freak out.

When you take estrogen away you wreck havock in terms of anabolism for real.

-tripdogs fact of the day: Estrogen is crutial to be in the body for growth hormone output. That converts to igf-1 in the liver , and is far more anabolic in terms of protein synthesis and cell rejuvination, than "looking dry"? Thats diet, sodium intake, and cardio....not estrogen. Libido is also in need of estrogen to alow homeostases in the body on yet another level. Talk to someone that took too much letrozole, and ask them how their libido is...
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and how was it when to much letrozole is takin



Chuck Diesel said:
Don't matter whats the % as long as the total amount is what it need to be. 200mg of 60% and 300mg of 40% is the same thing.
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i c, DTP is really setting a fire in my pants!
 
TripDog said:
ATD is in the process of being banned. Most anti e's regardless of choice will somehow retard estrogen in the body. All ATD does is block estro receptors meaning it doesnt reduce estrogen in the body, it binds as a false bond to estro sites. That.. yes is good and bad, but end of the day isnt going to make or break me in any way, shape, or form. Do some for real homework on the functions of estrogen in the body of bodybuilders, and you will see what I mean.

Chuck is about making a product that works, and looking at it from many angles. The large increase of resevatrol and DIM do more than needed to combat any estro surge from using DTH, or the "combo of progression DTP".

Honestly even with the current DTH I never needed any anti E, even dosing VERY high with DT2010, sunami, and Ether Tabs. I think most people have no clue how estrogen helps in the body, most hear the word and freak out.

When you take estrogen away you wreck havock in terms of anabolism for real.

-tripdogs fact of the day: Estrogen is crutial to be in the body for growth hormone output. That converts to igf-1 in the liver , and is far more anabolic in terms of protein synthesis and cell rejuvination, than "looking dry"? Thats diet, sodium intake, and cardio....not estrogen. Libido is also in need of estrogen to alow homeostases in the body on yet another level. Talk to someone that took too much letrozole, and ask them how their libido is...
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???? That is what a SERM does ie. Nolva.

ATD is a suicide inhibitor born from exemestane that binds to aromstase, and expels it from the body.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
???? That is what a SERM does ie. Nolva.

ATD is a suicide inhibitor born from exemestane that binds to aromstase, and expels it from the body.

Adams
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I remember hearing ATD binds to androgen receptors (to a small degree) and estrogen receptors. If thats not the case I am misquoted on its effect. When I looked up rebound xt it says binds to the site?
 
TripDog said:
I remember hearing ATD binds to androgen receptors (to a small degree) and estrogen receptors. If thats not the case I am misquoted on its effect. When I looked up rebound xt it says binds to the site?
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I have read it binds lightly to the androgen receptors (Which is why there is the controversy, but haven't seen anything about the estro... I am not saying it's not true, I just know the main course of action is through suicidal inhibition.

Adams
 
Hey Chuck.. Diesel Test Pro-Cycle, ok, you can send the free bottle to my address, just pm me HA!!.... "Stay Diesel for Life"!!!!!
 
Hey Chuck.. Diesel Test Pro-Cycle, ok, you can send the free bottle to my address, just pm me HA!!.... "Stay Diesel for Life"!!!!!
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Hehe, why not shoot for the stars and ask for 2 bottles?
 
HA!!!! Just Jokes, But seriously Chuck, and the rest of the Diesel Family, I'm so itching for the new DTP, can't wait... keep up the hard work man! And stay "Diesel for Life", Chuck, you know that slogan should be put on one of your t-shirts.....
 
droyal said:
HA!!!! Just Jokes, But seriously Chuck, and the rest of the Diesel Family, I'm so itching for the new DTP, can't wait... keep up the hard work man! And stay "Diesel for Life", Chuck, you know that slogan should be put on one of your t-shirts.....
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hahahahahahahahaahha
 
soon......soon


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sneak peak at writeup and all that. Probably not done, but not that different from DTH. I want to say there isnt alot of "BS" talking in this write up and it really doesnt explain the pumps and aggressive workouts.....and libido you will have on DTP. I just like to keep writeups from being "over the top outrageous" sounding like other companies.

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looks good chuck, if it is anything like DTHC and the 3 kings (which I loved by hte way), then it will be huge
 
Sweet, now this is what I'm talking about. Went back and forth on it, thinking that I didn't need the "pumps" and such from it, as that's why I have NOS Ether, so I was just going do it and some of the new DTH. As of now, This will figure into my next log, as I'm all primed from cutting down and eating right, and it looks like this is closer to the shelves than DTH right now. Either one would be awesome, it's a win-win situation!! Thanks for the updates Chuck!!
 
subweevil said:
Sweet, now this is what I'm talking about. Went back and forth on it, thinking that I didn't need the "pumps" and such from it, as that's why I have NOS Ether, so I was just going do it and some of the new DTH. As of now, This will figure into my next log, as I'm all primed from cutting down and eating right, and it looks like this is closer to the shelves than DTH right now. Either one would be awesome, it's a win-win situation!! Thanks for the updates Chuck!!
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Well the pumps are just something that "happens" from the product, its not formulated just to give pumps.
 
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sneak peak at writeup and all that. Probably not done, but not that different from DTH. I want to say there isnt alot of "BS" talking in this write up and it really doesnt explain the pumps and aggressive workouts.....and libido you will have on DTP. I just like to keep writeups from being "over the top outrageous" sounding like other companies.

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AHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
 
I notice DTP has PEA, Guarana, and Yohimbe in it's formula. How powerfull of a stimulant will it be? How would it compare to say, R4W? Most times I work out in the evening so that's my only concern with DTP.
 
Im excited to try this. Ive gone through 4 bottles of the DTHC and have been out for about 2 weeks now. Ive lost a solid 17 lbs and still muscular as hell and its summer so im itching to try this DTP
 
saludable24 said:
I notice DTP has PEA, Guarana, and Yohimbe in it's formula. How powerfull of a stimulant will it be? How would it compare to say, R4W? Most times I work out in the evening so that's my only concern with DTP.
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It wont be as strong as R4W, PEA really isnt a stimulant as in "cant sleep," it has a little Guarana becuase it has pre-workout instructions and because people get "sleepy" on DT products. It has like 25mg of caffeine from Guarana per tab or less.
 
How about the idea of low dose DTP while "on cycle", say a PH, to minimize shutdown and help maintain libido? It does contain Sunami which can be and from the feedback a good resveratrol product like Stoked helps while "on cycle" too.

Good or bad idea?
 
Chuck Diesel said:
It wont be as strong as R4W, PEA really isnt a stimulant as in "cant sleep," it has a little Guarana becuase it has pre-workout instructions and because people get "sleepy" on DT products. It has like 25mg of caffeine from Guarana per tab or less.
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Thanks for the heads up. Doesn't sound too "Stim" like with that little caffeine, so I will give it a go sometime next month or so and see how it goes. :)

For the record, I used 3 bottles of DTH, 2 last year and finishing my first bottle of the last version of 120 tabs, and never had any issues with feeling more lethargic; I actually had a little more energy. But then again I'm just generally fatigued all the time in the first place; maybe a little stim will do me good. Haha.
 
Question...

"Instructions on how to stack DTP with Diesel Test Hardcore or sunami can be found at getdiesel.com"

If this is essentially a combination of those 3 products, why would stacking it with more of the same do you any good?

couldn't you just add dosing?

PS. SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS PRODUCT!
 
anabolicRyan1 said:
Question...

"Instructions on how to stack DTP with Diesel Test Hardcore or sunami can be found at getdiesel.com"

If this is essentially a combination of those 3 products, why would stacking it with more of the same do you any good?

couldn't you just add dosing?

PS. SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS PRODUCT!
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Its not more of the same, just like the stacks are out now that are for DTH, DTH/sunami, DTH/DT2010, etc.,
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Its not more of the same, just like the stacks are out now that are for DTH, DTH/sunami, DTH/DT2010, etc.,
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I cant lie...
that doesn't make sense to me either...

DTH is supposed to have all of the ingredients that Diesel Test 2010
However there are like you said stacks that incorporate both of them.
:question:?:question:?:question:
 
I think Chuck has said before about the DT products and their stacks that even though many ingredients are the same, they are different extract/amounts to get different, though complimentary effects/results.
 
saludable24 said:
I think Chuck has said before about the DT products and their stacks that even though many ingredients are the same, they are different extract/amounts to get different, though complimentary effects/results.
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yep, and DTP might be shipping next thurs or friday......will update tues.
 
saludable24 said:
I think Chuck has said before about the DT products and their stacks that even though many ingredients are the same, they are different extract/amounts to get different, though complimentary effects/results.
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Not trying to be a pain in the ass... Still just doesn't make any sense to me.

If you are saying the extracts come from different plants I guess that could make sense...
But as far as amounts go, you don't "compliment" an ingredient with more of the same ingredient... I'm all for mega dosing something for a short period, or the bodies need for an additional amount, but from a different supp?

Not trying to down the cause considering I'm going to be grabbing some DTP the moment it hits. I just really like to understand the "why" behind these things.
 
anabolicRyan1 said:
Not trying to be a pain in the ass... Still just doesn't make any sense to me.

If you are saying the extracts come from different plants I guess that could make sense...
But as far as amounts go, you don't "compliment" an ingredient with more of the same ingredient... I'm all for mega dosing something for a short period, or the bodies need for an additional amount, but from a different supp?

Not trying to down the cause considering I'm going to be grabbing some DTP the moment it hits. I just really like to understand the "why" behind these things.
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Different formulations work different ways and different extracts of the same exact herb work different ways. A full spectrum tribulus extract is gonna work different from a "only standardized for" protodiocin extract.....also a tribulus "arial' extract is gonna work totally different from a tribulus root or leaf extract but you still may just see "40% saponins." Same thing with if the Tribulus is from China, India or Bulgaria. Same thing applies to long Jack but its actually more specific to age of the long jack root, country of origin and extraction process "water, hydro-alcoholic" etc..

This is what I do.....just go by what I say. The products are not "more of the same."
 
ok ok ok.

I'll ask a better question.

Do we know how much this is going to cost yet?
How do we be the first to get it?
lol
 
anabolicRyan1 said:
ok ok ok.

I'll ask a better question.

Do we know how much this is going to cost yet?
How do we be the first to get it?
lol
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Im sure that's been answered on here before. Should be about $49.95 to $52.95....cant discus who will have it 1st, but it will be at NP within' one day of getting to the 1st retailer to have it. Hoping to have this avail by the 21st.
 
Hey Chuck,

I recently found out about your company. Ordered my first tub of the new NOS Ether on Thursday; should get it tomorrow. I'm real excited to try it out.

Quick question: will DTP cause the user to fail an NCAA drug test?

Thanks for all of your hard work.
 
dtp has dhea which I think is more banned as in don't take it. Its not something that's tested for. I would check the ncaa website.
 
yea, i was about to post a follow up. i just read the ingredients label and saw the DHEA.

the new DTHC doesnt have DHEA in it. i may stick with that just to be safe. does that have any ncaa banned substances to your knowledge? ill check the website.

thanks again for your help.
 
diesel test hardcore doesn't have anything illegal in any organization.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
tues update, will update thurs....not quite sure to say 100% for sure friday.
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If an order is placed for DTP on fefifo, would it be shipped quicker than waiting for one of the other sites?? I know this may be politically hard to answer, but I was just curious.

Thanks C
 
MMALOVER said:
If an order is placed for DTP on fefifo, would it be shipped quicker than waiting for one of the other sites?? I know this may be politically hard to answer, but I was just curious.

Thanks C
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Well DTP isnt up at fefifo yet. But should be up today or tomorrow. It might get shipped faster just because I will have it "up" on the site faster where other sites get the product then wait days to add products. But some retailers are closer to my DTP manufacture than I am, so it depends. Like NP will get DTP 2 days after its done....but they might not add it to their site for 5 days like with NOS ETHER, but on the other hand, I might get some DTP here but I got tons of back orders for other stuff to get out so if you order from fefifo and its in, it might not ship that same day and I know how people get restless if a product isnt shipped 30 min after they place an order........so.........I dont know what to tell you.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Well DTP isnt up at fefifo yet. But should be up today or tomorrow. It might get shipped faster just because I will have it "up" on the site faster where other sites get the product then wait days to add products. But some retailers are closer to my DTP manufacture than I am, so it depends. Like NP will get DTP 2 days after its done....but they might not add it to their site for 5 days like with NOS ETHER, but on the other hand, I might get some DTP here but I got tons of back orders for other stuff to get out so if you order from fefifo and its in, it might not ship that same day and I know how people get restless if a product isnt shipped 30 min after they place an order........so.........I dont know what to tell you.
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Hey, it's all good. I'll have some soon enough!
 
wavegoodbye72 said:
yea, i was about to post a follow up. i just read the ingredients label and saw the DHEA.

the new DTHC doesnt have DHEA in it. i may stick with that just to be safe. does that have any ncaa banned substances to your knowledge? ill check the website.

thanks again for your help.
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I would stick to DTH if you have any concerns. Dhea "might" cause a false positive due to being hormonal.
 
So are there gonna be any stacks with DTP, (you know like the 3 kings stack?) I loved the 3K stack. What about DTH, Sunami and DTP, is it overkill?
 
E J said:
So are there gonna be any stacks with DTP, (you know like the 3 kings stack?) I loved the 3K stack. What about DTH, Sunami and DTP, is it overkill?
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There might be, prob. more so stacks with other GET DIESEL products, I really dont see a need to stack DTH, DTP and sunami....stack as in use the full or 3/4 dose of all 3. You would just be taking less DTP to add DTH when you can just take rec. dose of DTP. Might be some like DTP/R4W/NOS ETHER. Something like that.

Also DTP prob wont hit stores to end of next week, it still aint' freakin' done!
 
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