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DS reveals the OG CRZ formula.

Could have sworn on the original label it had like 60 or 160mg caffeine a scoop
when it first came out I remember Lobliner loved it and stacked it with hemavol stuff sold like crazy at TF
 
Just read the thread over at the other bodybuilding website
Pretty much his crew just harassing everyone and denying claims lulzy read
 
previous drug spiked company, proprietary blend, with the first 2 ingredients being stuff you can buy a truckload of for the cost of one container of this. is this for teenagers with paper routes? lobliner....hahahahaha "use this supp to get huge....and order from wfn..." :-)
 
If I was with a woman and found out she had an std, it's over. If she comes back a few years later now telling me she's clean and I can trust her, I wish her the best, but we're not ****ing. I hope they have great success with this, but I'm personally not taking the chance for a pre-workout.
 
niklasericson said:
On the label, ingredients.
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Yeah ingredients on the label, ink, paper, glue. Maybe some shiny texture substance to make it really stand out. That just about covers that. Im also curious as to the ingredients inside the bottle.
 
It’s more or less irrelevant what is on the label. Was anybody really expecting to see clinical doses of the same ingredients we see in 90% of preworkouts? Nobody bought OG Craze for what was on the label.

People interested in buying this likely know that they will be in for a nice ride, or a waste of money.
 
Ricky10 said:
It’s more or less irrelevant what is on the label. Was anybody really expecting to see clinical doses of the same ingredients we see in 90% of preworkouts? Nobody bought OG Craze for what was on the label.

People interested in buying this likely know that they will be in for a nice ride, or a waste of money.
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Back from the dead!
 
Ricky10 said:
It’s more or less irrelevant what is on the label. Was anybody really expecting to see clinical doses of the same ingredients we see in 90% of preworkouts? Nobody bought OG Craze for what was on the label.

People interested in buying this likely know that they will be in for a nice ride, or a waste of money.
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Back from the dead!
 
Apparently somebody got a sample before the profile had been released. This is what they had to say...

I was able to try a sample serving of this a few weeks back. VERY reminiscent of the OG craze. I had some cherry berry flavor- it was refreshing and strong

-Long lasting energy
-strong euphoria
-no noticeable crash

Honestly, felt better than DMHA and all the other suk ass stims these supp companies are using these days.
Not sure whats in the profile but im pumped to see.



I also discovered that this will not be exclusively released in Europe
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Completely different than paying money for an entire tub, which also supports the company. Apples to oranges.
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Of course we’d try samples, why not? Although not taking the plunge until there’s a lot of verified reviews - understand the history completely
 
I received my 2 tubs today and I will take my first dose before work tomorrow morning. I will likely end up bringing it to work with me as well:)

I will make every effort to report back tomorrow!
 
Ricky10 said:
I received my 2 tubs today and I will take my first dose before work tomorrow morning. I will likely end up bringing it to work with me as well:)

I will make every effort to report back tomorrow!
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Just tried DS Rize (Europe Exclusive) and nothing special. Awaiting for your CRZ review bro!
 
The DHEA is probably to cover up some exotic steroid precursor, and so Cahill can claim plausible deniability.
 
A new generation will read threads containing what people loved about he original and think it’s the greatest thing. They are trying to use the nostalgia to garner sales. Good business tactic.
 
Mine got delivered yesterday. The package said it was from M. Cahill. I thought that was a nice touch. I'm going to try it tomorrow before my Sat AM workout. Will report back.
 
I've tried the new CRz a few times so far... And the final verdict

It's nothing like the old craze, which I expected.
Basically feels like any other caffiene/yohimbine combo but not as jittery.
Kind of like ol reign.
 
jewgold said:
I've tried the new CRz a few times so far... And the final verdict

It's nothing like the old craze, which I expected.
Basically feels like any other caffiene/yohimbine combo but not as jittery.
Kind of like ol reign.
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But did you shake the tub? lol Thanks for that review. This is why I only purchased one tub. Will see how it goes tomorrow.
 
jewgold said:
I've tried the new CRz a few times so far... And the final verdict

It's nothing like the old craze, which I expected.
Basically feels like any other caffiene/yohimbine combo but not as jittery.
Kind of like ol reign.
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If you really think the new Craze was going to be anything like the old..
You are really trying to compare apples to amphetamines...

You got sold on louzy marketing......
 
The problem with fake reviews about products you haven’t taken is when you describe the feeling of ingredients that aren’t in the actual formula. There’s no yohimbine in it and yohimbine has a very unique feel. If you had taken CRZ, you’d never have described it like caffeine and yo. But haters gotta hate
 
Sldge said:
The problem with fake reviews about products you haven’t taken is when you describe the feeling of ingredients that aren’t in the actual formula. There’s no yohimbine in it and yohimbine has a very unique feel. If you had taken CRZ, you’d never have described it like caffeine and yo. But haters gotta hate
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Given DS’s EXTENSIVE track record, the label isn’t always a great indication of what’s in the product. Just sayin’ ;)
 
Sldge said:
The problem with fake reviews about products you haven’t taken is when you describe the feeling of ingredients that aren’t in the actual formula. There’s no yohimbine in it and yohimbine has a very unique feel. If you had taken CRZ, you’d never have described it like caffeine and yo. But haters gotta hate
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Lol fake...
I can post a pic of the tub I bought with the user name if need be
But I'm somewhat sensitive to any forms of yohimbine and it definitely feels like some form of it is in it. 1 scoop gave me those yohimbine - like jitter. May not be exactly yohimbine but some, brother, cousin, great grandfather of that substance.
Maybe it's just not "disclosed"
 
OK...so I got up this morning and took 1 scoop immediately upon rising out of bed. Turns out I got up an hour earlier than I had to without even knowing it. Somehow, I still managed to be somewhat late for work though :)

I did see someone complaining that they did not like the taste. It actually seemed to taste fairly good to me....certainly not a deterrent. Within 10-20 minutes, it definitely kicked in and I experienced a very clean and focused energy that was fairly uplifting but nothing euphoric. Within 1-2 hrs I didn’t feel a crash, but it kind of just died off. I then proceeded to take a few other routine morning stims, and off to work I went!

It basically just feels like a unique nootropic energy drink that would likely shine more at a 2 scoop dose. However, that would make for an extremely poor value. I foresee myself using going through my 2 tubs, but I don’t anticipate ordering it again in the future.

Let it be known...CRZ O.G is no Craze OG
 
Ape McGrapes said:
The DHEA is probably to cover up some exotic steroid precursor, and so Cahill can claim plausible deniability.
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Yeah, I do not understand why they put in 10mg of DHEA in a product, it makes no sense.
It is said that they have develop this product over a couple of years so they should know that 10mg of oral DHEA is totally useless.
 
I took 1 scoop again this morning along with nothing else (for stims), and I was back in bed sleeping within 2 hrs. This is very weak and short lived.

Now y’all have me fretting about the DHEA theories ;)
 
Sldge said:
The problem with fake reviews about products you haven’t taken is when you describe the feeling of ingredients that aren’t in the actual formula. There’s no yohimbine in it and yohimbine has a very unique feel. If you had taken CRZ, you’d never have described it like caffeine and yo. But haters gotta hate
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So, your profile says your occupation is R&D for DS. Assuming that is true, surely you should know that one of the ingredients in this product, Alchornea floribunda, can contain yohimbine, right? It can be found in the root, which is the same part of the material that your extract uses too. So you guarantee that there is absolutely no yohimbine and/or yohimbine/yohimbe-related alkaloids at all coming from this extract or elsewhere in this product?

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...alkaloids [yohimbine (Paris and Goutarel, 1958), alchorneine,isoalchorneine and alchorneinone (Khuong-Huu et al., 1970,1972 )were isolated from the root bark.
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To date, Yohimbine was also found in Alchornea floribunda Müll. Arg. (Euphorbiaceae) [14], Rauvolfia vomitoria, Rauwolfia nitida, Rauwolfia serpentine, Rauvolfia yunnanensis, and others [15].
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Just tried it for the first time. Took 1 1/2 scoops. Taste was more like fruit punch. Anyways, it’s OK. Nothing special. Just a run of the mill preworkout you can get. I’ll use it once in a while just because I don’t want to waste my money but glad I only purchased one tub.
 
Well please PM me if half a tub shows up in the auction section. Intriguing but not blown away by these reviews
 
If none of my stimheads are getting off on it...then I'm not, I for one never thought it would be the same....not going to sneak N,α-diethylphenylethylamine in there again lol. Was hoping for something wacky but guess not.
 
shockrock3 said:
If none of my stimheads are getting off on it...then I'm not, I for one never thought it would be the same....not going to sneak N,α-diethylphenylethylamine in there again lol. Was hoping for something wacky but guess not.
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Nope...Definitely don’t waste your money.

IMO, Excelsior is the best single product in this category for getting that unconventional somewhat euphoric feeling before a workout. Even more so when combined with other things.

I was about to order more Excelsior when I found out this was available, so I thought I would give this a try instead.
I wish I had just spent my money on more Excelsior.
 
Ricky10 said:
Nope...Definitely don’t waste your money.

IMO, Excelsior is the best single product in this category for getting that unconventional somewhat euphoric feeling before a workout. Even more so when combined with other things.

I was about to order more Excelsior when I found out this was available, so I thought I would give this a try instead.
I wish I had just spent my money on more Excelsior.
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When that first hit the market with the "hush hush" factor...I tried it, you know I felt that "Craze" feeling but literally for like 10-15 min tops and then just blah. Tried it again a few days later...meh same kinda reaction maybe even less. Too many people comment on it so I'll tend to agree "something" is up with it but not sure what.
Maybe I'll revisit and throw in a scoop of Assassin LOL.
 
shockrock3 said:
When that first hit the market with the "hush hush" factor...I tried it, you know I felt that "Craze" feeling but literally for like 10-15 min tops and then just blah. Tried it again a few days later...meh same kinda reaction maybe even less. Too many people comment on it so I'll tend to agree "something" is up with it but not sure what.
Maybe I'll revisit and throw in a scoop of Assassin LOL.
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The funny thing is that I had the exact same first impression, and actually sat on my tub for at least six months. I then started experimenting with it again in addition to my other PWO products and it was magic. Such things as RE1GN, CU, Vicaine, and Bronkaid...not all at full dose...haha! It really seemed to bring out the best of the mental attributes of those other products.

I really miss it now that I don’t have it..
 
Ricky10 said:
Nope...Definitely don’t waste your money.

IMO, Excelsior is the best single product in this category for getting that unconventional somewhat euphoric feeling before a workout. Even more so when combined with other things.

I was about to order more Excelsior when I found out this was available, so I thought I would give this a try instead.
I wish I had just spent my money on more Excelsior.
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You really got me sold as well ecstatic to try Excelsior since you mentioned Excelsior a bunch of times. I really can't wait to get my hands on Excelsior.

Wait.....Excelsior.
 
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