disciple76
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Love green tea. I brew 4 bags in my Nalgene container everyday, cool it, add ice and about 5 Spenda packets. MMMM.
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CHA0S
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i don't like the taste of cold tea. but i like it hot.
whatastud08
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I second the red tea for relaxation. I have a quality decaff kind, I had a double strength cup last night with 600mg Relora...I didn't feel like moving what-so-ever once I hit the recliner. (Watched Superbad)
bioman
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Same here after a strong cup of red tea, some reishi and some Ginseng I could hardly move last night.
I read an abstract that showed Ginseng lowers sodium levels but ups potassium levels greatly..which probably explains why my muscles relaxed fully, for the first time in a long time.
I read an abstract that showed Ginseng lowers sodium levels but ups potassium levels greatly..which probably explains why my muscles relaxed fully, for the first time in a long time.
nycste
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John Smeton
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so that goes for green tea capsules as well around protein timing. Do you have any specific facts yearright like how many minutes/hours before or after you can take green tea without whey protein?
how about with other souces of protein?\
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yeahright
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I'm afraid not. I was just recalling an article I read and it didn't go into strategy on how to avoid this problem. I'll google it and post it here.
yeahright
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Milk destroys health benefits of tea, says study
January 12th, 2007
PARIS - Bad news for Britons: adding milk to tea ruins the health benefits of the drink, according to a Germany study. Tea has complex compounds called polyphenols which are believed to help the arteries to relax or dilate, thus enabling a smoother flow of blood.
Scientists led at the Charite Hospital in Berlin tested black Darjeeling tea on 16 healthy women volunteers aged more than 50, placing an ultrasound probe on their forearm to measure arterial response.
When the women drank half a litre (0.9 of a pint) of tea, their arteries relaxed significantly more than when they drank hot water or tea with milk — tea in which skimmed milk, comprising 10 percent of the drink’s volume, was added.
The results were confirmed in lab-dish tests on rat aorta.
The study, which appears online in the European Heart Journal, points the finger of blame at three casein proteins in the milk. These are thought to adhere to a kind of polyphenols known as catechins, preventing them from carrying out their health-making work.
This could explain why Britain, a nation passionate about tea-drinking but where almost everybody adds milk to their cup, fails to make headway against cardiovascular disease, said researcher Verena Stangl.
The study did not cover green tea, which is widely drunk in East Asia — without milk.
January 12th, 2007
PARIS - Bad news for Britons: adding milk to tea ruins the health benefits of the drink, according to a Germany study. Tea has complex compounds called polyphenols which are believed to help the arteries to relax or dilate, thus enabling a smoother flow of blood.
Scientists led at the Charite Hospital in Berlin tested black Darjeeling tea on 16 healthy women volunteers aged more than 50, placing an ultrasound probe on their forearm to measure arterial response.
When the women drank half a litre (0.9 of a pint) of tea, their arteries relaxed significantly more than when they drank hot water or tea with milk — tea in which skimmed milk, comprising 10 percent of the drink’s volume, was added.
The results were confirmed in lab-dish tests on rat aorta.
The study, which appears online in the European Heart Journal, points the finger of blame at three casein proteins in the milk. These are thought to adhere to a kind of polyphenols known as catechins, preventing them from carrying out their health-making work.
This could explain why Britain, a nation passionate about tea-drinking but where almost everybody adds milk to their cup, fails to make headway against cardiovascular disease, said researcher Verena Stangl.
The study did not cover green tea, which is widely drunk in East Asia — without milk.
yeahright
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09 January 2007
NewScientist.com news service
Debora MacKenzie
Those looking for an antidote to holiday overindulgence may have added “drink more tea” to their lists of New Year’s resolutions, given past studies linking the drink to health benefits. But new research indicates this could all be in vain if you add a splash of milk.
German researchers have found that the relaxing effect of a few cups of ordinary black tea on the arteries is completely wiped out by milk.
After water, tea is the most widely drunk beverage in the world, and is increasingly popular in countries such as the US after reports that people who drink more tea have less cardiovascular disease and cancer. But these effects have been seen most clearly in east Asia, not in tea-loving countries such as the UK.
“That could be because there they almost always drink tea with milk,” says Verena Stangl of the Charité Hospital in Berlin. She and her colleagues found that when middle-aged women drank half a litre of black Darjeeling, their arteries relaxed much more in response to artificially increased blood flow than without the tea. This ability prevents cardiovascular problems, and depends on eNOS, an enzyme that synthesises the chemical messenger nitrous oxide.
Underlying effects
They found that tea also relaxed rings of rat aorta in the lab, and increased the activity of eNOS in cultured arterial cells fourfold. But when the tea had 10% of skimmed milk in it, it had none of these effects in women, rat aortas or cells.
Dissecting this further, the team found that casein proteins from milk blocked the effect of tea all by themselves. These proteins bind specifically to tea chemicals which cause rat aorta to relax, and especially a catechin called EGCG. Catechins are a kind of polyphenol, a group of chemicals long thought to underlie tea’s healthful effects.
Researchers in the past have claimed that milk had no effect on tea because it does not change overall concentration of polyphenols in the blood. But, Stangl told New Scientist, what is important are specific polyphenols, such as EGCG – and milk does block those. “It probably also blocks tea’s effect on other things, such as cancer,” she says.
The group is now looking at whether green or black tea is better for you. Previous studies may have been confounded by the fact that black tea is often drunk with milk, while green tea is not.
Journal reference: European Heart Journal
NewScientist.com news service
Debora MacKenzie
Those looking for an antidote to holiday overindulgence may have added “drink more tea” to their lists of New Year’s resolutions, given past studies linking the drink to health benefits. But new research indicates this could all be in vain if you add a splash of milk.
German researchers have found that the relaxing effect of a few cups of ordinary black tea on the arteries is completely wiped out by milk.
After water, tea is the most widely drunk beverage in the world, and is increasingly popular in countries such as the US after reports that people who drink more tea have less cardiovascular disease and cancer. But these effects have been seen most clearly in east Asia, not in tea-loving countries such as the UK.
“That could be because there they almost always drink tea with milk,” says Verena Stangl of the Charité Hospital in Berlin. She and her colleagues found that when middle-aged women drank half a litre of black Darjeeling, their arteries relaxed much more in response to artificially increased blood flow than without the tea. This ability prevents cardiovascular problems, and depends on eNOS, an enzyme that synthesises the chemical messenger nitrous oxide.
Underlying effects
They found that tea also relaxed rings of rat aorta in the lab, and increased the activity of eNOS in cultured arterial cells fourfold. But when the tea had 10% of skimmed milk in it, it had none of these effects in women, rat aortas or cells.
Dissecting this further, the team found that casein proteins from milk blocked the effect of tea all by themselves. These proteins bind specifically to tea chemicals which cause rat aorta to relax, and especially a catechin called EGCG. Catechins are a kind of polyphenol, a group of chemicals long thought to underlie tea’s healthful effects.
Researchers in the past have claimed that milk had no effect on tea because it does not change overall concentration of polyphenols in the blood. But, Stangl told New Scientist, what is important are specific polyphenols, such as EGCG – and milk does block those. “It probably also blocks tea’s effect on other things, such as cancer,” she says.
The group is now looking at whether green or black tea is better for you. Previous studies may have been confounded by the fact that black tea is often drunk with milk, while green tea is not.
Journal reference: European Heart Journal
CHA0S
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probably why when you buy green tea it always say to drink it straight and never add milk or sweeteners.
CHA0S
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I steep my tea in hot water overnight, so that's its nice and cool and ready to drink in the morning. Will this destroy the benefits of tea drinking?
depends what you are drinking. it will kill practically all of the benefits in green tea. but i know people who steep pine needle tea that long (to make it stronger) and maybe some others that i am unsure about.
bassgirl
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Tea connoisseur!
Been drinking tea since I was 10 yrs old. I have always been a black tea drinker, and other types too, but mainly black tea. First tried japanese green tea in college. Added Green Tea to my selection about, oh, 2 years ago. I have as much fun scouting out the different blends (jasmine etc) as I do drinking it. Love it! Love it!!
This gal doesnt drink coffee, so tea is my vice! I drink 3-5 cups a day, and take green tea tabs as well.
Been drinking tea since I was 10 yrs old. I have always been a black tea drinker, and other types too, but mainly black tea. First tried japanese green tea in college. Added Green Tea to my selection about, oh, 2 years ago. I have as much fun scouting out the different blends (jasmine etc) as I do drinking it. Love it! Love it!!
This gal doesnt drink coffee, so tea is my vice! I drink 3-5 cups a day, and take green tea tabs as well.
CHA0S
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:thumbsup: nice!
MuscleGuyinNY
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I really enjoy tea, but especially southern-style and green tea. Even more if the green tea has ginseng in it.
If it's there, then I'll drink it. Sometimes I just crave it and must have it.
If it's there, then I'll drink it. Sometimes I just crave it and must have it.
CHA0S
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you should get most of the benefits (sense of well-being, relaxation, antioxidants, ect.) but i would assume that won't be getting AS MUCH of the fat burner effects.
maynehood171
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I love green tea!!!! Though I thought I've heard before that green tea can cause kidney stones...can anybody confirm or shed some light on this...?
CHA0S
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really!? can't say i've heard of this. i thought kidney stones were a cause of large clumps of calcuim in the kidneys. a few cups has very little calcium in it, so you should be fine unless you overdo it and drink 20 cups a day.
CHA0S
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one way to find out is to test that theory out yourself. :lol:
Bruth
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I have heard this, I think it has more to do with the caff content. And on second thought I dont think it causes them just makes them worse if they are pre-existing or if you are having a flair up
Bruth
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What is Lugol's? And where is a good place to get it. I drink a lot a lot of green tea.
IainDaniel
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If you get an opportunity try some Japanese Matcha Green tea. The way it is harvested, generates a higher L-theanine content. Get a nice feeling off of it.
You could also try Gyokuro.... but it is very pricey.
You could also try Gyokuro.... but it is very pricey.
johnyq
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rooibos nutritional content
Iron 0.035 mg
Potassium 3.56 mg
Calcium 0.54 mg
Copper 0.035 mg
Zinc 0.02 mg
Magnesium 0.78 mg
Fluoride 0.11 mg
Manganese 0.02 mg
Sodium 3.08 mg
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so it does have fluoride in it.
This fluoride thing is so hard to get a real grasp on. Is it the internet's ability to make a conspiracy out of everything, or is it actually bad for us?
Maybe I should just cycle my heavy green tea intake every few months. Supposedly white tea is low in fluoride though, if it weren't so expensive I would drink more of it.
I hope someone figures out if egcg caps have fluoride.
btw, I get all of my tea from Invalid Link Removed , I love their prices, service, and variety.
Iron 0.035 mg
Potassium 3.56 mg
Calcium 0.54 mg
Copper 0.035 mg
Zinc 0.02 mg
Magnesium 0.78 mg
Fluoride 0.11 mg
Manganese 0.02 mg
Sodium 3.08 mg
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so it does have fluoride in it.
This fluoride thing is so hard to get a real grasp on. Is it the internet's ability to make a conspiracy out of everything, or is it actually bad for us?
Maybe I should just cycle my heavy green tea intake every few months. Supposedly white tea is low in fluoride though, if it weren't so expensive I would drink more of it.
I hope someone figures out if egcg caps have fluoride.
btw, I get all of my tea from Invalid Link Removed , I love their prices, service, and variety.
RenegadeRows
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i drink sencha, gyokuro, genmaicha and gunpowder. i'll usually only have one cup when i get home from work before training.
out of all the teas ive tried, green is still my favorite.
but i like the oolong when i go out to chinese restaurants
out of all the teas ive tried, green is still my favorite.
but i like the oolong when i go out to chinese restaurants
bioman
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Yeah the flouride thing is certainly questionable. I think drinking green tea is fine but when we start talking about taking large amounts of GT extract..that has me a little concerned because I don't know the flouride content of these extracts. Seems to be a big freakin secret as no one in the industry talks about it at all.
On the whole, I'd say if you are getting enough iodine in your diet, the small steady intake of flouride in tea shouldn't be a huge issue. If you are iodine deficient...that IMO, is when flouride or even chlorine exposure is a concern as they will bind aggressively to thyroid receptors.
It's a subject that needs a lot more study, but I think there's enough info present to at least make people aware of potential issues.
On the whole, I'd say if you are getting enough iodine in your diet, the small steady intake of flouride in tea shouldn't be a huge issue. If you are iodine deficient...that IMO, is when flouride or even chlorine exposure is a concern as they will bind aggressively to thyroid receptors.
It's a subject that needs a lot more study, but I think there's enough info present to at least make people aware of potential issues.
Bruth
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On this note I just got a bottle of Kelp powder (for Iodine content) as I drink a good deal of Green Tea and am currently taking 2 over 2g of GTE a day.
asianbabe
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I like most types of tea.
bcaa green tea is nice at home, even with a couple of pieces of lemon.
When I'm out dining I will usually order an iced lemon black tea without syrup, then add in sweetener. Damn good alternative to a huge iced mocha with cream and ice-cream without feeling deprived.
bcaa green tea is nice at home, even with a couple of pieces of lemon.
When I'm out dining I will usually order an iced lemon black tea without syrup, then add in sweetener. Damn good alternative to a huge iced mocha with cream and ice-cream without feeling deprived.
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