Dosing for a Carnitine ****tail

[BurghHardcore]

Hey guys/gals. If you had ALCAR, LCLT, and PLCAR sitting in your cabinet right now, how would you dose each and when? Take them all at once, like 1g of each? Or take some more of one (possibly ALCAR) earlier in the day so you don't stay awake at night? Just looking for some suggestions here.

Also, I've read that 3g/day of both ALCAR and LCLT should be a "sweet spot" for both. Is that correct? Is less needed? How about PLCAR?


Thanks!

 

[thebigt]

i have my ideas about dosing them, but i would really like to see dsade chime in and give his opinion.

 

[BurghHardcore]

i have my ideas about dosing them, but i would really like to see dsade chime in and give his opinion.

LOL I was hoping for the same exact thing!! Let's hope he see's this and can give us his opinion.

:friday:

Bump for dsade!

 

[thebigt]

LOL I was hoping for the same exact thing!! Let's hope he see's this and can give us his opinion.

:friday:

Bump for dsade!

bump

 

[southpaw23]

I use Anavite which has 2 grams of L-Carnitine L-Tartrate. Thinking of adding in some bulk Alcar from PrimaForce (500 mg per scoop) - 500 servings according to label.

Is 2 grams of LCLT enough?

 

[monstermash]

I use Anavite which has 2 grams of L-Carnitine L-Tartrate. Thinking of adding in some bulk Alcar from PrimaForce (500 mg per scoop) - 500 servings according to label.

Is 2 grams of LCLT enough?

I prefer 3g a day. That was the recommended dose on the LCLT tubs i bought when RPN had them out.

 

[thebigt]

I prefer 3g a day. That was the recommended dose on the LCLT tubs i bought when RPN had them out.

the lclt is easy-i do 2 gm 2x day. but when you add in alcar/plcar things get more complicated.

 

[southpaw23]

the lclt is easy-i do 2 gm 2x day. but when you add in alcar/plcar things get more complicated.

Now I'm completely confused.

 

[thebigt]

Now I'm completely confused.

the op has alcar/lclt/plcar. to be honest i have never ran all 3 at the same time, and would be interested in the best way to dose.

 

[HATEFULone]

I use Anavite which has 2 grams of L-Carnitine L-Tartrate. Thinking of adding in some bulk Alcar from PrimaForce (500 mg per scoop) - 500 servings according to label.

Is 2 grams of LCLT enough?

I prefer the fumarate version myself, but I've heard of people using gplc at lower doses when alcar was concurrently dosed, so not sure if it applies to the other forms of carnitine, but I'm sure there is some synergy between the different forms.

 

[southpaw23]

the op has alcar/lclt/plcar. to be honest i have never ran all 3 at the same time, and would be interested in the best way to dose.

Thanks BigT. Like the OP, I too am confused as to how to dose these 2 versions of carnitine. Anavite has 2 grams of LCLT, now I'm hearing that it's not enough to see any measurable benefit(s). I was thinking about getting Alcar based on reading threads like this one...

 

[BurghHardcore]

Bump for the Carnitine wisdom of Dsade...

If anything, I would stick with the 3g/day of the LCLT and bump down the dose of ALCAR. Keep in consideration though that people respond different and my suggestion might not hold true for everyone. I personally seem to feel the LCLT more than the ALCAR, that's just me.

Basically I'll be dosing LCLT at 3g/day, the ALCAR at 1-2g/day, and the PLCAR at 2g/day, at least that's what I'm thinking right now. I'd like to dose all 3 together in the morning before working out. Then possibly LCLT/ALCAR in the afternoon again, then PLCAR/LCLT at night. Actually it has just become obvious to me I have no clue how I'll dose yet LOL. Where is Dsade when you need him?!

 

[thebigt]

Bump for the Carnitine wisdom of Dsade...

If anything, I would stick with the 3g/day of the LCLT and bump down the dose of ALCAR. Keep in consideration though that people respond different and my suggestion might not hold true for everyone. I personally seem to feel the LCLT more than the ALCAR, that's just me.

Basically I'll be dosing LCLT at 3g/day, the ALCAR at 1-2g/day, and the PLCAR at 2g/day, at least that's what I'm thinking right now. I'd like to dose all 3 together in the morning before working out. Then possibly LCLT/ALCAR in the afternoon again, then PLCAR/LCLT at night. Actually it has just become obvious to me I have no clue how I'll dose yet LOL. Where is Dsade when you need him?!

see, that's the problem-we know how to dose the carnitines individually. but how is dosing effected when combining 3 seperate carnitines?



i agree, i too would like to hear what dsade has to say.

 

[prld2gr8ns]

1.5gr of plcar and lclt 2X a day would be the sweet spot for both IMO

 

[thebigt]

1.5gr of plcar and lclt 2X a day would be the sweet spot for both IMO

what about the alcar?

 

[southpaw23]

what about the alcar?

Lol this whole thread reads like a who's on first scenario.

 

[BurghHardcore]

haha! We are probably making it more complicated than it needs to be. But we're spending the money damnit, so why not make every bit of it as effective as possible. It's cool getting everyone's thoughts though. There's more than one way to do this.

 

[prld2gr8ns]

what about the alcar?

Dose it as you see fit. I like the 2-4gr range first thing in the morning, with my intial blend of plcar and lclt. Gives great focus with that combo.

 

[rulk22]

ALCAR, LCLT, and PLCAR
ALCAR is easily absorbed by the body, id dose this 1st thing in the morning and before workouts.

LCLT is better absorbed with carbs, I would also add alpha lipoic acide to absorb more. Take it with the meal before your workout, and with your post workout meal or shake.

PLCAR can be taken when with LCLT. You can also take both of these with your dinner.

 

[Dizmal]

I got my order in yesterday and just took 1.5g of each last night and this morning.

This morn upon waking, took an na-rala, 30 minutes later mixed a half cup of OJ with 1.5g of all 3, slammed it and ate a banana.

I dunno, I don't feel much difference. But I selpt like ass last night and felt tired this morning anyway.

 

[monstermash]

I got my order in yesterday and just took 1.5g of each last night and this morning.

This morn upon waking, took an na-rala, 30 minutes later mixed a half cup of OJ with 1.5g of all 3, slammed it and ate a banana.

I dunno, I don't feel much difference. But I selpt like ass last night and felt tired this morning anyway.

I wouldn't take ALCAR before bed. Could be the reason for crappy sleep.

 

[Dizmal]

I took it at 7pm, bedtime wasn't till 11.

 

[XJDesertFox]

Bumping this, Was going to post this exact question, but found this thread when i searched.

So...gram values per dose of each?

 

[rulk22]

Bumping this, Was going to post this exact question, but found this thread when i searched.

So...gram values per dose of each?

you can go from 1gram to 4 grams per dose. I would'nt go over this musch unless your comfortable...and rich : )

Total for the day id say 8 grams is good, give or take. Ive heard of others taking up to 20 grams a day but I would'nt do that much personally. Start off with enough to get results and add a little more when you feel like results are happening less.

 

[monstermash]

Bumping this, Was going to post this exact question, but found this thread when i searched.

So...gram values per dose of each?

I like this...

PLCAR- 2g-3g/ day
LCLT- 3g/ day
ALCAR- N/A Haven't used this yet but will soon @ 1.5g/day

Never stacked but used these individually
GPLC- 4.5g/day
Arginocarn-1.5-3g/day

Individually or stacked, i just go by feel and don't go over the recommended amounts of each. LCLT and PLCAR @ 3grams a day each was great, this time around I'll just be adding in 1.5 g of ALCAR preworkout.

 

[rms80]

Hey guys/gals. If you had ALCAR, LCLT, and PLCAR sitting in your cabinet right now, how would you dose each and when? Take them all at once, like 1g of each? Or take some more of one (possibly ALCAR) earlier in the day so you don't stay awake at night? Just looking for some suggestions here.

Also, I've read that 3g/day of both ALCAR and LCLT should be a "sweet spot" for both. Is that correct? Is less needed? How about PLCAR?


Thanks!

I would split them into thirds- and keep upping the dose until it starts to be inhibitory on the NS (you will feel it)...usually the excitation occurs with lower doses- and I would also add in some choline as well. You will have to experiment to see what works best for you

 

[monstermash]

I would split them into thirds- and keep upping the dose until it starts to be inhibitory on the NS (you will feel it)...usually the excitation occurs with lower doses- and I would also add in some choline as well. You will have to experiment to see what works best for you

I know the rule of thumb for Piracetam and choline is 2:1. Is there a general amount of choline per amount of carnitine?

 

[MAxximal]

I would split them into thirds- and keep upping the dose until it starts to be inhibitory on the NS (you will feel it)...usually the excitation occurs with lower doses- and I would also add in some choline as well. You will have to experiment to see what works best for you

This :approve:

 

[Ev52]

I know the rule of thumb for Piracetam and choline is 2:1. Is there a general amount of choline per amount of carnitine?

I would like to know this as well.