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Been sayin this all along. If this is the crowd that is saying “support Ukraine, Russia is bad” I’m for damn sure, at a minimum, not going to spout the same rhetoric as them.
 
biden on campaign trail in 2019--'look into my eyes, i will put a end to fossil fuels in this country'....my question for biden is this-how is russian, iranian and or venezuelan oil better for the environment than American oil, joe?
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It’s enough to make you want to throw yourself down a flight of stairs! But it’s just the latest example of this administration showing complete disregard for the livelihood of American citizens. There is always a way to make things better, or at least make a concerted effort. Unfortunately, these attributes are nowhere to be found in this administration‘s playbook.
 
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It’s enough to make you want to throw yourself down a flight of stairs! But it’s just the latest example of this administration showing complete disregard for the livelihood of American citizens. There is always a way to make things better, or at least make a concerted effort. Unfortunately, these attributes are nowhere to be found in this administration‘s playbook.
nah...a long time ago my old mentor willie told me that living well is the best revenge.
 
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Yeah, he can't stop pootin
speaking of pootin, russia supplies 2/3rds of worlds fertilizer and they are going to 'turn off the spigot'...before you laugh, i see even higher, much higher food prices coming from this.
 
ted's got a stanglehold on the mango tango, baby....


this is going to hurt farmers!!!
going to hurt each and everyone of us. I am in "rice and beans every trip to the store" mode. I dont think storing a bunch of gas is feasible for me, but I can put aways a few weeks worth of beans and water. I think I might buy a solar generator. and keep the tanks topped off on the vehicles.
 
going to hurt each and everyone of us. I am in "rice and beans every trip to the store" mode. I dont think storing a bunch of gas is feasible for me, but I can put aways a few weeks worth of beans and water. I think I might buy a solar generator. and keep the tanks topped off on the vehicles.
lots of rebates on solar generators.......i'm going to trade in my generac for solar...we have a fireplace and woodstove we could use for cooking and heat if need be, but if power goes out we are fucked with a huge fridge and 2 deep freezers full of meat-but worst of all is being on well water, if electricity goes out we won't have water---thinking about hooking up a manual pump like back in the old days-that was my grandparents only source of water a old hand pump--it was also only water source when i lived in philippines-province shower, lol.
 
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lots of rebates on solar generators.......i'm going to trade in my generac for solar...we have a fireplace and woodstove we could use for cooking and heat if need be, but if power goes out we are fucked with a huge fridge and 2 deep freezers full of meat-but worst of all is being on well water, if electricity goes out we won't have water---thinking about hooking up a manual pump like back in the old days-that was my grandparents only source of water a old hand pump--it was also only water source when i lived in philippines-province shower, lol.

If your talking about traditional home solar installation connected to the grid, when the power goes out your solar goes out. Its a safety feature so no power goes back out onto public lines and electrocutes the people trying to fix it.

You would need batteries and they are more of a luxury item, they are a bit expensive and you may want multiple depending on your needs and they wont last too long.
 
If your talking about traditional home solar installation connected to the grid, when the power goes out your solar goes out. Its a safety feature so no power goes back out onto public lines and electrocutes the people trying to fix it.

You would need batteries and they are more of a luxury item, they are a bit expensive and you may want multiple depending on your needs and they wont last too long.
yes, i will need batteries...still looking into it, but right now i've got a big kerosene powered generator that i've only ever needed for 8 hours when i've lost power....looking for someway to guarantee power for up to 2 weeks.
 
speaking of pootin, russia supplies 2/3rds of worlds fertilizer and they are going to 'turn off the spigot'...before you laugh, i see even higher, much higher food prices coming from this.
I've watched it sky rocket last season and have started purchasing it already this season.

Pelletized lime has tripled

Glyohosate has doubled by the gallon
 
i was very fortunate to sell my business and retire 1st of february, 2021.

don't give up hope, i lost everything in the crash of 2008 but managed to rebound nicely--it can be done...i started out in real abject poverty and now my wife and i have a comfortable retirement nest egg.

i really pity those people who are retired without any nest egg to supplement SSI....wages are going up along with prices/inflation but SSI benefits are stagnant---many of the same people who criticize the elderly for not saving for retirement are the same people crying for college debt to be forgiven?

i know many elderly in my community who are getting hit hard by rising prices when they were just getting by before--biden and democrats never mention the plight of the elderly.
One thing everyone I know says about me is that I'm the most persistent, relentless, never give up stubborn mofo they know.

And one time I was in Hong Kong and I made my way over to Tibet. I got on as a looper at a course in the Himalayas. I tell them that I'm a pro jock and who da Fook do you think they give me? The Dalai lamma himself, twelfth son of the lama. Flowing robes bald head, the grace etc

So I handed him the driver, big hitter the lama, and he wacks one long one into a ten thousand foot crevasse at the bottom of a glacier. And you know what he said to me ?gunga galunga gagalunga .

So we finish and he's going to stiff me, so I say hey lama how about a little something you know for the effort?

So he says to me, there won't be any money exchanged here, but when you die on your deathbed you will receive total consciousness.

So I have that going for me which is nice
 
Yall hear they had to take sleepy Joe to the hospital
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Been sayin this all along. If this is the crowd that is saying “support Ukraine, Russia is bad” I’m for damn sure, at a minimum, not going to spout the same rhetoric as them.

The other side - Republicans & conservatives - are saying the same thing on this issue!! Russia is bad and Ukraine is good.

What "other" side are you talking about?? Russia and China?? The Ayatollah, Little Kim, and Maduro??? Because if you ask me.... THAT is the group you probably don't want to side with!
 
In what way? Can you perhaps explain?

Seems to me that Russia just rolling its army into the neighboring country is more like Hitler and the Nazis... than Zelensky in Ukraine asking to remain free.
urkraine is FULL of nazis. its all over the news in yrs past.. i thought everyone knew that. the russians are claiming that its the kazarian mafia that is killing the ukraines fleeing to russia... and of course blaming it on the russians. go look it up you wont have to look far to find all kinds of media from around 2016//
 
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We were funding Chinese biolabs with taxpayers money too. And got the Wuhan flu!

But Russia is not invading Ukraine because they don't like US funded biolabs. Please tell me you understand at least that much....
according to Putin himself they are there to take out: the neo nazis/biolabs[they have bombed 19 of them]/stop the advance of NATO along its borders/ukraine to recognise the small liberated states the have regained.
 
urkraine is FULL of nazis. its all over the news in yrs past.. i thought everyone knew that. the russians are claiming that its the kazarian mafia that is killing the ukraines fleeing to russia... and of course blaming it on the russians. go look it up you wont have to look far to find all kinds of media from around 2016//

Define "full of nazis"
We have Nazis in America, too.
Germany still has a sh1tload of Nazis.

BUT they are not invading their neighboring countries!!

Again.... Russia did not roll into Ukraine with a total armored invasion attempt because of some nazis or a dozen level 2 or 3 biolabs. Jeeeeez!

You could argue whether it was Ukraine wanting to join NATO as a last straw.... or whether Biden really wants to rebuild the old soviet empire.

But the rest of these nazi/biolab stories are Russian propoganda being set to stage even greater atrocities and further THEIR game. Not ours. And not yours.

Good chance Putin is exaggerating the biolab story because he plans to Chem attack the Ukranians soon (since he isn't doing all that well in battle) and needs an excuse. Don't fall for it!
 
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according to Putin himself they are there to take out: the neo nazis/biolabs[they have bombed 19 of them]/stop the advance of NATO along its borders/ukraine to recognise the small liberated states the have regained.

Im sure there are nazi's in Ukraine, but there probably are nazi's in Russia too. I think Pootin is more focused on ending NATO's expansion and not thinking about some useless Nazi's. Plus on top of not wanting NATO, there are trillions of dollars at stake for Russia's future as Ukraine has the 14th largest national gas reserves in the world and countless other resources that put his own economy at risk since the west doesnt appear to have much love for Russia to succeed and wouldnt hesitate to cut russian energy if they have a direct more "friendly" source.

Bombing biolabs to save the world is completely moronic, if they are dangerous you dont save the world by bombing them. Im sure there are biolabs there as there are in Russia, China, the US, etc......all over the world, not saying they dont exist. Maybe he did bomb them I dunno but that doesnt sound right.
 
Define "full of nazis"
We have Nazis in America, too.
Germany still has a sh1tload of Nazis.

BUT they are not invading their neighboring countries!!

Again.... Russia did not roll into Ukraine with a total armored invasion attempt because of some nazis or a dozen level 2 or 3 biolabs. Jeeeeez!

You could argue whether it was Ukraine wanting to join NATO as a last straw.... or whether Biden really wants to rebuild the old soviet empire.

But the rest of these nazi/biolab stories are Russian propoganda being set to stage even greater atrocities and further THEIR game. Not ours. And not yours.

Good chance Putin is exaggerating the biolab story because he plans to Chem attack the Ukranians soon (since he isn't doing all that well in battle) and needs an excuse. Don't fall for it!
Good Grief. Wait until the truth comes out. You are believing the wrong side
 
Good Grief. Wait until the truth comes out. You are believing the wrong side

Good grief??? Truth??? Holy balls... this is the cray sh1t YOU believe:

From your post #58356 -- "This is what is really going on. Putin is Liberating the Ukraine from the cabal. Putin is with us.
Vladimir Putin has kept frequent contact with Donald J. Trump as Russian soldiers, aircraft, and warships continue to bombard eastern Ukraine, targeting not civilians but Western-sponsored bioweapons laboratories that zigzag the countryside like a child’s connect-the-dots puzzle, a Mar-a-Lago source told Real Raw News.
Our source emphasizes he is reporting only what Putin has told Trump; he is not attesting to the veracity of Putin’s statements, and Trump, he said, has yet to independently verify Putin’s claims.
On Thursday Trump reportedly took a third telephone call from Putin and was told the Russian military had obliterated 13 bioweapon facilities across Ukraine. Some were subterranean and struck several times to ensure their destruction.
Putin contended the West—the American NIH, France’s Institute of Health and Medical Research, and Germany’s Center for Infection Research–had funneled billions of dollars into the labs under the pretense of research grants. He claimed to have evidence, which he would eventually make public “when the world is willing to listen.”
According to Putin, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy knew about the laboratories and had received kickbacks in exchange for letting them operate clandestinely and without official oversight.
“Putin told Trump he gave Zelenskyy many warnings to dismantle the labs, as far back as February 2020, and warned he’d do it himself if Zelenskyy didn’t comply. He admitted to minor collateral damage, but told Trump that Zelenskyy had only himself to blame, for putting the people of the Ukraine in danger,” our source said.
Putin also namedropped Israel. He said the Israeli Health Ministry and the MOSSAD ran a biolab on Snake Island, a land mass that belonged to Ukraine, located in the Black Sea, near the Danube Delta, with an important role in delimiting Ukrainian territorial waters."

Yup, someone is "believing the wrong side". You and the dopey Q-disciples parroting the disinformation being spread by Putin, Xi, The Ayatollah, Little Kim, and Maduro. YOUR team, apparently. You should start spreading ISIS propoganda too and call Bingo. Sheeesh!
 
Quick - alert the Q's.

China says the Putin Biolab story is true and it confirms how Americans love vampire movies and that is why the US developed covid thru bats in the secret Ukrainian biolabs. LOL

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Speaking of bat-sh1t crazy, and all....
 
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This one is the longest at 12 mins. but shows putin speaking on the war in person.. you will not see this on MSM
 
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This one is the longest at 12 mins. but shows putin speaking on the war in person.. you will not see this on MSM

You dont stop bullying and "genocide" with much more genocide and much more humanitarian crimes.

Anyways that being said, alot of responsibility also lies in the west, Washington DC, and NATO, they are all evil.
 
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This one is the longest at 12 mins. but shows putin speaking on the war in person.. you will not see this on MSM

That footage of the Neo Nazi's paramilitary looks rather dramatic with the music in the background and chanting, but really whats that not even 50 people? Arent the Bugaloo boys larger than that LOL

The Ukrainian Neo Nazi forces
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cherry pick all you want.. Im just giving you the news from a non US angle.

also try telling that to the people of donesk or what ever
 
I just started watching Oliver Stone's Ukraine documentary from 2016, its banned on youtube but you can watch it here, and also download it without signing up.

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After being censored on YouTube, Oliver Stone has released his 2016 film to the public, covering Ukraine's complex history and build up to the political unrest we see today
Ukraine. Across its eastern border is Russia and to its west-Europe. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war between powers seeking to control its rich lands and access to the Black Sea. 2014's Maidan Massacre triggered a bloody uprising that ousted president Viktor Yanukovych and painted Russia as the perpetrator by Western media. But was it? "Ukraine on Fire" by Igor Lopatonok provides a historical perspective for the deep divisions in the region which lead to the 2004 Orange Revolution, 2014 uprisings, and the violent overthrow of democratically elected Yanukovych. Covered by Western media as a people's revolution, it was in fact a coup d'état scripted and staged by nationalist groups and the U.S. State Department. Investigative journalist Robert Parry reveals how U.S.-funded political NGOs and media companies have emerged since the 80s replacing the CIA in promoting America's geopolitical agenda abroad.
 
well to debate your post... just how in the fuk you think it started in germany that caused the pictures you used to compare. these modern nazis ARE part of their army as we speak. it will grow and it will metastasize

im actually leaning towards putins stance atm
 
well to debate your post... just how in the fuk you think it started in germany that caused the pictures you used to compare. these modern nazis ARE part of their army as we speak. it will grow and it will metastasize

Lets take out China and nuke Beijing then, they are far worse. They actually have real concentration camps targeting an ethnicity forcing them to heavy labor as they sell their body organs one by one trying to cleans their country of them. Why not obliderate Saudi Arabia for causing the worst current catastrophic genocide and humanitarian crisis on the planet today in Yemen instead of giving them arms and intel supporting the terror?

Ukraine is distraction and a war over resources and power, not over humanitarian purposes. Follow the money.
 
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Random snippets from bitchute does not make for a cohesive argument.
THAT is the problem with these "Q" conspiracy theories. They take tiny video moments and try to stich together some giant satanic blood sucking pedophile global cabal conspiracy to entertain a group of passionate followers with limited intellect.

Yes, there are Nazi's in Ukraine. Some.

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But the majority who elected a Jewish leader with 73% of the vote are not them. There is a big difference having a localized nazi problem and being a nation denying individual freedoms and trying to force their will upon the rest of the world, like nazis. The team you are campaigning for (Putin, Xi, Khamenei, Kim, Maduro) are the latter. And its sad that you are not able to see the difference... or support the general freedom loving people of Ukraine. Being bombed by the Russian army.

Yes, there is an Azov Batallion in Ukraine and some 10-20% of that one group are said to be neo-nazis. But then again, you have to be very careful who gets to decide what is a neo-nazi or white nationalist these days. Pretty sure YOU would be part of that group, depending on who gets to decide. The liberal dems are happy to lump everyone not in their camp as being white nationalists. The Proud Boys, Boogaloos, Jan 6th rioters, Freedom Truckers, Trump Supporters, and the Q-disciples!! Start playing games branding people "nazis"and you are doing the cabal's dirty work, and in the end they would put you into the same re-education camp.

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Think BIG picture. If Putin was telling the truth about Ukrainian nazis and biolabs being the reason to invade... then what was his excuse for Chechnya, Syria, Georgia, and starting in Kazakhstan and Moldova???

Putin is now sending Chechnya muslim troops under Ramzan Kadyrov to fight the Ukrainians now. The Asov batallion is dipping their bullets in pigs fat to send the russian muslim attackers to a greater hell. Which is fine by me.
 
Lets take out China and nuke Beijing then, they are far worse. They actually have real concentration camps targeting an ethnicity forcing them to heavy labor as they sell their body organs one by one trying to cleans their country of them. Why not obliderate Saudi Arabia for causing the worst current catastrophic genocide and humanitarian crisis on the planet today in Yemen instead of giving them arms and intel supporting the terror?

Ukraine is distraction and a war over resources and power, not over humanitarian purposes. Follow the money.
i absolutely agree ... but then, we are not talking about that atm. I am just stating that the US and UK MSM is not telling you anything accurate, and to discount the russians POV is what the US/NATO forces want you to do.

I agree with as well... follow the money.
 
i absolutely agree ... but then, we are not talking about that atm. I am just stating that the US and UK MSM is not telling you anything accurate, and to discount the russians POV is what the US/NATO forces want you to do.

I agree with as well... follow the money.

I agree with that too, they are only telling partial truths and claiming this war was started unprovoked when it absolutely was provoked by the US and NATO and the results today have been warned of via many people (including Groper Joe himself) for decades.

That being said, Im still rooting for the majority of Ukrainians to carve their own independence and path in life, but perhaps they do need to let go of those 2 eastern regions if they want a future. This is a big discussion though so Ill just leave it simple as that for now.
 
Yes, there is an Azov Batallion in Ukraine and some 10-20% of that one group are said to be neo-nazis. But then again, you have to be very careful who gets to decide what is a neo-nazi or white nationalist these days. Pretty sure YOU would be part of that group, depending on who gets to decide. The liberal dems are happy to lump everyone not in their camp as being white nationalists. The Proud Boys, Boogaloos, Jan 6th rioters, Freedom Truckers, Trump Supporters, and the Q-disciples!! Start playing games branding people "nazis"and you are doing the cabal's dirty work, and in the end they would put you into the same re-education camp.

I am not the claiming anything. they do it proudly for themselves.

Why does posting a few videos showing you primarily non American viewpoints make me a neo nazi. you are twisting a lot of BS here.
 
i absolutely agree ... but then, we are not talking about that atm. I am just stating that the US and UK MSM is not telling you anything accurate, and to discount the russians POV is what the US/NATO forces want you to do.

I agree with as well... follow the money.

Here is a super simple way to look at it....

America has nazi's
America has bio-weapons labs

How would you feel about Putin and the Russian army invading us here??????
 
Here is a super simple way to look at it....

America has nazi's
America has bio-weapons labs

How would you feel about Putin and the Russian army invading us here??????
first off.... what the fuk does that have to do with the discussion at hand? you want me to pick side. fuk NO. i wont.

for some reason you think i give two sh17s about what putin is doing or what the Ukraines are doing. war happens all the time. we need to stay the fuk out this one.

you seem to think its ok to start some sh17 with russia. I dont.
 
first off.... what the fuk does that have to do with the discussion at hand? you want me to pick side. fuk NO. i wont.

for some reason you think i give two sh17s about what putin is doing or what the Ukraines are doing. war happens all the time. we need to stay the fuk out this one.

you seem to think its ok to start some sh17 with russia. I dont.

What does it have to do with it ?!?!?
You apparently give way more than 2 sh1ts about what Putin is doing... all morning you were Putin's cheerleader, repeating his ridiculous claims.
You acted like you believed/accepted Putin's excuse to invade Ukraine was because they had nazis and biolabs.
You were repeating that theory and supporting it with cute little bitchute videos.

Until I made the point that America has nazis and biolabs too, and then it wasn't fun for you anymore??

I am all for your new position saying wars happen and that we should stay out of this one.
Maybe, maybe not. But a perfectly reasonable discussion.
But at least have some idea about what is actually happening... that Putin ISN'T just attacking secret biolabs to free the people of Ukraine who welcome him with flowers!! Putin might say that, but 40 million Ukrainians happen to disagree.

If this invasion is just because of Ukraine wanting to join NATO, I would understand that as a problem and something all sides can resolve. But it now seems this is more about Putin's ambitions to rebuild the soviet empire.
Also maybe not worth fighting for... unless Putin wants to take back the Baltics which are now part of NATO.

However, maybe we should stand with freedom loving countries that were attacked for no reason. Its a better cause than Vietnam or Afghanistan.
And that if a fight with Russia is inevitable, maybe now is the right time since they aren't doing very well.
Tough call.
But what we do here and now will affect China's decision to invade Taiwan, and Iran's decision to make a nuclear bomb.
 
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