Donald Trump running for president
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ax1
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Im not sure what that is, but did it seal on the face or were they open face covers that 99% of the population is wearing?
Im not trying to blame the fault of your FIL, Im just trying to point out the serious flaw with the masks because people who really care about virus protections must and absolutely must wear a real mask and government has failed to inform the public properly.
manifesto
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But....the science shows they do not slow it down.....the science is thin even for an N95 mask
tyga tyga
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Did you ever link the source for the dominion voter fraud? I can’t find anything.
ax1
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That should be your choice, and if someone chooses to wear a "real mask" then they have nothing to worry about even if they stand next to you.
Its that simple in addition to proper handling Ive talked about
ax1
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Its really simple to hack those machines, so regardless if there there is evidence this election or not the machines are at default insecure and invalid.
ax1
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Thats doesnt sound enough. There was a metal strip so it molded perfectly sealed over the nose as well? If not metal strip I dont see how its a legitimate mask.
There need not be any comprises, even if its seeping through the crack of the nose the mask wont protect anybody if virus is floating by.
Sorry Im drilling this here, but Im really serious about this because Ive been upset all year seeing high risk people wearing the equivelent of toilet paper on their faces in places they shouldnt be.
dixonk
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If we are talking anecdotally based on my school years...yes...yes they do all cheat
tyga tyga
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Drill away. I’ve got no reason to hide anything bud.
Yes, they stitched form fitting material (I never tore one open- something is on the bridge of the nose) in between the layers to completly seal around the nose, under the cheek bone and chin. Again, with antimicrobial backing as well.
Also, have you ever worn a n95? The metal guard loosens, it’s annoying.
ax1
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Ill take it further back and make the voting machines and mail in ballots irrelevant.
The fraud was committed when both duopoly parties rigged the American people of hearing the other top Presidential candidates on the debate stage.
But yes, the machines are illigitate, Ive been saying that for 11 years already on this forum in this thread and my old 9/11 thread.
You cant audit them, they are special propriety, some create their own paper trails after you vote, others can use simple malware to flip votes and clean all hacking traces.
The entire election is illegitimate. Yes. Absolutely.
tyga tyga
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If we are talking anecdotally based on my school years...yes...yes they do all cheat
Lol, I mean I’ve cheated on a test before too
dixonk
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Lol, I mean I’ve cheated on a test before too
So you are saying it’s plausible then?
ax1
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I used to wear n95 masks alot when I worked at a rock quarry, I used to be a Union Miner for a little less than a year.
I hate wearing n95, I dont miss that job, lol, you never get used to them. I just wear a simple face cover like most people and I honestly dont get much political about it outside of here and my close circles.
tyga tyga
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Lol nice try. No, two bad apples don’t set a precedent. Lol
Ricky10
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Things are getting crazier at work as far as restrictions (and cases). Within a week, all employees will have to sit 14 feet apart when our masks are off during eating/meals. They fail to realize we don’t have that kind of space- they will probably make us sign up for lunch space/time. Unfortunately, that won’t work as the medical field is unpredictable. They are also going to require that we wear masks before and after our shifts when walking to and from our cars outside.
Meanwhile, I have to reuse a China positive exposed N-95 mask (1 per shift)- repeatedly taking it on and off throughout the day. There are some f*cked up people out there imposing some serious bullshyt!
ax1
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If it was really up to me Id totally abolish all the parties from elections, even the Libertarian party Im a part of as of this year. They all become corrupt sooner or later and people just end up choosing before they even know who is running and simply vote party lines down the ballot whatever is thrown at them. No good.
dixonk
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What if all the votes went to trump. Then would there be a plausible case of voter fraud?
dixonk
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I’ve seen that type of system. You just will have 6 candidates on stage promising a bunch of free stuff. The person that promises the most free stuff and can make it believable wins. Some candidates only get 20% of the vote and win. There should be a few choices though to weed out the extreme stances of the right vs left.
tyga tyga
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Then we would see the Left crying voter fraud. Without a burden of proof/evidence it means nothing but a distraction IMO.
ax1
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George Washington did not belong to a political party. People laugh at me when I suggest that, but our Founding Father did it that way unfortunately he was our last President who did not run under a banner of a political cult.
One interesting concept to look at is the tiered voting system when you can pick your top 2 or 3 which will significantly empower those under the monopoly and take care of people who are chicken shyt to take chances (well, deservingly so, lol) Of course having legitimate secure voting machines would be a priority.
dixonk
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I guess we will have to wait and see when all the poll workers who are planning on testifying have to say. Perhaps the pictures and video of mail in ballots being lost, thrown away, undelivered, and destroyed by the hands of postal workers wasn’t enough to get peoples attention. Or the evidence of people’s pets getting ballots. Or the evidence of dozens of ballots being sent to a single address. Or the actual evidence of an entire county switching Trump votes to Biden.
Me, personally, I think there is more than enough suspicion and things that don’t look, sound, or smell right. This stuff needs to be investigated, proven, and fixed or we will never have a free and fair election.
ax1
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The left did on levels Ive never seen before my entire life the past 4 years without burden of proof/evidence. Did you just wake from a coma?? RRROOFFLLLL!!!!!!!!!
ax1
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On another note, many of them including CiaNN have bought up concerns specifically with voting machines and voter fraud. But everything seemed to run perfectly their way this time...at least for now and the next few weeks, lol
ax1
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LOL English is my second language, but it is by far my best most natural complete language. I had to take ESL even in high school. People cant really tell by talking to me though.
tyga tyga
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I guess we will have to wait and see when all the poll workers who are planning on testifying have to say. Perhaps the pictures and video of mail in ballots being lost, thrown away, undelivered, and destroyed by the hands of postal workers wasn’t enough to get peoples attention. Or the evidence of people’s pets getting ballots. Or the evidence of dozens of ballots being sent to a single address. Or the actual evidence of an entire county switching Trump votes to Biden.
Me, personally, I think there is more than enough suspicion and things that don’t look, sound, or smell right. This stuff needs to be investigated, proven, and fixed or we will never have a free and fair election.
Oh, I’m excited. Especially since a few of poll workers have already declined to go through with testifying.
*let me make this abundantly clear, I do not agree with absentee voting/mail in*
Trumps attorneys already acknowledged they can’t find voter fraud. But, I can’t wait to see how this unfolds lol
ax1
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Whats alarming to me was the CCP-Virus protocols for the observers. How do you observe what you cannot see?
And they are doing a recount but I dont think they are authenticating the votes which doesnt solve or confirm the legal votes. They are just recounting them.
ax1
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I just want to add to this, The USA isnt a two party system...we have more than a handful of parties people. We had other candidates including Prez on the official ballot. Jo Jorgenses was even a mandatory in all 50 states which was the first time in L's history.
The Republicrat and Demican party all belong to the same party. Not talking about the voters here just those lifelong elites.
The con job is that debate platform. It used to be 5% national polling to get in. Ross Perot got himself in the 90s with over 7%, so then they changed the rules to 15%. 4 years ago Gary Johnson was hitting 13% on a bunch of polls, so this year they chose to leave Jo Jorgenses completely out of most of the polls. So its a complete rigged screw job....so if your talking where Im from, the election was rigged way before 11/3. Its another issue I know the difference but its an important one to bring up as I see the con men and cowards crying rig job when they are the cowards and riggers themselves (cough, that include Dump too, especially Dump!)
Ricky10
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Something tells me that these reports we hear from Trump lawyers and such are either fake news to keep the Biden hoax rolling, or the lawyers aren’t divulging any real developments to the media because they know it will somehow be manipulated against them. Also, we don’t need democratic voters having premature ongoing hissy fits from now to January. I suspect there are many behind the scenes investigations that are being kept relatively quiet along with Trump himself. It’s in their best interest to keep the media in the dark as much as possible, and give them as little as possible.
It will all come out later when enough evidence is available to crush China Joe and villainize everyone involved.
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Ricky10
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Does he not realize that more people are going to die anyway? He doesn’t understand or acknowledge the nature of the China virus. He’s already failed us without ever getting into office.
ax1
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I couldn't imagine being in the shoes of one of these witnesses willing to testify, the hatred and potential safety risks to their well being and harassment.
Jiigzz
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Do you not understand how swabbing works?
It is in droplets, so breathing onto a bit of fabric isn't how you get an accurate test. You also need to be sure the droplets came from the subject.
You are right though, logic and critical thinking has gone out the window
Jiigzz
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Man, you really dont understand how it works at all.
Droplets from an unmasked person can still spread to a person with a mask, and then all it takes it for them to adjust the mask and touch a contaminated area for it to pass into an orifice.
When you have more people wearing them properly, the droplets get caught in the masks. Obviously some will get out from incorrect wearing, but it would be far, far less than if they just didnt bother at all. Invalid Link Removed
In before "but muh freedumzz"
ax1
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I have been preaching proper handling but yes you are right if everybody wore a mask there would be less shooting out.
Yes "muh freedumzz," people are free to just stay home and take their own risks when they choose, government doesnt give a crap about people but they do know how to make their lobbyists happy and love their new powers and control that they will never relinquish. I bet most of them couldnt believe how easy it was, but DARPA doesnt let our tax dollars to go to waste and just let their research projects sit on the shelf.
GreenMachineX
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I’m curious to what the treatment they used for you and your family was if you don’t mind sharing.
tyga tyga
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FIL: Remdesivir, dexamethasone, Actemra
-they kept him HEAVILY sedated with Ativan.
Me- Diclofenac for body pain, tessalon pearls for coughing, promethazine for sleeping. Same for the wife. There isn’t really anything they can treat as far as the virus goes, can only manage symptoms. For my heart/heart rate, they said to stay hydrated lol and come back if my watch shows high heart rate again. Couldn’t do anything for the chest/heart inflammation.
tyga tyga
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This may help as well. My wife sent it to me lol thought you’d get a kick out of it.
dixonk
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If the virus doesn’t come onto a napkin would you say that it’s probably not going to come out on your face? There is no reason they need to stick a swab 4” up your nostril to find a “extremely contagious” virus.
HIT4ME
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Sorry man, this is not logical. Using your logic you could walk into a room where someone had the flu and test the air. It doesn't work like that. The virus is in droplets that dispurse into the air. Collecting those droplets in any meaningful concentration for testing is pretty difficult. But going to the breeding ground where they have colonized and concentrated is going to make collection a lot easier.
And of course, just because we can't detect it doesn't mean we can't get sick from it - our technology is not limitless. The idea we have limitless tech is part of the stupidity that has people blaming the gov't for a frigging virus. It isn't Trumps fault, or anyone's fault. They had no control.
But of course, if people in the 1800's applied your logic and it worked, they would have never been sick at all. At that point in time, no one had detected a germ, bacteria or virus at all. Since they lacked the tech to detect it in a room, or even with a swab, did that mean they don't exist?
But you are playing into the line in the sand politicizing of this. The gov't should not limit our freedoms. I believe in the greater power of personal freedoms, but I also believe that if people want freedoms they have to accept the responsibilities and consequences that go with that.
You do this every day. You have a gun, and I bet you are very safe and well trained with it. Yes, you have that freedom, but in exercising it you have also exercised your responsibility - and if you didn't you should bear the consequences. As much as people talk tough, I have a feeling you probably understand the responsibility behind taking a life better than most.