Aleksandar37
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So why do you believe one over the other?
Donald Trump running for president
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So why do you believe one over the other?
Aleksandar37
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Here we go!
Here we go!
youngandfree
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That's pretty simple. Durbin has been caught lying before and he's a race baiting POS. He hasn't testified under oath that Trump said ****hole. She testified he didnt.
CompeteNPC
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They all pay eachother under the table.
I for one am fine with Trump. He speaks his mind and atleast doesn't try to be politically correct. I respect someone who thinks another country is a POS and doesn't hold back. It doesn't make him racist at all. Tell me the last time Haiti was a nice place to live? They don't even have running water. It is in fact a ****hole. Nothing to do with color of the people there either.
Also sit back and think about this for a second. Trump is doing us all a favor! Its one less person you will be paying for through taxes. Its one less person we have to worry about bringing and exposing us to a disease that we don't want over here in America. Look at HIV for example, and I'm being serious. Do you know where that originated? Africa. How about the EBOLA virus? Another african disease. Has nothing to do with the color of their skin, they could be green for all I care. Its about protecting the people that live in America and not allowing garbage to continue to flow in here. Pretty soon we are going to be like China with our overpopulation if we are not careful. As a taxpayer and a citizen of this country, I do not want that stuff brought in here. I have that right to voice my opinion and many others share the same belief as I do. As politically incorrect Trump is, I Will voting for him again in 2020. The company I work for has been breaking records ever since he was elected by the way. Our sales are up 40 %.
youngandfree
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Durbin on Tuesday urged Republican leadership to take up the DACA deal the bipartisan group of lawmakers had reached, saying the agreement had "met the president's criteria." Durbin also accused Trump of not standing by his pledge to support any deal reached by lawmakers on immigration.
“Remember at one point when he said, ‘whatever you send me I’ll sign. I’ll take the political heat on this’?" Durbin said. "Well [when] we showed up Thursday with our bipartisan bill and presented it to him it was a much different story.”
It seems Durbin is just butt hurt.
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“Remember at one point when he said, ‘whatever you send me I’ll sign. I’ll take the political heat on this’?" Durbin said. "Well [when] we showed up Thursday with our bipartisan bill and presented it to him it was a much different story.”
It seems Durbin is just butt hurt.
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CompeteNPC
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Of course he is and he's trying to sabotage the President of the United States. He better feel lucky he isn't in China, they would have shot him in the head by now in front of the public.
Aleksandar37
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Durbin was an idiot for thinking Trump would keep a promise on something he changes his mind on daily, but I'm not sure why the focus is just on Durbin. He confirmed the statement, but he's not the only one and not the origin.
CompeteNPC
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Durbin comes from the most corrupt state in the country. Guys an idiot. TRUMP 2020!! TRUMP 4 LIFE!
youngandfree
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Durbin is the origin of it. He came out of the meeting and started crying to the press. No one else said anything until after he did.
Aleksandar37
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I'm neither and calling him a racist as well. How exactly are your two points connected? Google 'post hoc ergo propter hoc'
Aleksandar37
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Did you watch or read the actual testimony of Nielsen? She doesn't say that Trump didn't say it, but says that she doesn't recall hearing it. She also magically can't remember what any of them said when asked for examples of tough language.
thebigt
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where I come from having a job is a good thing...kind of ironic that black/Hispanic unemployment was so high under Obama and now so low under trump...the counter to this is to call trump a racist.
Aleksandar37
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Having a job is a good thing. How does that correlate with whether or not Trump is a racist? It doesn't. Trump's own words are a much better indication...here's the cliffs notes version Invalid Link Removed
You're also forgetting to add in that black unemployment is still higher than overall unemployment.
thebigt
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isn't it ironic...
trump makes derogatory remarks, but improves the living conditions of those who are disparaged...
the dems say all the right things and kiss ass, but when given the opportunity they do nothing to improve conditions, if anything make conditions worse.
Aleksandar37
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What living conditions are being improved for minorities?! Puerto Rico when he **** all over them in their time of need? Continually saying that he only wants white people coming into this country? Please at least give an example.
ax1
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Dump’s real-estate company tried to avoid renting apartments to African-Americans in the 1970s and gave preferential treatment to whites, according to the federal government.
Maybe more applicants that happen to be white had better financial security than those who happen to be black at that time period....It doesnt mean they were selectively excluding blacks but its easy to interpret it that way.
Dump treated black employees at his casinos differently from whites, according to multiple sources. A former hotel executive said Dump criticized a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”
Thats not proof, people often hate their bosses and say things to slander them.
In 1989, Dump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.
He hated their crimes and wanted the death penalty for them. As much as I disagree with this type of penalty, there is nothing racist here. If those people were white and Dump called out for the same penalty it probably wouldn't have made this NYT article as there is nothing politically to gain from it.
In 1989, on NBC, Dump said: “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really believe they do have an actual advantage.”
That just tells me he is just more of an idiot, but not a racist. If a black man says "I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really believe they do have an actual advantage," its normal, but when its the other way around its racist. Its all hypocrisy to me.
He spent years suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya, a lie that Dump still has not acknowledged as such.
Posting a fake birth certificate on whitehouse.gov isnt honest either.
Ok I gotta get back to work but Dump is just another unconstitutional war mongering big government lunatic, but I never got the racist part other than to politically bring this lunatic down.
thebigt
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man, did you see the devastation in Puerto rico? a lot of the population has relocated to the mainland.
what do you think the ratio of white versus non-white immigration over the last 20 years has been?
a low unemployment rate in this economy is nothing short of amazing, imo...but it won't last. the need for unskilled labor is fast declining and soon the supply will far exceed the demand.
don't forget those crumbs Pelosi has been talking about...that is real money in pockets of poor working class--increased earned income and double the standard deduction will absolutely benefit the poor.
Aleksandar37
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I did as I have friends who live there. Trump ignored them just like he ignored Hawaii the other day, although that only lasted a half hour, but a half hour is a long ass time when you think a missile is on the way. But hey, good thing Trump tweeted about it the following day...and it wasn't even his first tweet that next day!
I have no idea what the ratio is. Why does that matter?
And I'll wait and see what happens with the taxes. Even Republicans have said there will be cuts (including Medicare and Social Security) next year to make up for these changes in taxes. So again, small change this year doesn't mean anything if you're getting screwed for way more down the line.
thebigt
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I truly empathize with he people of PR, I can visualize how horrible it must be, and to live it is beyond what I can imagine, horrible...not to make excuses, but there was a lot on trumps plate as a newly elected president-I hope and pray he tried to do his best in a very bad situation.
the republicans talk a lot and don't actually come together to get much done, I'm really surprised they passed the tax bill!!! medicare/SS and entitlements are safe, I can't see republicans coming together to vote on cuts, and good golly-no chance of picking up democrat support, lol.
youngandfree
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If you didn't just read NYT and CNN, you'd know he didn't say that either.
Here's a pull quote.
I thought this passage in the Post account was notable: “[Trump] also objected that Democratic proposals to adjust the visa lottery and federal policy for immigrants with temporary protected status were going to drive more people from countries he deemed undesirable into the United States instead of attracting immigrants from places like Norway and Asia, people familiar with the meeting said.”
The Trump hating media have only said he wants white people from Norway.
youngandfree
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Why would the feds need to seize relief materials if there were none sent to PR?
youngandfree
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How did Trump ignore Hawaii exactly?
rascal14
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He was golfing. I think that is all that needs to be said lol
There's a .0001% chance he didn't hear of the issue almost immediately, yet had no care to comment on it.
thebigt
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they all golf...it's what they do.:1244:
rascal14
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Yeah, but when Trump feels the need to criticize Obama for golfing, yet he has gone golfing how many times in one year, compared to Obama in his entire presidency? I'm definitely don't hate Trump as much as most people, I just think he's a moron.
"President Obama should have gone to Louisiana days ago, instead of golfing. Too little, too late!"
10:15 AM - Aug 23, 2016
"While our wonderful president was out playing golf all day, the TSA is falling apart, just like our government! Airports a total disaster!"
4:56 AM - May 21, 2016
"President Obama has a major meeting on the N.Y.C. Ebola outbreak, with people flying in from all over the country, but decided to play golf!"
9:54 PM - Oct 23, 2014
youngandfree
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Why would the POTUS be required to make a public comment on it before the emergency management folks that sent out the false warning to begin with?
The warning didn't come from the feds or the military, so what makes you think he actually heard about it immediately?
rascal14
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Never said they should've been first.
He is the president of the United States, he would have heard something that drastic pretty quickly, no matter where it originated.
My point is, he almost certainly knew about it within the 30 minutes of it happening, he is tweeting nonsense all the time, but it took him until the next day to acknowledge it.
thebigt
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the TRUMP works in mysterious ways, lol.
LiveToLift
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Many will claim he is "Not my president" though so... But in any case, the Dow could be at a record high, unemployment dropping, taxes lowering and people would still say it has nothing to do with the current office. See what I did there?
Just like that I will now ignore all the hate mail coming my way!
rascal14
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Many will claim he is "Not my president" though so... But in any case, the Dow could be at a record high, unemployment dropping, taxes lowering and people would still say it has nothing to do with the current office. See what I did there?
Just like that I will now ignore all the hate mail coming my way!
Those that claim he isn’t their president are dumber than he is.. lol it is a fact that if you live in the US that Donald Trump is your president, whether you like him or not.
I’m not going to claim I know really anything about politics because I don’t follow it enough.
Aleksandar37
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Who is reading NYT and CNN? Are you psychic now too ****head? I wasn't only referring to what happened this week, thus "continually." I know that's a big word for you, but try anyway.
ax1
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I didnt vote for him, so no he isnt my president. He is the President of my country but he doesnt have to be my President.
Aleksandar37
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You got your explanation and you made your excuse as usual. If it was the black guy, you'd be screaming for impeachment. Just be honest already.
Also, why should Trump at the very least comment?! BECAUSE HE'S THE MOTHER****ING PRESIDENT YOU ****ING RETARD! An entire state under him thought they were under missile attack which is a very real possibility due to his tweeting like a teenage bitch. Whatever happened to taking responsibility and the buck stops here?
ax1
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Why?
ax1
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He most absolutely is not my president, never was and never will. My president would be one who will protect and defend the United States Constitution, Dump does not represent that man. As far as Im concerned he should be impeached for multiple violations of oath of office day 1. He is no longer qualified to be president.
LiveToLift
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Certainly confuses me as well. I don't care for the man but we were pretty much given a pretty shît group to pick from for sure. He did win the election there for he most certainly is our president.
DemntedCowboy
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Just happened a few blocks from my house...Allen Park, MI
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Just happened a few blocks from my house...Allen Park, MI
thebigt
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I didn't vote for Obama...but still had to suffer through 8 years of pure torment.
I love seeing the trump haters get a taste of what I went through!!!!:bigok:
thebigt
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damn...hope everyone is ok!!!
DemntedCowboy
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Me too, hit a populated neighborhood
DemntedCowboy
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What sense does that make impeached and re-elected????
ax1
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What the krap??? Glad your safe, hope nobody was hurt!!!!
DemntedCowboy
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ax1
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I didnt say he will be impeached, but nobody is going to convince me he doesnt have multiple impeachable offenses. Also, I never said he wont be re-elected, he very well may be relected by a landslide, but that doesnt prove he isnt a big government unconstitutional President who consistently violates his oath of office just like his predecessor.
I dont care much for Republicans, I dont know what there is to brag about there, they primarily are just like Democrats, their policies are barely any different. A vote for a Republicrat is a vote for a Demican.
ax1
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They all lose, the prison industrial complex is supported by both! Not to say I dont think real criminals belong there, thats not my point, lol
I bet you 0.00000034 bitcoins prisoners have a higher vote % actually counted at elections than our own military.