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BamBam0319 said:
Have you guys looked more into the Vegas shooting? I saw some footage of gunfire from the 4th floor, not the 32nd, and there are some other things that make you think "hmm...."
Apparently when this was occurring all of the concert exits were blocked off. All the attendees were stuck in the kill zone with nowhere to go.
Also when the concert began there were two people escorted from the venue because they were making people uncomfortable with how they were telling everyone that "they were all going to die here."

Another somewhat related note, it drives me crazy that some people along the political spectrum are using this incident as reason to get rid of the 2nd amendment, crack down on the NRA, etc... not to mention the scumbag media employees who have said they don't feel bad about the victims because they were likely republicans.
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It was only a matter of time until a conspiracy was thrown about. The dust hasn't even settled.

Who is your source? Were you there?

While you guys in the US repeatedly ignore it, 1st world countries with tight gun laws simply dont have mass shootings. Australia, which had a huge mass shooting, tightened its gun laws nationwide and guess what? 7800+ days without a shooting.

Then Amercians use the "gun free zones dont work, so why would a nationwide ban?", forgetting that a "zone" is only a small part of your country and that you can still readily access guns at those locations.

As long as America has lax gun laws (your right, of course) you have to accept that some people will use that liberty to hurt others. That's a risk you accept, so stop shifting the blame to a conspiracy trying to find anything that will defend your stance, and make a martyr out of a murderer

While your stance might not be this, for some reason people go to extra effort to defend a white shooter than a brown, black, hispanic or muslim shooter. In the case of minorities it's always "drugs, gangs or terrorism", in the case of a white shooter "CIA was involved, it was done to take away ma guns".

Yes, sure it was.
 
Jiigzz said:
It was only a matter of time until a conspiracy was thrown about. The dust hasn't even settled.

Who is your source? Were you there?

While you guys in the US repeatedly ignore it, 1st world countries with tight gun laws simply dont have mass shootings. Australia, which had a huge mass shooting, tightened its gun laws nationwide and guess what? 7800+ days without a shooting.

Then Amercians use the "gun free zones dont work, so why would a nationwide ban?", forgetting that a "zone" is only a small part of your country and that you can still readily access guns at those locations.

As long as America has lax gun laws (your right, of course) you have to accept that some people will use that liberty to hurt others. That's a risk you accept, so stop shifting the blame to a conspiracy trying to find anything that will defend your stance, and make a martyr out of a murderer

While your stance might not be this, for some reason people go to extra effort to defend a white shooter than a brown, black, hispanic or muslim shooter. In the case of minorities it's always "drugs, gangs or terrorism", in the case of a white shooter "CIA was involved, it was done to take away ma guns".

Yes, sure it was.
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As a realist and skeptic, I never gave much credit to conspiracy theories in the past, turned out I was wrong.
Some of them are true -and were admitted to be true.
Not talking about reptilians here -but for instance false flag operations and MK-Ultra.

[video=youtube;KRTOB8JPwa8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTOB8JPwa8[/video]

When something like the Vegas massacre occurs, my first question is: Who is benefiting from it? Whats the motive?
 
Jiigzz said:
It was only a matter of time until a conspiracy was thrown about. The dust hasn't even settled.

Who is your source? Were you there?

While you guys in the US repeatedly ignore it, 1st world countries with tight gun laws simply dont have mass shootings. Australia, which had a huge mass shooting, tightened its gun laws nationwide and guess what? 7800+ days without a shooting.

Then Amercians use the "gun free zones dont work, so why would a nationwide ban?", forgetting that a "zone" is only a small part of your country and that you can still readily access guns at those locations.

As long as America has lax gun laws (your right, of course) you have to accept that some people will use that liberty to hurt others. That's a risk you accept, so stop shifting the blame to a conspiracy trying to find anything that will defend your stance, and make a martyr out of a murderer

While your stance might not be this, for some reason people go to extra effort to defend a white shooter than a brown, black, hispanic or muslim shooter. In the case of minorities it's always "drugs, gangs or terrorism", in the case of a white shooter "CIA was involved, it was done to take away ma guns".

Yes, sure it was.
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Video in this clip shows what appears to be gunfire muzzle flashes from a window much lower than the 32nd floor.

I'll keep my guns, thank you.
 
Jiigzz said:
It was only a matter of time until a conspiracy was thrown about. The dust hasn't even settled.

Who is your source? Were you there?

While you guys in the US repeatedly ignore it, 1st world countries with tight gun laws simply dont have mass shootings. Australia, which had a huge mass shooting, tightened its gun laws nationwide and guess what? 7800+ days without a shooting.

Then Amercians use the "gun free zones dont work, so why would a nationwide ban?", forgetting that a "zone" is only a small part of your country and that you can still readily access guns at those locations.

As long as America has lax gun laws (your right, of course) you have to accept that some people will use that liberty to hurt others. That's a risk you accept, so stop shifting the blame to a conspiracy trying to find anything that will defend your stance, and make a martyr out of a murderer

While your stance might not be this, for some reason people go to extra effort to defend a white shooter than a brown, black, hispanic or muslim shooter. In the case of minorities it's always "drugs, gangs or terrorism", in the case of a white shooter "CIA was involved, it was done to take away ma guns".

Yes, sure it was.
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you have to get your head around the fact that America isn't 'other places'!!!
 
You can't assume that laws from another country will work the same in another. The culture is different, violent crimes will always exist whether is from guns, cars, knives, or anything.

Conspiracy or not, the shooting was a horrible tragedy.

Also IMO If it is a conspiracy it probably was the CIA. We'll never know though, all we know is this current government at hand is full of agencies and individuals with private interests. Including the corporations that have politicians in their pockets.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Have you guys looked more into the Vegas shooting? I saw some footage of gunfire from the 4th floor, not the 32nd, and there are some other things that make you think "hmm...."
Apparently when this was occurring all of the concert exits were blocked off. All the attendees were stuck in the kill zone with nowhere to go.
Also when the concert began there were two people escorted from the venue because they were making people uncomfortable with how they were telling everyone that "they were all going to die here."

Another somewhat related note, it drives me crazy that some people along the political spectrum are using this incident as reason to get rid of the 2nd amendment, crack down on the NRA, etc... not to mention the scumbag media employees who have said they don't feel bad about the victims because they were likely republicans.
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Here we go.....
 
youngandfree said:
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Video in this clip shows what appears to be gunfire muzzle flashes from a window much lower than the 32nd floor.

I'll keep my guns, thank you.
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And if this completely unsupported conspiracy theory is correct, does that mean that your hero Trump gave the order?
 
youngandfree said:
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Video in this clip shows what appears to be gunfire muzzle flashes from a window much lower than the 32nd floor.

I'll keep my guns, thank you.
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If true it'll go unnoticed and forgotten just like the 2nd individual that helped that orange haired guy in the movie theater.
 
There's audio of a first responder saying he saw muzzle flashes "halfway up" the Mandalay. Is that the 4th floor?


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only thing I can figure is that this guy really, really, hated country music....
 
Misfit28 said:
There's audio of a first responder saying he saw muzzle flashes "halfway up" the Mandalay. Is that the 4th floor?


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Here's cell phone video from a cabby showing flashes that are coming from much lower than the 32nd floor.
 
Misfit28 said:
There's audio of a first responder saying he saw muzzle flashes "halfway up" the Mandalay. Is that the 4th floor?


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So he was scanning the entire building and only saw flashes from high up? If you look up and see flashes from one window, you might not take time to scan all of them.
 
youngandfree said:
So he was scanning the entire building and only saw flashes from high up? If you look up and see flashes from one window, you might not take time to scan all of them.
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It was also a police officer, so you know he might have some experience with looking for muzzle flashes.
 
youngandfree said:
Remember all those in attendance where racist Trump supporters. Ask the now unemployed CBS lawyer.
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Lol, ok. You really do have some screws loose.

So you can confirm those aren't reflections of something else flashing? The sounds don't even match up with the supposed muzzle flashes.
 
Misfit28 said:
Well, Trump is the President isn't he?

Is that a conspiracy?

I guarantee if this was on Obama's watch that accusation would be made.
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I mean, if that's the justification you wanna use to say what you said, sure man.
I'm sure you're bright enough to know a lot goes on in government that doesn't first have to go through the White House to be approved.
Thanks Obama.
 
Well that took less than a day to go from prayers and love to jokes and conspiracy theories based on photos/videos a stranger took and put on the internet. It seems pretty common for white trash pieces of **** to make up these conspiracies to make themselves feel better rather than admitting their role in this repeatedly happening.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Well that took less than a day to go from prayers and love to jokes and conspiracy theories based on photos/videos a stranger took and put on the internet. It seems pretty common for white trash pieces of **** to make up these conspiracies to make themselves feel better rather than admitting their role in this repeatedly happening.
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I think it's perfectly acceptable to discuss things including bits of information from witnesses that don't seem to add up.
Aleksandar37 said:
And you know this how?
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Oh come on? It's common sense, don't be thick.
 
Misfit28 said:
Lol, ok. You really do have some screws loose.

So you can confirm those aren't reflections of something else flashing? The sounds don't even match up with the supposed muzzle flashes.
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You know light travels faster than sound right? You didn't learn that in all that college education?
 
BamBam0319 said:
I think it's perfectly acceptable to discuss things including bits of information from witnesses that don't seem to add up.


Oh come on? It's common sense, don't be thick.
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It's not common sense mother****er. Over 50 ****ing people died and you're in here spouting off fairy tales. If you have working knowledge of something, then lets hear it. Otherwise don't ****ing claim to know how something works when you have no ****ing clue.
 
Leave it to the dense liberal f*ckheads to take the discussion of possibilities and turn it into insults. Lmao. Pathetic.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Leave it to the dense liberal f*ckheads to take the discussion of possibilities and turn it into insults. Lmao. Pathetic.
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You should be ashamed of yourself as a ****ing human being you complete pile of ****. You're not talking possibilities. Go ahead and try to justify how pathetic you are sitting in your ****ing mother's basement or wherever the **** you are. Over 50 people and you're pissing on their deaths with your conspiracy bull**** after a single day?!?! ****ing ****.
 
Misfit28 said:
Lol, ok. You really do have some screws loose.

So you can confirm those aren't reflections of something else flashing? The sounds don't even match up with the supposed muzzle flashes.
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How do I have a screw loose when this lib made the statements, not me?
 
Aleksandar37 said:
It's not common sense mother****er. Over 50 ****ing people died and you're in here spouting off fairy tales. If you have working knowledge of something, then lets hear it. Otherwise don't ****ing claim to know how something works when you have no ****ing clue.
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Yeah. It is definitely common sense. Lmao with the size of the American government, everything does NOT have to go through the WH first. Mother****er.
I'm not spouting off fairy tales, I mentioned some witness accounts of some strange things that occurred. I think it's totally within reason to discuss them. Or just go around insulting people because you're a giant human sized douche.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
You should be ashamed of yourself as a ****ing human being you complete pile of ****. You're not talking possibilities. Go ahead and try to justify how pathetic you are sitting in your ****ing mother's basement or wherever the **** you are. Over 50 people and you're pissing on their deaths with your conspiracy bull**** after a single day?!?! ****ing ****.
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Cute. Keep spewing hateful sh*t while I continue to go about my life. I don't have to justify a damned thing to you, and I won't.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Yeah. It is definitely common sense. Lmao with the size of the American government, everything does NOT have to go through the WH first. Mother****er.
I'm not spouting off fairy tales, I mentioned some witness accounts of some strange things that occurred. I think it's totally within reason to discuss them. Or just go around insulting people because you're a giant human sized douche.
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I'm insulting a useless, naive ****tard who hasn't accomplished ****, but thinks he knows how the world works. You're insulting a bunch of innocent people who were murdered. There's a slight difference.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I'm insulting a useless, naive ****tard who hasn't accomplished ****, but thinks he knows how the world works. You're insulting a bunch of innocent people who were murdered. There's a slight difference.
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I'm not insulting anyone except for you buddy. But keep talking sh*t. It's really making a difference!
 
Misfit28 said:
Yeah, I know that trollboy.

No sense talking to a moron like you who believes anything.
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Then you would know that the sound of gun fire doesn't match the sight of the muzzle flash when you are a distance away. You made the absurd claim about the sound and visual not matching up. I'm reminding you that's called physics.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Yeah. It is definitely common sense. Lmao with the size of the American government, everything does NOT have to go through the WH first. Mother****er.
I'm not spouting off fairy tales, I mentioned some witness accounts of some strange things that occurred. I think it's totally within reason to discuss them. Or just go around insulting people because you're a giant human sized douche.
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So, supposedly "strange" things occurred and the automatic reaction is that it's all a conspiracy? What a moronic assumption.
 
youngandfree said:
You said "Lol, you really do have some screws loose" because I mentioned this lady in response to your statement about "did Trump order the massacre"
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So your proof backing up that Trump didn't order this supposed conspiracy is that a CBS lady said she didn't care because they were Trump supporters?

Once again, it's a supposed "conspiracy". We're dealing with a total fairy tale at this point.
 
Misfit28 said:
So your proof backing up that Trump didn't order this supposed conspiracy is that a CBS lady said she didn't care because they were Trump supporters?

Once again, it's a supposed "conspiracy". We're dealing with a total fairy tale at this point.
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You think that every conspiracy has to run through the President. I'm pointing out that libs think only gun toting republicans would go to a country music festival anyway. You made the comment about Trump ordering it. I'm pointing out the absurdity of your comment.
 
Misfit28 said:
So, supposedly "strange" things occurred and the automatic reaction is that it's all a conspiracy? What a moronic assumption.
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How am I perpetuating a conspiracy if I'm just bringing up witness accounts?
 
Misfit28 said:
Quite a few. Handguns, shotguns and rifles. I've never fired a full auto before.

I live in the South, man.

Nice assumption, there.
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If you're as experienced as you say, then you'd know that there isn't always a muzzle flash every time you pull the trigger.
 
youngandfree said:
If you're as experienced as you say, then you'd know that there isn't always a muzzle flash every time you pull the trigger.
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Never said I was super experienced. I said I've fired handguns, shotguns and rifles.

So, why would there not be a muzzle flash every time you fire a round?

I'm honestly curious, as that doesn't really make sense to me.
 
how in the world did he get all of those weapons AND ammo up into that room?

I've heard that the room on the 32nd floor would have to of been booked at least 3 weeks in advance. when means he had premeditation-duh.

most of the experts say those weapons were either 1. manufactured to be automatics[which is illegal to own] and I assume very difficult to purchase, or 2. have been modified to automatic which is also illegal.

if the fbi is as good as I think they are it should only be a matter of days to track down who he was in contact with to either purchase the manufactured guns, or the person who modified them....I've heard differing viewpoints on how easy it is to modify from semi to fully automatic, but either way there has to be a trail....

the number one reason why criminals get caught is because people talk, with something of this magnitude I am sure that eventually people will be talking.
 
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