Donald Trump running for president
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AE14
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Its at about 40 seconds in. She states she would be so upset. My phraseology was not 100% accurate. However, you can see she was bothered by blow the belt <rightfully so> but not above the waist, which was my point
Its at about 40 seconds in. She states she would be so upset. My phraseology was not 100% accurate. However, you can see she was bothered by blow the belt <rightfully so> but not above the waist, which was my point
Misfit28
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And what exactly is that point? I'm trying not to put words in your mouth here.
So that excuses him from going below the waist? I just fail to see the point here.
Misfit28
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And he's (Bill) running for office now?
Misfit28
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Wrong.
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Here's the quote:
"Donald Trump has called your dad an abuser of women, and your mom his enabler. What do you think of his attacks on your parents?
I find what Donald Trump — and many of the Republicans, because it's not only Mr. Trump — say about Americans far more troubling than what he says about my parents. And people have been attacking my parents my whole life, so maybe I am just inured to that, but I tend to think that people who are at the forefront of progress do attract more negative attention from those who want to protect the status quo.
But what I have found surprising and really disturbing in this election cycle is the broad-based misogyny and sexism and racism and Islamophobia and jingoism and homophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric. All of that is coming out from the Republican side. That somehow has become normalized because it's now just so common, not only [for] Mr. Trump, but for other candidates to say things that I think are so fundamentally un-American. To call into the question the right of any person who has chosen to come to our country with the intent of working hard and making a contribution and wants a chance at the American Dream, to somehow say that that person disqualifies from being here because of the country they come from, their sexual orientation, or the religion they adhere to — that's what I find far more troubling, and I find that troubling because that does seem to have become unexceptional in a really perverse way. The hate speech that has somehow become one of the main calling cards of Republicans, I find really, really troubling."
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Gutterpump
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It's a clear sign of desperation that Bill is even being brought into it at all.
AE14
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I appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.
My point is to get the entirety of the story....if he did this, its terrible and shouldn't be running for president.
However, yes Bill is not running, but will have an active role per HRC. What Bill has done is far worse.
Now, with that said, HRC should not be permitted to be President either. Firstly, we already know she violated federal law and lied to congress and the FBI. The slow and steady stream with Wikileaks is building nicely.
Honestly, as I have said here multiple times, I would be much happier if they both dropped out
Misfit28
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I appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.
My point is to get the entirety of the story....if he did this, its terrible and shouldn't be running for president.
However, yes Bill is not running, but will have an active role per HRC. What Bill has done is far worse.
Now, with that said, HRC should not be permitted to be President either. Firstly, we already know she violated federal law and lied to congress and the FBI. The slow and steady stream with Wikileaks is building nicely.
Honestly, as I have said here multiple times, I would be much happier if they both dropped out
I do recall you saying that before. Wikileaks blew their credibility with me after the false attribution. Who know what else has been altered?
B5150
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and like her mother she made a rehearsed statement that didn't even address or acknowledge the fact her father was and is a sexual predator and her mother enabled and enables him. Classic Clinton!
AE14
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Trust me, no bias here....this whole race is awful
With that said, I still tend to believe WL more than any MSM at this point as it has been shown how in the tank they are. The saddest part is that some anchors have donated to the Clinton Foundation and yet claim no affiliation etc... To be fair, if they want an honest debate, have Anderson Cooper (or Martha Raddatz) co moderate opposite Sean Hannity. Thats great TV
Misfit28
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And what is classic Trump? It seems like misogyny and sexual assault from all the stuff that is popping up.
Besides, your meme said Chelsea was NEVER asked questions about her Dad's sexual history. I think I just proved that false.
Misfit28
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Agreed. That would be pretty crazy!! LOL.
B5150
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Again. Another lack of acknowledgement. We differ in belief systems and that is respectable. What isn't is your inability to acknowledge any point that doesn't support yours. It's not polite and it really isnt worth my time discussing anything with you for that matter. A wall is more amiable.
Misfit28
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You just can't admit when a meme you posted is blatantly false. I can acknowledge when something that differs from my viewpoint is correct. You don't seem to be able to do that.
It's pathetic for Trump supporters to keep trying to blame someone else for their candidate's indiscretions.
He's a pig of a man. Bottom line.
Would Trump's "wall" be amiable enough for you?
B5150
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I suppose you're right. You research a meme I posted and found an interview. i see nothing in her statement that acknowledge what her father did and admit it was unacceptable for any man let alone the commander in chief.
I'm not blaming anyone. Donald is ALSO a predator. Don't throw self righteous stones is the point. Running for office is irrelevant to the principle of the matter of fact.
I'm not blaming anyone. Donald is ALSO a predator. Don't throw self righteous stones is the point. Running for office is irrelevant to the principle of the matter of fact.
Misfit28
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I can agree with you in a way there.
I just see Donald as needing to be held accountable for his actions. I also think Hillary should be held accountable for attacking women accusing Bill as well.
The difference here, IMO, is that Hillary is running for office, not Bill. Yes, she can be accountable for attacking the women, enabling might be a stretch. She can't be held accountable for the acts that Bill allegedly committed.
That's my two cents, for what it's worth
muscleupcrohn
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Some people will say that by prefacing the question with "Trump has called," the validity of the question was diminished and/or it gave her the opportunity (which she used) to not answer the question at all, but instead turn it into a criticism of Trump. Maybe it's semantics, but due to Trump's tendency to say stupid things, the mainstream media can basically preface anything with "Trump said," and use it as an opportunity to criticize Trump instead of actually addressing the question, even if it is a legitimate question (Trump does have one of those every so often).
B5150
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i whole heartedly admit he sucks as a communicator and his temperament is that of a moron (and in sorry if I insulted any morons here) but that doesn't mean that we don't see the deflection and the avoidance of answering to acknowledging and being held accountable to his accusations.
Is everyone in such shock to the point of stupid because of his arrogance that they can't see she has answered to none of his and our valid accusations. Where are the 30,000 deleted emails....etc? She has broken federal law while in her position and she has not been held accountable.
ax1
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I think an issue is, where do you draw the line? It just seems to be different woman to woman. I mean I dunno, I always went for a kiss and went slow, took my time.... but Ive seen alot of women (and alot not for this) just want a man take over and dominate them, especially at the club or at parties when I was younger.
This is a complicated issue I dont know what to think. Im just glad I have the women of my life and not have to worry about these things anymore.
ax1
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Its a big team of people and you cant expect them to get everything right all the time. Certainly, everyone has a bias and agenda. We have to be careful with something, but you cant just completely blow it off just after a false attribution. Everyone gets things wrong which just means we should at least maintain skepticism of everything including that show you obsess with Misfit, listening too daily and frequent their website morning to night infowars
ax1
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Hitlery and Obama support the mass groping of American citizens by Wallmart labor workers.
I mean really, this should be the forefront of the problem. I've had my testicles crushed twice and know women that have had their puzzies rubbed and breasts fondled by strangers yet people who vote for politicians who support these policies think they have the moral integrity to give Dump problems???
I mean really, this should be the forefront of the problem. I've had my testicles crushed twice and know women that have had their puzzies rubbed and breasts fondled by strangers yet people who vote for politicians who support these policies think they have the moral integrity to give Dump problems???
youngandfree
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US fires missiles at Yemen, Iran dispatches more warships to the area. US considers fighting with Russia in Syria.
Remember my earlier post I said we will be in a major fight or skirmish by January.
US fires missiles at Yemen, Iran dispatches more warships to the area. US considers fighting with Russia in Syria.
Remember my earlier post I said we will be in a major fight or skirmish by January.
Socalmk6gti
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I completely agree
Gutterpump
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So, a question for the conservatives here - when is Bush/Cheney going to be held accountable for leading us into that false war that killed thousands and cost us billions if not over a trillion dollars already. Why so focused on emails, surely your party has done worse? Why not hold them accountable? Don't talk about votes from Dems or this or that, it all falls on their shoulders. As I said, they were our leaders and those war mongering war criminals led us into it.
muscleupcrohn
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So as long as someone has gotten away with something in the past, anything less heinous in the future is acceptable?
Edit: We get it, conservatives are hypocrites. So are liberals.
B5150
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Remember they're not running for office...right?
I'll concede the Bill Clinton sexual predator issue as he is not running. Donald can be held accountable for his predator and deviant sexual prowess and if it causes him to lose so be it.
But I want to see our liberal media and liberal debate moderators directly ask HC; can you explain why you went against national security and got a private server? Do the rules for everyone else not apply to you? Why did you delete 30k emails after you were ordere to turn them over? Do you feel you don't need to comply with a federal order? Are you better than every other American? Let's also address Benghazi and the likes! And with the same fervor and zeal!
Let's keep it on a fair playing field and drill Hillary just like Donald. Her actions speak as much for her lack character as do his. In her case she's was a POS in the federal position of Secretary of State of our United States not a POS private citizen. Treat them both like POS they both are. Either way we're getting a POS commander in chief but let us get on fairly.
AE14
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This is exactly the point. Well stated.
She was a federal employee in one if the most powerful positions on the planet and violated federal law with complete disregard. Trump is a POS, but was a private citizen POS. That is a distinct difference. Neither is fit for president.
Socalmk6gti
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Great read. Put some effort into actually reading this.
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Aleksandar37
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I'm not a conservative, but it's not just about emails. You're acting like that is the only thing she has done. If you're going to have a conversation about war criminals, you need to get Bill and Hillary in line before Bush and Cheney.
Aleksandar37
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It's a propaganda piece written by Allen West about a republican. He's written many of them. Nothing new or great.
Socalmk6gti
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Reads like pure truth
Misfit28
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Truth in your eyes, obviously.
Nutty, overzealous Tea Baggers like him are exactly the reason I homeschool my son. There shouldn't be "God" in schools, or anything else connected with the state.
"Rampant abortions". Lol.
I really did read this, but it's just the same old recycled crap over and over again with new "threats" and fear mongering. Not to mention the manufactured and obviously false things sprinkled throughout.
Socalmk6gti
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God is in schools, work, and everything else. He is the way, the truth and the life.
Gutterpump
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My question was very specific (wasn't election based) and not one conservative answered it, they all just dodged it and even brought Bill Clinton into a very specific question about accountability within the GOP. Pretty sad fellas.
Aleksandar37
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If they all dodged it, how can you say that somebody brought Bill Clinton into it? Unless of course you want to actually respond to my response...
Aleksandar37
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P.S. when did you start working in the US?
Aleksandar37
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which god?
ax1
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There was alot of them to be honest...same thing about Liberals wanting Obama accountable for his humanitarian crimes. They just dont normally get their interviews on decaying mainstream media so much.
ax1
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He is going to be taking over Michelles place going around telling the childrenz how to eat and behave while wearing a pair of $750 shoes, I think it really does matter in this instance as a priority.
Remember too....this isnt just about Bill, its about that evil enabler too.
AE14
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Ok, this is where you lose me. Complain about the clintons...I am in. However, as an educator to say god in schools...I can't support you
justhere4comm
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I think this push pull between sides looks exhausting.
Does anyone think or rather realize either side in power could care any less?
This will be my only post here. The only labels I care for are the "Givers" and the "Takers".
Which one are you?
SMH.
I think this push pull between sides looks exhausting.
Does anyone think or rather realize either side in power could care any less?
This will be my only post here. The only labels I care for are the "Givers" and the "Takers".
Which one are you?
SMH.
Misfit28
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I'll glad that you have found solace in your religion.
However, for me, he isn't in anything.
Answer this: How does supporting Trump mesh with your Christian ideals, since you seem to be so devout.
Socalmk6gti
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One of the new Wikileaks -
6. Mrs. Clinton discussed hiding emails from Mr. Obama, then deleted them.
On March 4, 2015, Mr. Podesta wrote Mrs. Clinton’s lawyer Cheryl Mills about hiding Mrs. Clinton’s emails to Mr. Obama from congressional investigators. The day before, her team was subpoenaed to turn over all of Mrs. Clinton’s emails.
“Think we should hold emails to and from potus?” Mr. Podesta asked. “That’s the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but seems like they will.”
Three weeks later, Mrs. Clinton’s team BleachBit more than 33,000 emails.
6. Mrs. Clinton discussed hiding emails from Mr. Obama, then deleted them.
On March 4, 2015, Mr. Podesta wrote Mrs. Clinton’s lawyer Cheryl Mills about hiding Mrs. Clinton’s emails to Mr. Obama from congressional investigators. The day before, her team was subpoenaed to turn over all of Mrs. Clinton’s emails.
“Think we should hold emails to and from potus?” Mr. Podesta asked. “That’s the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but seems like they will.”
Three weeks later, Mrs. Clinton’s team BleachBit more than 33,000 emails.
Socalmk6gti
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This article sums up my Christian feelings about Trump as good or better than I could articulate.
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Misfit28
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LOL. Wow.
You do realize that Trump doesn't espouse the beliefs that he claims, he's just using religion to fool people, right?
You really think a despicable piece of scum like him really illustrates Christian values?
I especially enjoy the part where the hypocritical author used "Christian" in quotes when describing Obama's faith.
IMO, that's all religion is: Hypocrisy. It's so easy to twist your beliefs around to fit whomever you support. It's sad, really.
Misfit28
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It seems all the emails are from Podesta.
What happens when Wikileaks targets Trump's campaign? Will you believe those?
Aleksandar37
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Then at this point you're following the author of a blog, not god. You're following the interpretation of the bible by some stranger on the internet. If that's what works for you, fine, but be honest about it.
Misfit28
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Really?Why is Hillary not campaigning?
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Bill does look like death warmed over.
Seriously. Where and why is the wench hiding?
She's probably preparing for the debate again. These conspiracy theories are going fast beyond ridiculous at this point.
Also, why do Trump supporters believe a site called "Political Insider"? Isn't that one of the things they are against?