Donald Trump running for president

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Also, don't know if anyone here is a fan of death cab for cutie but the bands releasing 30 songs in 30 days, all anti trump it seems. Here's he first video, whether you like trump or not this video is very interesting

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Matthandyo said:
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Also, don't know if anyone here is a fan of death cab for cutie but the bands releasing 30 songs in 30 days, all anti trump it seems. Here's he first video, whether you like trump or not this video is very interesting

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Pretty good! I'm mostly of a metalhead, but I can dig stuff like that ;)

I have some eclectic musical tastes. Interested to see what other songs they write now!
 
ax1 said:
What was it about?
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I dont fully remember everything that was said at this point but it seemed like a Bernie supporter writing about things that would happen once Hillary became president. They talked about NAFTA, fracking, LGBT rights, gun control, among other things. Oh, and that she said she wants to kill Assange via drone strike.
 
Talk about fear/war-mongering, what the hell's up with Russia?

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They just ordered all official's relatives living abroad to return home to Russia.
 
jswain34 said:
I dont fully remember everything that was said at this point but it seemed like a Bernie supporter writing about things that would happen once Hillary became president. They talked about NAFTA, fracking, LGBT rights, gun control, among other things. Oh, and that she said she wants to kill Assange via drone strike.
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There's really no conclusive evidence on the drone strike thing. I don't trust WikiLeaks these days, too many questionable things going on with them. They lost credibility in my eyes.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
What have they put out that wasn't true?
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Namely the "email" from Sidney Blumenthal that Trump read on stage that has been totally debunked. It's origin was found to be Sputnik.

Makes it hard to trust anything else they release IMO. I'll look into things, of course, when they are released.
 
Misfit28 said:
Namely the "email" from Sidney Blumenthal that Trump read on stage that has been totally debunked. It's origin was found to be Sputnik.

Makes it hard to trust anything else they release IMO. I'll look into things, of course, when they are released.
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Good point. They're worth looking into the accusations since many are true, but the same should be said for Trump as well. A lot, including here, post items as gospel and don't think twice about if it's true or not. There is enough negative true stuff about both that I don't think there is a need to make anything up lol
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Good point. They're worth looking into the accusations since many are true, but the same should be said for Trump as well. A lot, including here, post items as gospel and don't think twice about if it's true or not. There is enough negative true stuff about both that I don't think there is a need to make anything up lol
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Absolutely! I don't totally discount anything about Clinton, she isn't perfect by a long shot. I just think Trump is honestly the worst person I've ever seen run for President. EVER.

I try to remain objective, but it really gets me riled up when people post blatantly fake crap, as you can probably see ABOVE, lol.
 
Gutterpump said:
Talk about fear/war-mongering, what the hell's up with Russia?

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They just ordered all official's relatives living abroad to return home to Russia.
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It's not fear mongering if they are going to start something. They basically flipped the bird to the US a couple weeks ago regarding Syria. Iran keeps screwing with our naval ships. Iran wants to destroy Israel. I've said for years the next major war we will be involved in will be before or near inauguration day.
 
youngandfree said:
It's not fear mongering if they are going to start something. They basically flipped the bird to the US a couple weeks ago regarding Syria. Iran keeps screwing with our naval ships. Iran wants to destroy Israel. I've said for years the next major war we will be involved in will be before or near inauguration day.
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Putin is out of his mind, and he's about to be re-elected again (if you can call it an election). The guy is a power-hungry dictator. These are definitely scary times.
 
Gutterpump said:
Putin is out of his mind, and he's about to be re-elected again (if you can call it an election). The guy is a power-hungry dictator. These are definitely scary times.
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He wants to rebuild the Soviet Union and has taken a few steps to get started. He may be crazy, but it would be a mistake to discount or marginalize him.
 
It's looking less and less likely that the rape of a 13 year old story about Trump is true. Very, very sketchy. There are plenty of other accusations that have merit. That one just doesn't withstand scrutiny, IMO.
 
Bush (and Cheney) were responsible for many many more American deaths, a needless and baseless war, which perpetuated much more terrorism and cost us money which would've been FAR better spent on our infrastructure. Was he impeached or jailed for this??

Republicans are the biggest hippocrits.
 
Gutterpump said:
Bush (and Cheney) were responsible for many many more American deaths, a needless and baseless war, which perpetuated much more terrorism and cost us money which would've been FAR better spent on our infrastructure. Was he impeached or jailed for this??

Republicans are the biggest hippocrits.
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Obama and dems wasted a TRILLION DOLLARS on the stimulus bill for "shovel ready" infrastructure jobs. What did they spend that money on?
 
How many Americans are dead now because of Bush and Cheney? Republicans need to get their fvked up heads out of their own asses. GTFO out of here with this witch hunt Killary $h!t. Bunch of sad clowns.
 
Gutterpump said:
13 investigations that cost us 14 million and nets nothing, seems like a waste, no?

Did Dems go on witch hunts with Bush and Reagan like this?
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Are you seriously asking if there were witch hunts on Bush?!?! They're still blaming him for everything. And that isn't what I asked. Are you saying that we shouldn't investigate attacks that results in American deaths? Also, your numbers are incorrect all over that little facebook-worthy graphic.
 
Gutterpump said:
Bush (and Cheney) were responsible for many many more American deaths, a needless and baseless war, which perpetuated much more terrorism and cost us money which would've been FAR better spent on our infrastructure. Was he impeached or jailed for this??

Republicans are the biggest hippocrits.
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That war which Obama was supposed to end and bring troops back from?! How are you that invested in one side of a political system that you can't even participate in?
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Are you seriously asking if there were witch hunts on Bush?!?! They're still blaming him for everything. And that isn't what I asked. Are you saying that we shouldn't investigate attacks that results in American deaths? Also, your numbers are incorrect all over that little facebook-worthy graphic.
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Huh? No I didn't say that. But how many ****ing investigations / charges / etc have we paid for against Bush? Has Bush appeared in court over Iraq? Cheney should flat out be hung.

This whole thing with HIllary PALES in comparison.
 
4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq because of Bush/Cheney. 0 charges against them.

4 Americans died in Benghazi, there were 13 investigations and none found Hillary guilty.

Numbers don't lie.
 
Gutterpump said:
4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq because of Bush/Cheney. 0 charges against them.

4 Americans died in Benghazi, there were 13 investigations and none found Hillary guilty.

Numbers don't lie.
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They died in the Iraq war that Clinton and Obama voted to approve. Unlike obama and Clinton's newest armed conflicts they started and participated in where they refused to get Congressional approval for.

You don't think Clinton should be investigated for illegally sending weapons to Lybian rebels to overthrow the President? This arms dealer had his approval rescinded and then was charged with it. The feds just dropped the charges because the defense was going to get details of it during the discovery portion of the trial. Why do you think Chris Stevens was in Benghazi to begin with? Under terms that required his presence to be kept quiet and him not be publicly acknowledged.
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The Iraq war started under Bush/Cheney and the US has been creating/funding/arming terrorists for ages. The US in general should be charged with war crimes, and Cheney (that weasel bastard) should be hung from the highest mountain.
 
Gutterpump said:
The Iraq war started under Bush/Cheney and the US has been creating/funding/arming terrorists for ages. The US in general should be charged with war crimes, and Cheney (that weasel bastard) should be hung from the highest mountain.
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As should Bill and Hillary for Bosnia alone.
 
Gutterpump said:
Huh? No I didn't say that. But how many ****ing investigations / charges / etc have we paid for against Bush? Has Bush appeared in court over Iraq? Cheney should flat out be hung.

This whole thing with HIllary PALES in comparison.
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What I'm seeing from your graphic is that no investigations were performed in the past, which is not correct. But going off of what you posted, I see mistakes made in the past by not investigating and then they were corrected in regards to subsequent events, so I repeat my question because you don't seem to be in favor of this direction.
 
Misfit28 said:
There's really no conclusive evidence on the drone strike thing. I don't trust WikiLeaks these days, too many questionable things going on with them. They lost credibility in my eyes.
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The truth is even the government can open cracks within the system to leak out targeted misinformation or to setup individuals within the system.

This stuff should always be looked at (and I support wikileaks) and certainly could be legitimate but we truly need to be careful.
 
Misfit28 said:
Absolutely! I don't totally discount anything about Clinton, she isn't perfect by a long shot. I just think Trump is honestly the worst person I've ever seen run for President. EVER.

I try to remain objective, but it really gets me riled up when people post blatantly fake crap, as you can probably see ABOVE, lol.
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I still dont understand how someone who has already murdered millions of people, women, children and babies and is a well established global genocidalist along with all the terrible policies equates to being better than Dump. That make no logical sense whatsoever, it is impossible.
 
youngandfree said:
It's not fear mongering if they are going to start something. They basically flipped the bird to the US a couple weeks ago regarding Syria. Iran keeps screwing with our naval ships. Iran wants to destroy Israel. I've said for years the next major war we will be involved in will be before or near inauguration day.
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The EU and US along with George Soros overthrowing the elected officials of Ukraine is what started it and caused that civil war. Also Russia has its own issues with terrorism as well and funding, training and creating Al-queda and Isis over the last few decades doesnt help. Im not a fan of Russia but the EU, Obama, Bush along with alot of the cronies in government are far worse than Putin. Im just calling it as I see it.

Lets make America great again, lets vote for independents, libertarians and other non-democrat/republican candidates from the bottom up this November!
 
ax1 said:
Lets make America great again, lets vote for independents, libertarians and other non-democrat/republican candidates from the bottom up this November!
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Bingo.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
That war which Obama was supposed to end and bring troops back from?! How are you that invested in one side of a political system that you can't even participate in?
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HA!!! Obama is the first president to ever officially end a war AFTER his leaves office, and that was years ago!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Gutterpump said:
4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq because of Bush/Cheney. 0 charges against them.

4 Americans died in Benghazi, there were 13 investigations and none found Hillary guilty.

Numbers don't lie.
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The HUGE difference with that though is Bush/Cheney seeked the only branch of government that can approve an act of war.

Lybia was a war that bypassed congresses and got its war approvals from illegal "executive kinetic actions" and illegally seeked an unelected overseas organization (NATO) (treason Ill add.) Congress with given the middle finger by the secretary of defense and was told they are just ceremonial purposes when questioned.

That being said Im not happy with any of this.
 
Gutterpump said:
4,486 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq because of Bush/Cheney. 0 charges against them.

4 Americans died in Benghazi, there were 13 investigations and none found Hillary guilty.

Numbers don't lie.
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And Hitlery was directly involved with voting and supporting both and somehow you think this mass murdering genocidalist is worthy of a vote over Dump?????????????????????????????????????????
 
Misfit28 said:
Maybe not the exact same charts, but Dump is a liar as usual.

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First issue with this ****ty rebuttle. Regarding printing money. Trump is referring to Quantitative Easing where the administration had the Fed Reserve "digitize" TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS that got pumped into the stock market, that resulted in the artificially high market we have.

Second, we have had record high number of people on food stamps for years now. The reason the numbers are trending back down is states have started tightening up their food stamp programs so they are no longer open ended no holds barred handouts. People are being forced to come off.
 
ax1 said:
The HUGE difference with that though is Bush/Cheney seeked the only branch of government that can approve an act of war.

Lybia was a war that bypassed congresses and got its war approvals from illegal "executive kinetic actions" and illegally seeked an unelected overseas organization (NATO) (treason Ill add.) Congress with given the middle finger by the secretary of defense and was told they are just ceremonial purposes when questioned.

That being said Im not happy with any of this.
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Cheney needs to be euthanized and there should be some large repercussions over Iraq by the global community., against the US and Britain.
 
Gutterpump said:
Cheney needs to be euthanized and there should be some large repercussions over Iraq by the global community., against the US and Britain.
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How do you euthanize a droid? He probably has hundreds of backups in storage in underground bunkers.

He is certainly up there with the worst in global history and in the forefront of staging 9-11....I wouldnt play golf with him thats for sure.
 
ax1 said:
How do you euthanize a droid? He probably has hundreds of backups in storage in underground bunkers.

He is certainly up there with the worst in global history and in the forefront of staging 9-11....I wouldnt play golf with him thats for sure.
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I'd bet he has clones
 
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