Donald Trump running for president

Matthandyo said:
Wouldn't do business or even any work for him due to the chance of not getting paid for my work.
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I'm not saying I disagree with you about that; I'm saying that if you're talking in a purely selfish (from his perspective) sense, he is a good (successful) businessman, as he is actually quite good at making money. Granted, it is often at the expense of others, but that meme you posted makes it seem as if you were trying to say that he's a "failure" at business, not that he's someone you wouldn't want to do business with. In some senses (selfish), he is a "winner" as a businessman, but he's definitely not to a lot of other people. Maybe I just interpreted it wrong though, it's hard to determine intent on the internet sometimes.
 
noun, plural Nazis.
3.
(often lowercase) Sometimes Offensive. a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to regulate a specified activity, practice, etc.:
a jazz nazi who disdains other forms of music; health nazis trying to ban junk food.


So a regulated regime formed under Hillary basically fits this definition.
 
Socalmk6gti said:
noun, plural Nazis.
3.
(often lowercase) Sometimes Offensive. a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to regulate a specified activity, practice, etc.:
a jazz nazi who disdains other forms of music; health nazis trying to ban junk food.


So a regulated regime formed under Hillary basically fits this definition.
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That sounds like an Urban Dictionary definition, haha. I understand why it's often used in that way, but when you're talking politics, throwing around the term Nazi usually implies you're talking about the literal definition of the term.
 
Misfit28 said:
What's so bad about that?

Helping people, how dare she!
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She is a global terrorist. People knock on Trump for screwing a few people over in business but when terrorists give a helping hand it's ok.
 
ax1 said:
She wants to grow on the foundation of Obama's Hitler youth.
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And today Obama basically signed over the Internet to the likes of Cuba and China. He's up to something before he leaves office, just not sure what his grand scheme is.

Give away the Internet....

Hillary creates "civilian army"

Cheats Hillary into office

Gains seat as Supreme Court justice....

............(removing tin foil hat)

But this all is happening before our very eyes
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I'm not saying I disagree with you about that; I'm saying that if you're talking in a purely selfish (from his perspective) sense, he is a good (successful) businessman, as he is actually quite good at making money. Granted, it is often at the expense of others, but that meme you posted makes it seem as if you were trying to say that he's a "failure" at business, not that he's someone you wouldn't want to do business with. In some senses (selfish), he is a "winner" as a businessman, but he's definitely not to a lot of other people. Maybe I just interpreted it wrong though, it's hard to determine intent on the internet sometimes.
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The sad truth is if he had simply invested his "small" loan, he would be worth even more.

The fact that he had over 900 million in losses kinda speaks to that fact. We really have no idea how much he is worth, since still won't release his tax returns.
 
Misfit28 said:
The sad truth is if he had simply invested his "small" loan, he would be worth even more.

The fact that he had over 900 million in losses kinda speaks to that fact. We really have no idea how much he is worth, since still won't release his tax returns.
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Forbes estimated that he's worth $3.7 billion (although he claims he's worth $10 billion).
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How much was his "small loan?" I keep hearing it was $1 million, is that true? Are you telling me that you can easily turn $1 million into >$3 billion just by investing it? That's 3,000 times the original amount. I'll find $1 million if you can guarantee me that you can turn it into even 1/10th of the $3 billion + Trump is worth (so that'd be $300 million).
 
$1M then is vastly different than $1M now. It's not that crazy considering how much the market has grown in several decades.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Forbes estimated that he's worth $3.7 billion (although he claims he's worth $10 billion).
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How much was his "small loan?" I keep hearing it was $1 million, is that true? Are you telling me that you can easily turn $1 million into >$3 billion just by investing it? That's 3,000 times the original amount. I'll find $1 million if you can guarantee me that you can turn it into even 1/10th of the $3 billion + Trump is worth (so that'd be $300 million).
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Alot of people who earn, inherit or win millions go beyond broke (sports athletes, lottery, along with many other things). After all these years Dump is on top.

When you play with billions its possible to lose big chunks of money. Really, if Dump lost a billion it looks alot to regular people but really its not a big deal or that much money.

Im just puzzled how people question his business success when he is clearly the winner and far far beyond most people that criticize him.
 
Rodja said:
$1M then is vastly different than $1M now. It's not that crazy considering how much the market has grown in several decades.
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Was it a $1 million loan? I hear that number very frequently, but I'm not sure if it's accurate. Assuming it is, and assuming he took the loan immediately upon graduating from college (1968), after adjusting for inflation, the $1 million is worth just under $7 million today, although I really have no idea when he got that loan, but I assume it's no earlier than 1968, so the $7 million would be the maximum of what it'd be worth today. My comments still remain; you can turn $7 million into $3 billion just by investing it? That's still 428 times the initial investment; not too shabby if you ask me.

ax1 said:
Alot of people who earn or win millions go beyond broke (sports athletes, lottery, along with many other things). After all these years Dump is on top.

When you play with billions its possible to lose big chunks of money. Really, if Dump lost a billion it looks alot to regular people but really its not a big deal or that much money.

Im just puzzled how people question his business success when he is clearly the winner and far far beyond most people that criticize him.
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This. Plenty of people acquire far more than $1 million at one time (athletes, inheritance, lottery, etc), and not only do the vast majority of them never become billionaires, but a good amount of them end up going broke.
 
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So Hilary used the same tax deductions on showed a $700,000 loss on her last year's taxes. And ironically, the NYT got a $3+ Million dollar refund after reporting profits of over $20M.

And here's a good article from 2014, explaining how the Clinton's are avoiding the estate tax that both have campaigned for and supported to make sure the familis of the wealthy pay their fair sure when they inherit a large estate
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youngandfree said:
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So Hilary used the same tax deductions on showed a $700,000 loss on her last year's taxes. And ironically, the NYT got a $3+ Million dollar refund after reporting profits of over $20M.

And here's a good article from 2014, explaining how the Clinton's are avoiding the estate tax that both have campaigned for and supported to make sure the familis of the wealthy pay their fair sure when they inherit a large estate
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But the Clintons actually paid taxes AND released their returns. Dump has done neither.

In fact, the most recent year we can even tell he paid taxes was 1977........
 
Matthandyo said:
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But racism doesn't exit
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Notice in his apology, he says "I have many black friends, Hispanic friends and no, this is something that I should not have said. I certainly apologize to anybody that I might have hurt their feelings... that's not the way I feel."

LOL, but Obama caused more racism. No, it's just coming out more from being encouraged by Trump and pals.
 
I think Donald really needs to delete his Twitter account, LOL. Just check out the tweets in this article.

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And from this article:

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"If Trump were truly smart - and wanted to lead by example - he would have disclosed his tax returns, showed the loopholes he used, and vowed to close them."
 
Trump has payed hundreds of millions in taxes, that aren't listed as "income tax". Remember Warren Buffet pays less "income tax" than his secretary. BUT to infer that his secretary pays more total taxes than Buffet is absurd and willfully ignorant.

Someone dug up a CNN article from 1997 fat shaming Machado and talking how fat she has gotten.
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Misfit28 said:
But the Clintons actually paid taxes AND released their returns. Dump has done neither.

In fact, the most recent year we can even tell he paid taxes was 1977........
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It's beyond absurd to claim Trump hasn't payed any kind of taxes since 1977. Again, very wealthy business people pay tons of taxes that aren't listed under the line item of "income tax".
 
Misfit28 said:
Federal taxes is the topic at hand.
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Maybe you don't understand there are multiple types of "federal taxes", I don't know. But they are using the language of "federal taxes" instead of the actual term "income tax". Capital Gains tax is a federal tax. Tax on interest earned on investments is a federal tax. As well, if you've never filled out tax forms as a business, you may not know the myriad of things that are on those forms that the majority of the population never sees on their 1040EZ.
 
youngandfree said:
Maybe you don't understand there are multiple types of "federal taxes", I don't know. But they are using the language of "federal taxes" instead of the actual term "income tax". Capital Gains tax is a federal tax. Tax on interest earned on investments is a federal tax. As well, if you've never filled out tax forms as a business, you may not know the myriad of things that are on those forms that the majority of the population never sees on their 1040EZ.
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I use a 1040, but you are correct that I don't own a business.
 
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youngandfree said:
Trump has payed hundreds of millions in taxes, that aren't listed as "income tax". Remember Warren Buffet pays less "income tax" than his secretary. BUT to infer that his secretary pays more total taxes than Buffet is absurd and willfully ignorant.

Someone dug up a CNN article from 1997 fat shaming Machado and talking how fat she has gotten.
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I didn't see "Miss Piggy" in that article, though. I agree that they still fat shamed her, but certainly not to the degree that Trump did.
 
Misfit28 said:
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"If Trump were truly smart - and wanted to lead by example - he would have disclosed his tax returns, showed the loopholes he used, and vowed to close them."
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That's what I've been thinking, but if he loses the election, then he sort of screws himself; he obviously doesn't care about the people enough to lose a bunch of money and not be President. I'm not sure if he'd even close the loopholes if he were elected though, although that's one thing he could probably actually be good at.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
That's what I've been thinking, but if he loses the election, then he sort of screws himself; he obviously doesn't care about the people enough to lose a bunch of money and not be President. I'm not sure if he'd even close the loopholes if he were elected though, although that's one thing he could probably actually be good at.
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Those loopholes aren't going anywhere. The people supporting him and Hillary are not going broke paying taxes either.
 
Can't wait for this very next wikileaks press conference about that dog shyt scum Hitlery....rumor is it's going to be big!

9-10 am England time.

"This is going to devastate the Clintons."

Let's see don't let me down wiki.

Also, I heard Mr. Clinton has a son that looks like him coming out saying he wants his daddy to acknowledge him.
 
ax1 said:
Can't wait for this very next wikileaks press conference about that dog shyt scum Hitlery....rumor is it's going to be big!

9-10 am England time.

"This is going to devastate the Clintons."

Let's see don't let me down wiki.

Also, I heard Mr. Clinton has a son that looks like him coming out saying he wants his daddy to acknowledge him.
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Not to mention this whole thing about Hillary Clinton wanting to know how to kill Assange. "Small drone strike?"
 
Never mind it looks like the event happened if I saw correct. Been on the out all day will catch up.
 
Ok so reading on the Subway here I see this isn't about clinton but about war, Google, the election etc....and will be released over the next 10 weeks.

Why a press conferance for that?

Disappointed myself but will still keep an eye out on this "schedule."
 
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