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Donald Trump running for president

youngandfree said:
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There are many factors at the federal level that dictate or influence what a state can or can't do in regards to making their own voter registration requirements. And many agenda driven people can influence those decisions.

Which is why places like San Francisco and other sanctuary cities are allowing illegals to get driver's licenses which then leads to them getting registered to vote under the Motor Voter Law. Then the state says, "we aren't allowed to check or verify a person's citizenship" and said illegals are now on the voter rolls. The above article I posted about the green card murderer, the Secretary of State said she has no idea how many registered voters they have on the rolls that aren't legally allowed to vote. And they don't care about it, or they would work to make the verification of citizenship a requirement to vote, which is precribed in that pesky Constitution.

That what it has to do with illegals getting in the voter rolls.
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I'm sure there are plenty of legal immigrants who want to vote against Trump :)
 
We don’t have a provision in state law that allows us either county elections officials or the Secretary of State's office to verify someone’s citizenship," explained Secretary of State Kim Wyman. "So, we’re in this place where we want to make sure we’re maintaining people’s confidence in the elections and the integrity of the process, but also that we’re giving this individual, like we would any voter, his due process. We’re moving forward, and that investigation is really coming out of the investigation from the shootings."
The penalty for voting as a non U.S. citizen could result in five years of prison time or a $10,000, according to Secretary of State's Office.
"The penalties are very serious. That’s why we want to make sure we’re very measured, and this is why we want to make sure we’re very calm and purposeful in how we move forward," Wyman continued. "The stakes are very high on both sides. You want to keep the confidence level high, but you also want to protect the voting rights of everyone."
Wyman says while it's impossible to determine an exact number, she does not believe this case points to a larger issue.
"Our hands are kind of tied, but make no mistake, we want to make sure that everybody has confidence that people casting ballots are eligible. This is certainly going to be a topic at next legislation."

She's saying, there's no way we can verify the people registered are even allowed to be. But we need to give the ones that aren't allowed to be registered due process like the legal citizens. But we want to tell people we are confident only citizens are coting, even though theresa absolutely no way they can prove that claim, and being in a liberal state like Washington, their legislature isn't chmoping at the bit to make the provision for election officials to be allowed to check for citizenship.
 
Misfit28 said:
It's not as widespread as you think, though.
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I think the more significant issue are the propriety privately owned easily hack-able electronic voting machines. There are issues with transparency.

Personally, I would add in laws where you have to show valid photo ID to vote and have that ID scanned too to reduce any fraud.
 
ax1 said:
I think the more significant issue are the propriety privately owned easily hack-able electronic voting machines. There are issues with transparency.

Personally, I would add in laws where you have to show valid photo ID to vote and have that ID scanned too to reduce any fraud.
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But the liberals say that that's racist and targeting minorities, lol.
 
youngandfree said:
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So why did this non citizen vote in 3 elections then?
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in the article you referenced:

While voters must attest to citizenship upon registering online or registering to vote at the Department of Licensing Office, Washington state doesn't require proof of citizenship. Therefore elections officials say the state's elections system operates, more or less, under an honor system.
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muscleupcrohn said:
Am I the only one who finds it funny that anything involving politics involves the "honor" system?
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Nope I'm with you lol I find it funny every time say "well they can be lying" I usually get "no they wouldn't" or "but what if they do follow through"(when they usually only do if it benefits their agenda so its not surprising at times) yet most these people won't even trust there next door neighbor lol.
 
ax1 said:
I think the more significant issue are the propriety privately owned easily hack-able electronic voting machines. There are issues with transparency.

Personally, I would add in laws where you have to show valid photo ID to vote and have that ID scanned too to reduce any fraud.
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These machines are a farce, I agree with this whole post
 
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Someone found thousands of ballots in a warehouse marked for every democrat on the Ohio ballot. Problem is early voting doesn't start for a couple weeks there.

Voter fraud "might not be as widespread as I think", but enough to swing an important state is still too much.
 
youngandfree said:
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Someone found thousands of ballots in a warehouse marked for every democrat on the Ohio ballot. Problem is early voting doesn't start for a couple weeks there.

Voter fraud "might not be as widespread as I think", but enough to swing an important state is still too much.
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Who polices this stuff and how does it even happen? It's not like we're in the dark ages. This kind of stuff should be easily preventable.
 
youngandfree said:
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Someone found thousands of ballots in a warehouse marked for every democrat on the Ohio ballot. Problem is early voting doesn't start for a couple weeks there.

Voter fraud "might not be as widespread as I think", but enough to swing an important state is still too much.
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There are so many actual issues that it makes zero sense to write (and post) these fake articles. It's crying wolf and helps the candidates write off everything as conspiracy issues.
 
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How about this article from my home state? Numerous cases of voter fraud at the state level, and being handled by state Board of elections, that are agenda driven.
 
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Remember the Minnesota Senate race that had 6 months of recounts until they finally had enough democrat votes to overturn the numbers on election day? That one returned control of the Senate to the dems, so there's no way they were giving up until they found enough votes.
 
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Have I posted this one yet? Another state level person working on a democrat campaign illegally registering people not allowed to vote. Because they are dead.
 
youngandfree said:
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How about this article from my home state? Numerous cases of voter fraud at the state level, and being handled by state Board of elections, that are agenda driven.
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I got as far as this sentence..."Just this week, in fact, stories have come to light about the Cascades Mall shooter (an apparent Hillary Clinton fan) having voted three times as a non-citizen". Actually this is a complete lie since he has been found to be a naturalized citizen. Moving on...
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I got as far as this sentence..."Just this week, in fact, stories have come to light about the Cascades Mall shooter (an apparent Hillary Clinton fan) having voted three times as a non-citizen". Actually this is a complete lie since he has been found to be a naturalized citizen. Moving on...
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It wasn't a complete lie when Federal officials were the ones claim g he wasn't a citizen.

Considering it was recently updated to declare him a naturalized citizen, every news outlet initially ran the story because federal officials confirmed he wasn't a citizen. And now they are correcting it. Don't act like some kook was the one that put it out there that he wasn't a citizen. It's not lie Howard Dean saying Trump snorts coke. Federal officials initially said he wasn't a citizen, and upon further investigation changed the story.
 
youngandfree said:
It wasn't a complete lie when Federal officials were the ones claim g he wasn't a citizen.

Considering it was recently updated to declare him a naturalized citizen, every news outlet initially ran the story because federal officials confirmed he wasn't a citizen. And now they are correcting it. Don't act like some kook was the one that put it out there that he wasn't a citizen. It's not lie Howard Dean saying Trump snorts coke. Federal officials initially said he wasn't a citizen, and upon further investigation changed the story.
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If it wasn't true, then it's a lie. I don't care who said it. If you want to keep defending a "journalist" who can't be bothered to correct their story like any major source would, that's your choice, but I'm not going to trust them.
 
Yeah, and now we have the double standard of Trump attacking Hillary over Bill's cheating. He has been married three times and cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples.
 
Misfit28 said:
Yeah, and now we have the double standard of Trump attacking Hillary over Bill's cheating. He has been married three times and cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples.
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What I hear is Bill's allegations are far far worse than cheating, he even has some out of court sexual misconduct and rape settlements. I cant confirm this but being that he and his wife have murdered hundreds of thousands perhaps over a million women and children across the globe, their morals are so low it wouldnt surprise me.
 
Gutterpump said:
How many illegals have admitted they're illegals? I don't even see how stats exist on this
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Being an illegal is a positive commodity I guess. I mean, they openly give illegals better health care than our vets sooo......wut they scared of? lol
 
ax1 said:
What I hear is Bill's allegations are far far worse than cheating, he even has some out of court sexual misconduct and rape settlements. I cant confirm this but being that he and his wife have murdered hundreds of thousands perhaps over a million women and children across the globe, their morals are so low it wouldnt surprise me.
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My point is that he is attacking her over his indiscretions. He is far from innocent.

The only reason this line of attack is acceptable is because he is a man.
 
Misfit28 said:
My point is that he is attacking her over his indiscretions. He is far from innocent.

The only reason this line of attack is acceptable is because he is a man.
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I didn't know his background with his relationships.

Yeah I see, he is another hyposhyt then.

This is going to be the battle of the hyposhyts.
 
Misfit28 said:
My point is that he is attacking her over his indiscretions. He is far from innocent.

The only reason this line of attack is acceptable is because he is a man.
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I wouldn't say either is acceptable but is this really that much different from Hillary attacking other women over Bill's cheating?
 
Matthandyo said:
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But racism doesn't exit
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This drives me nuts. Who the **** is actually saying racism doesn't exist?! Every freaking day I see articles and posts alleging that white people are claiming racism doesn't exist. Racism exists and will always exists. Any time a difference exists between two groups of people, prejudice will exist based on that difference.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I wouldn't say either is acceptable but is this really that much different from Hillary attacking other women over Bill's cheating?
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Good point.

The difference is that he is STILL attacking women right now, claiming they have sex tapes (without producing proof), etc.

And calling a Miss Universe winner fat, while he is fat.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I wouldn't say either is acceptable but is this really that much different from Hillary attacking other women over Bill's cheating?
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You mean Hilary attacking the women that were victims of Bill's and tried to ruin their lives. Those are outside of the women that had consensual affairs with Bill.
 
youngandfree said:
You mean Hilary attacking the women that were victims of Bill's and tried to ruin their lives. Those are outside of the women that had consensual affairs with Bill.
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And I suppose attempting to destroy a Miss Universe pageant's credibility doesn't count? Alleging sex tapes and such with proof that we know of.

Not to mention all of Trump's "business" victims. Not sexual, but still victims of his shady business practices.
 
Misfit28 said:
Good point.

The difference is that he is STILL attacking women right now, claiming they have sex tapes (without producing proof), etc.

And calling a Miss Universe winner fat, while he is fat.
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He makes fun of both men and women though...although he doesnt carry himself like I would, I cant consider his a sexist, he is rather just an all around bunghole.
 
Matthandyo said:
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He still has made a ton of money; a lot more than he owes even, so I don't think it's really fair to say that he's a bad businessman, at least in the sense of making money, not in the sense of you'd want to do business with him. There are so many legitimate things that you can criticize Trump for, but saying that he's bad at business (not a "winner") doesn't make much sense to me, as business (making money) seems to be just about the only thing, besides self-promotion, he is actually good at.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
He still has made a ton of money; a lot more than he owes even, so I don't think it's really fair to say that he's a bad businessman, at least in the sense of making money, not in the sense of you'd want to do business with him. There are so many legitimate things that you can criticize Trump for, but saying that he's bad at business (not a "winner") doesn't make much sense to me, as business (making money) seems to be just about the only thing, besides self-promotion, he is actually good at.
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Wouldn't do business or even any work for him due to the chance of not getting paid for my work.
 
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