Donald Trump running for president

To top off the costume, I've even got a sick pair of America compression socks since I'm a lifter and all along with a pair of crossfit shoes that give respect to the American armed forces (air, land and sea). Has their logos and I believe part of the proceeds goes to vets. I'm going to have to post pics once everything arrives in a few days. It's pretty legit
 
Gutterpump said:
On a less serious topic, what are y'all doing for July 4th?

I'm hitting up a pool party / house warming party with a group of people who all try to outdo each other with patriotic outfits.

As the resident Canadian, I had to make sure I have them all beat, just to shame them.

I've built a hybrid costume that's a combination of Rocky Balboa, Captain America, and Richard Nixon

Can't get more 'Murrica than that!
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Spending all my quality time in the Donald Trump thread of course as my wife talks to me and I nod uh huh uh huh.
 
ax1 said:
It was also under his administration where they financed muhajadeem (who later became al-queda) and Bin laden, although muhajadeem was created by the CIA in the late 70's a few years earlier.

Also there is Iran Contra with all that weapon smuggling (history keeps repeating itself with Obama now), cocaine trafficing, assassination of a DEA agent, and more.....There was a hidden (aka lost to gain 3 more GOP votes) chapter that showed private WH fundraising, and most importantly showed how the Reagan administration ran a covert propaganda system with the CIA and disinformation specialists out of the NSC to lie and thwart public opinion and crush political opposition and alot more too much to post here.

He also attacked civil liberties and expanded illegal eavesdropping on Americans, probably the worst up until that time, weakening the freedom of information act decreasing government transparency, trumping states rights with "Federal pre-emption,"

I can keep going on but Reagan represents BIG government, unlike as he states "government is the problem" he is not a small government president.

Ill give him this, he was a puppet after the Bush's tried to assassinate him, and a puppet by force unlike the volunteer Obama is but responsibility still falls on his hands. He did work to eliminate the fairness doctrine although of course that was to try to pull for internal advantage but good riddance. Also, his era is certainly not as bad as the Bush era and Obama era, I think people see things so bad currently and the direction we are heading that they are desensitized into thinking the lesser of evils is absolute greatness.
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Obama created Isis, Bush essentially created al qeada(they were around but really weren't anything before bush), Clinton greatly expanded the Taliban and let bin Laden live when he could have killed him a couple of times, Nixon essentially started the Taliban(again they were around but really wasn't a terrorist group atm).

Thats just shyt in the middle East I can go on on. They all have done nasty shyt, and most every president, including and everyone after, fdr has taken away some of liberties and have supported big government.

I'm just picking the best out of that group. Like I said Reagan wasn't perfect by any means but he was IMO, the best weve had in a long time.
 

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Obama created Isis, Bush essentially created al qeada(they were around but really weren't anything before bush), Clinton greatly expanded the Taliban and let bin Laden live when he could have killed him a couple of times, Nixon essentially started the Taliban(again they were around but really wasn't a terrorist group atm).

Thats just shyt in the middle East I can go on on. They all have done nasty shyt, and most every president, including and everyone after, fdr has taken away some of liberties and have supported big government.

I'm just picking the best out of that group. Like I said Reagan wasn't perfect by any means but he was IMO, the best weve had in a long time.
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Yup, wow you know alot. I hate FDR he a corrupt banker elitest criminal peace of shyt. Not only did he massively expand government but he set the stage to get Japan to attack pearl harbor and the stand down order was caused so his banking buddies can profit lots of cash by thwarting and manipulating public support and suck us into that war.

I can like sorta agree with you on Reagon, but my thinking is backwards......Reagan is the least worst we have had in a long time, lol
 
ax1 said:
Yup, wow you know alot. I hate FDR he a corrupt banker elitest criminal peace of shyt. Not only did he massively expand government but he set the stage to get Japan to attack pearl harbor and the stand down order was caused so his banking buddies can profit lots of cash by thwarting and manipulating public support and suck us into that war.

I can like sorta agree with you on Reagon, but my thinking is backwards......Reagan is the least worst we have had in a long time, lol
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Ya I'm kinda a history nut, especially presidental history.

I hate FDR too.

Now I'm may disagree with your stance on Reagan, but I totally see where you coming from; and can respect that.
 
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My friend sent me this, buying one to wear this July 4th
 
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Why talk about politics when we can get back on the topic of slingshots.

This is far more badass than any gun. Needs to be shark mounted
 
ax1 said:
I would totally dismantle it and just set up a whole new system. Once a system is compromised best to abolish it. I mean congrats, these countries didnt war against each other but neither has the USA gone to war with canada and mexico. You dont need a unelected big bank bureaucratic all encompassing government to enforce it.

The problem is with government itself. Once established the limits to the powers governments seeks to achieve are unlimited. This is government by nature corrupt. Reasoning democracy and separation of(elected) powers provide society with better protection in regards to sovereignty and liberty.

We have seen this with our own very eyes, what was t be about peace and economy has turned to methods of control, heavy regulation and domination by foreign powers. Democracy is oblivion.

Countries can sign agreements for the travel, and as far as war is concerned, just dont have a shytfit with another country and mind your own business. No EU is going to prevent a war that can be established by means of not being an azzhole. Have free markets and trading and set the opportunities for people to prosper rather than the crony capitalism the EU set up regulations to wipe out competition of the middleclass and the biggest of the big prosper the most, the people that prop up the EU.
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The USA hasn't been to war with either of those nations in hundreds of years, moreover, neither Canada or Mexico would have the means of waging a war against the US. Europe has had two MAJOR wars in less than a century and a series of smaller conflicts in the same time period which stemmed from WW1 and WW2 (Greco Turkish war, Hungary-Romania war, Cod wars etc.). Europe has like 50+ countries, all with their own intentions and a need to balance power and resource struggle. You're seriously saying that because the US hasn't fought with it's two neighbours, that no countries in Europe need some form of unification to prevent a war breaking out between 50 countries in close proximity? Cmon

Your arguments are full of red herrings and conspiracy, it makes me wonder if you trust ANYTHING to do with government. I bet if they admitted everything you accused them of, you would think that a conspiracy as well.

Countries are all about control, and you would be a fool to think that would ever change. Everything is a power struggle and it will always be. You would make a new system which would then become a power struggle, or it would fail miserably because no one would have any power and so no-one would agree to your terms. Ever played monopoly? The game is about manipulation and making people believe they have the better deal, or else you wind up moving around the board getting nowhere.

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Let them make travel agreements, whats the big deal. There is nothing wrong to continue with trading with the EU as long as the Britons make the laws of their own land, and not some overseas unelected undemocratic empire. I know Im anti-EU but if I was leader of an independent nation I would talk and trade with them myself.
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Erm, because that was one of the major promises of the Leave campaign. So it's a big deal for those who voted on false promises. Entering into the European trade market comes with conditions and you can easily end up shafted on any deal you try and make - increased tariffs, restrictions etc.

It's not as simple as you are making it seem.
 
Jiigzz said:
The USA hasn't been to war with either of those nations in hundreds of years, moreover, neither Canada or Mexico would have the means of waging a war against the US. Europe has had two MAJOR wars in less than a century and a series of smaller conflicts in the same time period which stemmed from WW1 and WW2 (Greco Turkish war, Hungary-Romania war, Cod wars etc.). Europe has like 50+ countries, all with their own intentions and a need to balance power and resource struggle. You're seriously saying that because the US hasn't fought with it's two neighbours, that no countries in Europe need some form of unification to prevent a war breaking out between 50 countries in close proximity? Cmon

Your arguments are full of red herrings and conspiracy, it makes me wonder if you trust ANYTHING to do with government. I bet if they admitted everything you accused them of, you would think that a conspiracy as well.

Countries are all about control, and you would be a fool to think that would ever change. Everything is a power struggle and it will always be. You would make a new system which would then become a power struggle, or it would fail miserably because no one would have any power and so no-one would agree to your terms. Ever played monopoly? The game is about manipulation and making people believe they have the better deal, or else you wind up moving around the board getting nowhere.

I'd have genuine fear for any govt you would instill.



Erm, because that was one of the major promises of the Leave campaign. So it's a big deal for those who voted on false promises. You sound like you would create a nation like North Korea given the chance, good luck with that.
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Im sorry, you can spend the rest of your life in this thread telling me how important the EU is, but I will NEVER accept an foreign unelected bureaucratic dictatorship where the Superstate and big banking elite is superior to the interests of the people sovereign states of Europe. Nope, not happening, never ever. Not this set up, no way.

You are far far far off the boat, you support a government like north korea, your the one who wants unelected bureaucrats running the laws of the people, not me.

My government will respect individual liberty and freedoms to the people, small government not some big bureaucratic unelected dictators which is far from the terrorism offered by north korea or the EU.
 
Jiigzz said:
Erm, because that was one of the major promises of the Leave campaign. So it's a big deal for those who voted on false promises. Entering into the European trade market comes with conditions and you can easily end up shafted on any deal you try and make - increased tariffs, restrictions etc.

It's not as simple as you are making it seem.
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This is the biggest difference, at least now the people of England if they dont like their officials, they may vote politicians out of office and choose something better. What you support is no choice of government. EU IS North Korea.
 
ax1 said:
This is the biggest difference, at least now the people of England if they dont like their officials, they may vote politicians out of office and choose something better. What you support is no choice of government. EU IS North Korea.
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I thought you've kept saying that we only have the illusion of choice. I think you're starting to contradict your own conspiracies with new ones.
 
Gutterpump said:
I thought you've kept saying that we only have the illusion of choice. I think you're starting to contradict your own conspiracies with new ones.
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Your not getting it, perhaps its my fault I wasnt clear enough but the Republican and Democratic party gives the illusion of choice. That doesnt meant I dont think we can wake people up to this fact that both parties are financed by the same people and get them to steer their votes differently from the 1 party oligarchy that has been in power for decades.

We have choices, but republican/democratic party is really the Republicrats and Demican party. They are coke and pepsi.

Thats what I meant.
 
“We need a common (military) headquarters and a coalition (of EU countries) acting in accordance with the permanent structural cooperation of the EU Treaty. From such a group an EU army could eventually arise.”

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They are going to try to get real hardcore in their suppression of individual sovereignty really soon.



Joy, bright spark of divinity,
Daughter of Elysium,
Fire-inspired we tread
Thy sanctuary.
Thy magic power re-unites
All that custom has divided,
All men become brothers
Under the sway of thy gentle wings.

Whoever has created
An abiding friendship,
Or has won a true and loving wife,
Join in our song of praise,
Yes, all who can call at least one soul
Theirs upon this earth;
But any who cannot must creep tearfully
Away from our circle.

All creatures drink of joy
At nature's breast.
Just and unjust
Alike taste of her gift;
She gave us kisses and the fruit of the vine,
A tried friend to the end.
Even the worm can feel contentment,
And the cherub stands before God!

Gladly,
As His heavenly bodies fly
On their courses through the heavens,
Thus, brothers, you should run your race,
As a hero going to conquest.

You millions, I embrace you.
This kiss is for all the world!
Brothers, above the starry canopy
There must dwell a loving Father.
Do you fall in worship, you millions?
World, do you know your creator?
Seek him in the heavens;
Above the stars must He dwell.

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Gutterpump said:
So the Republican and Democratic parties give the illusion of choice and all other global governments / parties are exempt?
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In the EU there is no illusion of choice. Why? With the EU you cant even vote for top commision, so the only thing you can do is convince people to rebel which is what Britain finally did and other countries should do before its too late.

Its really up to them not me, but many people are growing aware of the global order and 8 other countries now are looking to get out too before its too late.
 
ax1 said:
Im sorry, you can spend the rest of your life in this thread telling me how important the EU is, but I will NEVER accept an foreign unelected bureaucratic dictatorship where the Superstate and big banking elite is superior to the interests of the people sovereign states of Europe. Nope, not happening, never ever. Not this set up, no way.

You are far far far off the boat, you support a government like north korea, your the one who wants unelected bureaucrats running the laws of the people, not me.

My government will respect individual liberty and freedoms to the people, small government not some big bureaucratic unelected dictators which is far from the terrorism offered by north korea or the EU.
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I edited my response about the North Korea comment because I misread something.

While you may disagree on it, the money spent on EU fees is distributed to smaller nations for technological and infrastructural development, sure, not all of it makes it there but it is a huge chunk that is spent on developing EU nations.

-Growth (aimed at enhancing competitiveness for growth and jobs and economic, social and territorial cohesion);
-Natural resources (covering the common agricultural and common fisheries policies, and rural and environmental measures);
-Security and citizenship (covering justice, border protection, immigration and asylum, public health, consumer protection and culture);
-Foreign policy (including development assistance or humanitarian aid outside the EU);
-Administration (covering all the European institutions, pensions and European schools); and
-Compensations (temporary payments to Croatia).

Each member state can elect members to the Council of European Union (well, they are govt officials who are elected in national elections).

Every EU citizen residing in an EU country of which he/she is not a national has the right to vote and to stand as a candidate in European Parliamentary elections in his/her country of residence, under the same conditions as nationals of that country - this right is enshrined in Article 39 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union. In addition, the right to vote is included in Articles 20(1) and 22(1) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. To this extent all EU countries keep electoral registers containing the names of all eligible voters in the specific region, to which eligible newcomers to the area can apply at any time to have their names added. EU citizens are then eligible to vote for the duration of their stay in that country.
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ax1 said:
This is the biggest difference, at least now the people of England if they dont like their officials, they may vote politicians out of office and choose something better. What you support is no choice of government. EU IS North Korea.
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The UK has ALWAYS been able to vote in and out politicians for their own country. They have their own general elections.
 
Jiigzz said:
I edited my response about the North Korea comment because I misread something.

While you may disagree on it, the money spent on EU fees is distributed to smaller nations for technological and infrastructural development, sure, not all of it makes it there but it is a huge chunk that is spent on developing EU nations.

-Growth (aimed at enhancing competitiveness for growth and jobs and economic, social and territorial cohesion);
-Natural resources (covering the common agricultural and common fisheries policies, and rural and environmental measures);
-Security and citizenship (covering justice, border protection, immigration and asylum, public health, consumer protection and culture);
-Foreign policy (including development assistance or humanitarian aid outside the EU);
-Administration (covering all the European institutions, pensions and European schools); and
-Compensations (temporary payments to Croatia).

Each member state can elect members to the Council of European Union (well, they are govt officials who are elected in national elections).





The UK has ALWAYS been able to vote in and out politicians for their own country. They have their own general elections.
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I dont support world government, nor do I support world policing.

Those decisions should be in full control of Britain's people and their elected officials, not an overseas unelected bureaucracy. And yes, unelected, that is the commission that has unelected bureaucratic officials.

The people in England/Britain are taxed and they should have 100% say where and what to do with their own money and how to distribute it. The people of England have a right to control who and stays in and out of their country. The people of England should have their own regulations and laws of their land, no EU commission will EVER have the interests of the British people in mind. Britain is Britain, and Britain will serve its people better than an overseas superstate unelected power.

We have to different chains of thought here, Im for democracy, small government, liberty and power to the people. You are a big government socialist who trusts big government to have the biggest set of keys and enforce their regulations on all sovereign nations taking out choice and democracy.

I dont support dictatorship, Im all for democracy so Ill be here all day debating but be aware we arent probably going to sway eachother's opinions.
 
Jiigzz said:
-Security and citizenship (covering justice, border protection, immigration and asylum, public health, consumer protection and culture);
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ROFL I mean how can I take any of this serious from you. The EU isnt protecting Britains borders, its totally wide open and the British have no say.

Europe is slowly going into chaos with all the mass wave of immigration never before seen in history, and you post EU propaganda up in the mug?

Border protection without the say of the people and their own elected officials, year right, ROFL
 
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-Security and citizenship (covering justice, border protection, immigration and asylum, public health, consumer protection and culture);
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Here is EU's border protection for you, ROFL!!!!! Nice job EU!

 
ax1 said:
ROFL I mean how can I take any of this serious from you. The EU isnt protecting Britains borders, its totally wide open and the British have no say.

Europe is slowly going into chaos with all the mass wave of immigration never before seen in history, and you post EU propaganda up in the mug?

Border protection without the say of the people and their own elected officials, year right, ROFL
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That's because they are under the Schengen Agreement. When it comes to other nations, they have a hard time getting through. Cmon man, i've been over that already.

Seeking Asylum is another thing entirely as well. Unfortunately many of the wars has given people no other choice but to flee. Funny that a war the US and UK created (as put forward by you guys in this thread) has created issues that other nations have to deal with, meanwhile the US is too far away for them to realistically get to.

You guys also claim to have immigration issues, so much so that you need to build a massive wall to keep people out. Weren't you the one who said land borders were hard to control and monitor? This applies for plenty of European countries as well.

Also you completely skip over the parts where people are voted into EU council, but I guess that goes against what you are saying...?
 
ax1 said:
I dont support world government, nor do I support world policing.

Those decisions should be in full control of Britain's people and their elected officials, not an overseas unelected bureaucracy. And yes, unelected, that is the commission that has unelected bureaucratic officials.

The people in England/Britain are taxed and they should have 100% say where and what to do with their own money and how to distribute it. The people of England have a right to control who and stays in and out of their country. The people of England should have their own regulations and laws of their land, no EU commission will EVER have the interests of the British people in mind. Britain is Britain, and Britain will serve its people better than an overseas superstate unelected power.

We have to different chains of thought here, Im for democracy, small government, liberty and power to the people. You are a big government socialist who trusts big government to have the biggest set of keys and enforce their regulations on all sovereign nations taking out choice and democracy.

I dont support dictatorship, Im all for democracy so Ill be here all day debating but be aware we arent probably going to sway eachother's opinions.
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They HAVE done. They voted INTO the EU. And now they have voted out. How much more power do you want them to have?? You don't have any say in like 90% of the laws passed in the US, but yet you act like you do. Your arguments are full of red herrings. Let's assume people cannot vote on EU laws, neither can you on a majority of US laws. Neither can I personally. I vote for people to make decisions on my behalf, that's how democracy works. You vote people in (like with Eu elections) and they make decisions of your behalf.

You support conspiracy and refuse to trust anything. All your information is from sources of a similar mind frame and yet you accept them almost without question - just how you quoted someone who didn't actually say what you quoted them as saying.
 
Jiigzz said:
That's because they are under the Schengen Agreement. When it comes to other nations, they have a hard time getting through. Cmon man, i've been over that already.

Seeking Asylum is another thing entirely as well. Unfortunately many of the wars has given people no other choice but to flee. Funny that a war the US and UK created (as put forward by you guys in this thread) has created issues that other nations have to deal with, meanwhile the US is too far away for them to realistically get to.

You guys also claim to have immigration issues, so much so that you need to build a massive wall to keep people out. Weren't you the one who said land borders were hard to control and monitor? This applies for plenty of European countries as well.

Also you completely skip over the parts where people are voted into EU council, but I guess that goes against what you are saying...?
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I dont support the wall, but the illegals in this country need to face criminal charges, they broke the law. Welfare and social services need to be eliminated and all incentives to come here need to be eliminated. This can easily done by enforcement, arrests, prosecution and detention.

Border patrol has been given the stand down order to let the illegals flood in, there are diseases being let in with no quarantine and they use our services which are payed by our own tax dollars.

This country is broke, 20 trillion broke and unemployment is bad. Just like the great depression, we need to seal the borders for the sake of the future of this country. We cant afford to let illegals flood the borders.

I went over your last statement, your partially right but there is a group in the commission unelected, not selected by Parliament and if the Parliament challenge them they are completely powerless. Hardly anybody can even name who they are, they are the most powerful and anonymous. Perhaps your going to go on the EU website find nothing and believe them, thats fine go for it.
 
I am not vehemently opposed to an EU army, should one ever eventuate. You would claim it is to police to Eu, my bet is that they would use it to deter aggressiveness from Russia. You seek conspiracy, I seek rationale. It is unlikely one or the other and it may serve both purposes. Who is to say?
 
Jiigzz said:
They HAVE done. They voted INTO the EU. And now they have voted out. How much more power do you want them to have?? You don't have any say in like 90% of the laws passed in the US, but yet you act like you do. Your arguments are full of red herrings. Let's assume people cannot vote on EU laws, neither can you on a majority of US laws. Neither can I personally. I vote for people to make decisions on my behalf, that's how democracy works. You vote people in (like with Eu elections) and they make decisions of your behalf.

You support conspiracy and refuse to trust anything. All your information is from sources of a similar mind frame and yet you accept them almost without question - just how you quoted someone who didn't actually say what you quoted them as saying.
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Ahhhh, the conspiracy slogan, ohhhhh duh wait my basement is flooding.
 
Jiigzz said:
I am not vehemently opposed to an EU army, should one ever eventuate. You would claim it is to police to Eu, my bet is that they would use it to deter aggressiveness from Russia. You seek conspiracy, I seek rationale. It is unlikely one or the other and it may serve both purposes. Who is to say?
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Yeah right now russian fear mongering, like they are the aggressors and eu isnt, lol
 
Jiigzz said:
I am not vehemently opposed to an EU army, should one ever eventuate. You would claim it is to police to Eu, my bet is that they would use it to deter aggressiveness from Russia. You seek conspiracy, I seek rationale. It is unlikely one or the other and it may serve both purposes. Who is to say?
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The EU's army number 1 purpose is to prevent further exits and to protect the only sovereignty that matters to them, which is EU as a whole.

They will do anything to keep its power afloat.
 
ax1 said:
I dont support the wall, but the illegals in this country need to face criminal charges, they broke the law. Welfare and social services need to be eliminated and all incentives to come here need to be eliminated. This can easily done by enforcement, arrests, prosecution and detention.

Border patrol has been given the stand down order to let the illegals flood in, there are diseases being let in with no quarantine and they use our services which are payed by our own tax dollars.

This country is broke, 20 trillion broke and unemployment is bad. Just like the great depression, we need to seal the borders for the sake of the future of this country. We cant afford to let illegals flood the borders.

I went over your last statement, your partially right but there is a group in the commission unelected, not selected by Parliament and if the Parliament challenge them they are completely powerless. Hardly anybody can even name who they are, they are the most powerful and anonymous. Perhaps your going to go on the EU website find nothing and believe them, thats fine go for it.
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FWIW I can see your points. And I agree to a degree.

The UK may benefit from leaving, or it won't. I know NZ trade relations have dropped with GB after they moved into the EU because of restrictions they impose.

It's too soon to tell if this will work in their favour or not
 
“We need a common (military) headquarters and a coalition (of EU countries) acting in accordance with the permanent structural cooperation of the EU Treaty. From such a group an EU army could eventually arise.”

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Yeah right now russian fear mongering, like they are the aggressors and eu isnt, lol
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Haha.

Good point. It's always a balance of power. I'd rather be on the side of the greater power, though ;)
 
Jiigzz said:
FWIW I can see your points. And I agree to a degree.

The UK may benefit from leaving, or it won't. I know NZ trade relations have dropped with GB after they moved into the EU because of restrictions they impose.

It's too soon to tell if this will work in their favour or not
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Is money all that really matters to you? Im serious.

There is more to life than money, not saying its not important it is but really alot of people are tribal by nature and have interests in protecting they heritage and culture. Im not big into that myself, but going to China for example their cultural integrity means EVERYTHING to them.
 
Jiigzz said:
Haha.

Good point. It's always a balance of power. I'd rather be on the side of the greater power, though ;)
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Im in the USA!! lol

We need to talk and be friends with russia. What happened in the Ukraine was the overthrown of the elected leadership set up by the EU and Obama (and yes, Obama said it out of his own mouth in a interview.)

Russia took Crimea, their only port in the west. I really dont blame them.

Both sides do screwed up things, its really sad to see.
 
Just thoughts and prayers to the victims in Turkey, 10 dead 60 wounded at an airport. May the Turks be strong during this crisis and recover fast.
 
ax1 said:
Is money all that really matters to you? Im serious.

There is more to life than money, not saying its not important it is but really alot of people are tribal by nature and have interests in protecting they heritage and culture. Im not big into that myself, but going to China for example their cultural integrity means EVERYTHING to them.
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Personally, it matters in the slightest to me. In regards to how the world works, it means everything.

The main thing is, UK leaving may have strict penalties imposed for doing so, hurting their economy. It's easy to not care about money when you both have it, and it's worth something. Thousands may lose their jobs from Brexit if trade negotiations don't go well, and I can assure you, money will be a considerable topic around the dinner table when that happens.

I live in NZ where ethnically we are very diverse, yet not well integrated IMO. We have entire areas that are 'hubs' or certain races and you will notice that most in Auckland. But everyone is proud of their heritage and we encourage it as a nation - not to the extent of China, I don't think anyone could out-pride them except maybe Americans.

What I care about is sustainability, area livability and other things related.
 
ax1 said:
Im in the USA!! lol

We need to talk and be friends with russia. What happened in the Ukraine was the overthrown of the elected leadership set up by the EU and Obama (and yes, Obama said it out of his own mouth in a interview.)

Russia took Crimea, their only port in the west. I really dont blame them.

Both sides do screwed up things, its really sad to see.
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All I want is for my family, and my children to grow up in a world where total nuclear annihilation is not a imminent threat. When one nation or group has complete power, I worry for what will happen next.
 
ax1 said:
Just thoughts and prayers to the victims in Turkey, 10 dead 60 wounded at an airport. May the Turks be strong during this crisis and recover fast.
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Agreed :(
 
Jiigzz said:
Personally, it matters in the slightest to me. In regards to how the world works, it means everything.

The main thing is, UK leaving may have strict penalties imposed for doing so, hurting their economy. It's easy to not care about money when you both have it, and it's worth something. Thousands may lose their jobs from Brexit if trade negotiations don't go well, and I can assure you, money will be a considerable topic around the dinner table when that happens.

I live in NZ where ethnically we are very diverse, yet not well integrated IMO. We have entire areas that are 'hubs' or certain races and you will notice that most in Auckland. But everyone is proud of their heritage and we encourage it as a nation - not to the extent of China, I don't think anyone could out-pride them except maybe Americans.

What I care about is sustainability, area livability and other things related.
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I think the British people are strong and will prosper in due time.

Interesting about NZ, I barely hear anything about it. Do you have a true native population there like the indians here in the US?
 
ax1 said:
I think the British people are strong and will prosper in due time.

Interesting about NZ, I barely hear anything about it. Do you have a true native population there like the indians here in the US?
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Yeah, that's what I hope for for them. If it works, all the more power to them.

Maoris are our native population. They have a huge cultural presence in NZ now as opposed to a few decades ago (the HAKA in rugby games, moko, and place names being in Maori for example).

The Haka gets me fired up no matter how many times I see it
 
rtmilburn said:
Well you wouldn't know what immigrants are, you're Canadian! Gross, who would ever want to immigrate there. Not to mention you guys have th greatest wall ever made, called America. ;):P:)
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Haha.... Everyone complains about immigrants, may as well round us all up, gas us, and build walls!!
That'll end the problem for GOOD!
 
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