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When, since EU's creation have any European nations within that agreement gone to war with each other? I must be missing something.



Even though Switzerland is not part of the Eu, they rely heavily on them



Yup, the EU should disintegrate because it helps no-one :rolleyes:

ROFL now you upset my cat!

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There is a HUGE difference between being a genius and politics. Both dont necessarily belong together.

Now Einstein obviously wasnt a EU insider and did not know of its secret intentions as the actual founding fathers did.

I bet Einstein didnt have a chance to read the 176,000 page regulation book that the EU enforces on all its nations.

But you on the other hand like unelected dictators running your country, so if thats what you want so be it.

Democracy > dictatorship.

Have you read the 176,000 pages? Or do you read about it on the internet and assume all you read is true? I will assume the latter.

The fact Monnet never said what you think he said is kinda funny. You need to fact check more
 
ROFL now you upset my cat!

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I have a feeling your in over your head with EU politics
 
Have you read the 176,000 pages? Or do you read about it on the internet and assume all you read is true? I will assume the latter.

The fact Monnet never said what you think he said is kinda funny. You need to fact check more

Nobody has, but perhaps you should directly look into these regulations that effect the British people and you will understand why they voted to get these terrorists out of their own laws of the land.
 
I gotta step out and do cardio (duh some of use work out here time to time, lol)

I hope my british friends that have joined up recently in this thread can do a much better job explaining why Britain voted to exit.
 
Nobody has, but perhaps you should directly look into these regulations that effect the British people and you will understand why they voted to get these terrorists out of their own laws of the land.

They voted for a few reasons:

Decrease immigration. Admittedly, it's been stupidly high because of the free travel agreements between EU nations. But guess what? The Leave campaign cannot guarantee numbers will drop because in order to stay afloat, they will be required to sign the EFTA, which calls for free movement of people within nations (to prevent xenophobia). Essentially, they will leave the EU where they are able to influence policies and join the EFTU where they will have little say in trade agreements and no say in new laws.

They voted because they thought the 350 million Euros would go into Medical care - Nigel Farage and back tracked on that claim and stated that the 350 million euros wouldn't likely be directed where they promised it would.

The majority of Britons who voted leave, had NO idea what the Eu even was or what it did. In fact, Google had a huge surge of people Googling what the EU was AFTER voting to leave.

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People left because they were lied to about what function the EU provides and where the money spent would be redirected to.

There is no conspiracy why they voted leave, they, for the most part, were deceived.
 
For me the main reason voting out was the inability of the U.K. to make major laws without interference from the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, another was being unable to have any say of who can enter the country from the EU, many of the people who have entered have little or no skills and we have an abundance of that skill set of our own. Yes we do need immigration but we should be able to choose who comes in.
 
The EU needs to reform but it is becoming an ageing dinosaur set on a single track to complete political union and eventually an EU army
 
I gotta step out and do cardio (duh some of use work out here time to time, lol)

I hope my british friends that have joined up recently in this thread can do a much better job explaining why Britain voted to exit.

You can read a lot of Britons thoughts on Brexit on Quora

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The EU is encouraging Britain to leave sooner rather than later to protect their economies. If they had some ulterior motive to keep Countries in, they sure arn't doing a good job with this one.

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3 million + people have signed a petition to have a second referendum, but the EU is almost forcing their hand now. The EU cannot invoke article 50 on their behalf, but they sure don't want them hanging around.

But once again, which EU nations within the EU are at war or have been at war since its establishment?
 
Pulling out of the Eu is one of the worst possible things GB could have done, moreover it was an extremely miscalculated move from David Cameron. Financial institutions with strong ties to London are already considering jumping ship (foregin banks have already started shifting operations to EU), tech founders will consider moving hubs outside GB, and many other large corporations will consider moving bases outside GB. European markets are tanking, and financial institutions are still recovering from the last recession, not more than 8 years ago.

The world markets dropped 2.8 TRILLION in 1 day.

It's a **** show that GB would allow such a decision to put to public vote and place no super majority voting structure on it. Roughly 50% of GB populous are under educated, and many didn't even know what the EU was before voting. David Cameron wanted an even playing field because he was certain he would win his gamble for the remain vote, putting the issue of the EU to rest for the rest of his tenure, but he underestimated the growth of the leave campaign and didn't do enough to counter the 350 million euro a week claim the leave campaigners made (which they lied about).

It's still early days, but Quora and other sites are blowing up about how disastrous this is likely to be.

The UK will likely fall apart, and even London wants independence from Britain. The latter won't occur, but it goes to show just how divided the country became overnight.

roughly 50% of the u.s. is under educated....and they voted for Obama. look how disastrous that has been-geez, you want to talk about a divided country!!!

a large portion of democrats are high school drop outs, are you saying they should not be allowed to vote because they are under educated?
 
roughly 50% of the u.s. is under educated....and they voted for Obama. look how disastrous that has been-geez, you want to talk about a divided country!!!

a large portion of democrats are high school drop outs, are you saying they should not be allowed to vote because they are under educated?

They can vote on who is elected to power, but in cases where the effect has potentially disastrous effects, super majority votes should be in place. In business, decisions are usually not cast until 75% of shareholders agree. It's common practice to have a 2/3 or 3/5 vote for strategic decisions.

This accounts for those who are 2 heavily invested in either one direction, or who have no idea what they are voting for.
 
They voted for a few reasons:

Decrease immigration. Admittedly, it's been stupidly high because of the free travel agreements between EU nations. But guess what? The Leave campaign cannot guarantee numbers will drop because in order to stay afloat, they will be required to sign the EFTA, which calls for free movement of people within nations (to prevent xenophobia). Essentially, they will leave the EU where they are able to influence policies and join the EFTU where they will have little say in trade agreements and no say in new laws.

They voted because they thought the 350 million Euros would go into Medical care - Nigel Farage and back tracked on that claim and stated that the 350 million euros wouldn't likely be directed where they promised it would.

The majority of Britons who voted leave, had NO idea what the Eu even was or what it did. In fact, Google had a huge surge of people Googling what the EU was AFTER voting to leave.

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People left because they were lied to about what function the EU provides and where the money spent would be redirected to.

There is no conspiracy why they voted leave, they, for the most part, were deceived.

Sounds likE the Obamacare campaign. "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
 
They can vote on who is elected to power, but in cases where the effect has potentially disastrous effects, super majority votes should be in place. In business, decisions are usually not cast until 75% of shareholders agree. It's common practice to have a 2/3 or 3/5 vote for strategic decisions.

This accounts for those who are 2 heavily invested in either one direction, or who have no idea what they are voting for.

imo, their voting for Obama has been pretty darned disastrous!!!

the 60's and 70's were turbulent times, but most of the resentment was towards the government not towards each other, as it is today.
 
Sounds likE the Obamacare campaign. "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I don't know enough about Obamacare to comment.

Time will tell if Britain made a good choice, but undoubtedly they will still negotiate terms to become a part of the EU trade to stay afloat, but in doing so, will still need to agree to travel agreements, which goes against what the Leave campaign was about. But good luck surviving if EU will not trade with you
 
imo, their voting for Obama has been pretty darned disastrous!!!

the 60's and 70's were turbulent times, but most of the resentment was towards the government not towards each other, as it is today.

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I don't know enough about Obamacare to comment.

Time will tell if Britain made a good choice, but undoubtedly they will still negotiate terms to become a part of the EU trade to stay afloat, but in doing so, will still need to agree to travel agreements, which goes against what the Leave campaign was about. But good luck surviving if EU will not trade with you

Likes of BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Bosch, Miele etc will not allow their Government nor will the wine and cheese industry in France to impose punitive taxes on UK exports that in turn will be reciprocated by the UK when our market is their largest.

As for surviving outside of the EU we have now potentially opened a new 2 billion people market where we can now negotiate trade deals that we are not permitted to do before.

It may well be a mistake voting to leave but it is what it is and now we have to move on with or without the EU.
 
The EU needs to reform but it is becoming an ageing dinosaur set on a single track to complete political union and eventually an EU army

I would totally dismantle it and just set up a whole new system. Once a system is compromised best to abolish it. I mean congrats, these countries didnt war against each other but neither has the USA gone to war with canada and mexico. You dont need a unelected big bank bureaucratic all encompassing government to enforce it.

The problem is with government itself. Once established the limits to the powers governments seeks to achieve are unlimited. This is government by nature corrupt. Reasoning democracy and separation of(elected) powers provide society with better protection in regards to sovereignty and liberty.

We have seen this with our own very eyes, what was t be about peace and economy has turned to methods of control, heavy regulation and domination by foreign powers. Democracy is oblivion.

Countries can sign agreements for the travel, and as far as war is concerned, just dont have a shytfit with another country and mind your own business. No EU is going to prevent a war that can be established by means of not being an azzhole. Have free markets and trading and set the opportunities for people to prosper rather than the crony capitalism the EU set up regulations to wipe out competition of the middleclass and the biggest of the big prosper the most, the people that prop up the EU.
 
You can read a lot of Britons thoughts on Brexit on Quora

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The EU is encouraging Britain to leave sooner rather than later to protect their economies. If they had some ulterior motive to keep Countries in, they sure arn't doing a good job with this one.

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3 million + people have signed a petition to have a second referendum, but the EU is almost forcing their hand now. The EU cannot invoke article 50 on their behalf, but they sure don't want them hanging around.

But once again, which EU nations within the EU are at war or have been at war since its establishment?

I dont side with any Briton party, even most of th Brexit party. Im for exit for my very own reasons.

Anyways, congrats that the EU didnt have a shyfit and bomb eachother. What an amazing accomplishment. Im really proud people were tired of war after WWII. Now, Im willing to bet that without the EU there still wouldnt be a shyfit on levels of a war. Its not that complicated.

Now, EU members certainly have been in endless wars since the creation of EU. Political leaders who back the EU establishment, some of the very same people that joined NATO have been in endless wars from Korea, to gulf war, afghanistan, to the current syrian war and overthrow of the elected government and new civil war in the Ukraine.

The EU and its backers are mostly war mongering dictators, Id abolish all of them.
 
They can vote on who is elected to power, but in cases where the effect has potentially disastrous effects, super majority votes should be in place. In business, decisions are usually not cast until 75% of shareholders agree. It's common practice to have a 2/3 or 3/5 vote for strategic decisions.

This accounts for those who are 2 heavily invested in either one direction, or who have no idea what they are voting for.

You know how many people for decades in EU countries were able to vote for their top of the chain policy makers? 0%.
 
There is no conspiracy why they voted leave, they, for the most part, were deceived.

Maybe the Brits are sick and tired of not being able to vote for their kings, so the vote to exit is really a vote to be able to vote.
 
I don't know enough about Obamacare to comment.

Time will tell if Britain made a good choice, but undoubtedly they will still negotiate terms to become a part of the EU trade to stay afloat, but in doing so, will still need to agree to travel agreements, which goes against what the Leave campaign was about. But good luck surviving if EU will not trade with you

Let them make travel agreements, whats the big deal. There is nothing wrong to continue with trading with the EU as long as the Britons make the laws of their own land, and not some overseas unelected undemocratic empire. I know Im anti-EU but if I was leader of an independent nation I would talk and trade with them myself.
 
Video about the d bag who put up the "make America white again" bill board

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Video about the d bag who put up the "make America white again" bill board

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Oh god. See, now thats the kind of **** that makes dems think all repubs are racist idiots.
 
Video about the d bag who put up the "make America white again" bill board

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how dare they...don't they know that black lives matter!!!

how can that bounce girl do a halftime super bowl show based on black panthers and no one says anything...oh, I forgot racism only works if it's whites.

racism is bad, no matter what race is doing it...PERIOD!!!!
 
how dare they...don't they know that black lives matter!!!

how can that bounce girl do a halftime super bowl show based on black panthers and no one says anything...oh, I forgot racism only works if it's whites.

racism is bad, no matter what race is doing it...PERIOD!!!!
I had a gay Spanish TA for college writing 2, and he told me I can't be discriminated against because I'm white...
 
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MOST OF THOSE QUOTED ARE PUNDITS....ask the guy on the street and I bet you will not find so favorable views...

Obama is was and will forever be remembered as a disaster to me!!!!

start a poll here at AM...I bet Obama gets sunk!!!
 
I had a gay Spanish TA for college writing 2, and he told me I can't be discriminated against because I'm white...

lol...exactly

that is the view of many if not most liberals...I heard larry king say that many years ago on his talk show and I nearly fell out of bed, I think that view coincides with being a racist if you are proud of being white.
 
lol...exactly

that is the view of many if not most liberals...I heard larry king say that many years ago on his talk show and I nearly fell out of bed, I think that view coincides with being a racist if you are proud of being white.
I asked him if the Dean would agree with that.

He said I can't talk about discrimination because I look like an Aryan...

Honesty, he just isn't comfortable with himself (a very small gay Spanish guy), and took it out on me (a relatively big, blond haired, straight white guy). Dude would just not give me an A in the class. I think I got a B+. He said I write in an "overly-academic tone." I'm an engineering major at a UNIVERSITY. I think it just went over his head.
 
I asked him if the Dean would agree with that.

He said I can't talk about discrimination because I look like an Aryan...

Honesty, he just isn't comfortable with himself (a very small gay Spanish guy), and took it out on me (a relatively big, blond haired, straight white guy). Dude would just not give me an A in the class. I think I got a B+. He said I write in an "overly-academic tone." I'm an engineering major at a UNIVERSITY. I think it just went over his head.

unfortunately a B+ is not as good as a A for your grade point average....fortunately a writing class B+ should not affect your engineering carreer.


sometimes those who should be against racism and bigotry are the worst practioners!!!
 
MOST OF THOSE QUOTED ARE PUNDITS....ask the guy on the street and I bet you will not find so favorable views...

Obama is was and will forever be remembered as a disaster to me!!!!

start a poll here at AM...I bet Obama gets sunk!!!

I'm not one for American politics, or really even care, but all I really have heard is that if you're democratic, you hate all republicans no matter what or who they are, and vice versa lol.

Because I only hear good things from those who are Democratic

In saying that, it seems like his approval has gone full circle. Meh, his INTL image is really good. Don't know about his image overall in the US
 
I'm not one for American politics, or really even care, but all I really have heard is that if you're democratic, you hate all republicans no matter what or who they are, and vice versa lol.

Because I only hear good things from those who are Democratic

In saying that, it seems like his approval has gone full circle. Meh, his INTL image is really good. Don't know about his image overall in the US

The image isnt necessarily of the US but rather who you ask.

I actually voted for Obama in 08 and after he flip flopped on all his campaign promises I disowned him in about 6 months into office.

Now, here in the US you will either find people that love him or hate him. Just like with the previous republican canditate george bush.

Really, they just take turns destroying our rights and liberties...... republicans and democrats are barely different from each other. I question if Trump really is different, I dunno will have to find out if he wins.
 
The image isnt necessarily of the US but rather who you ask.

I actually voted for Obama in 08 and after he flip flopped on all his campaign promises I disowned him in about 6 months into office.

Now, here in the US you will either find people that love him or hate him. Just like with the previous republican canditate george bush.

Really, they just take turns destroying our rights and liberties...... republicans and democrats are barely different from each other. I question if Trump really is different, I dunno will have to find out if he wins.

We need another Reagan(but minus his government spending). That is what it will take to make this country great again, not trump.
 
Id pick Ron Paul.

I'm not a fan thb but I don't think hes bad and he would be million times better than trump or Hillary.

I want #1 speaker of the house Paul Ryan if he runs next election or #2 Mitt Romney to give it another go
 
Want to know what's scary.... if Killary gets elected president, there is a good chance the Obama will become a justice in the Supreme Court
 
We need another Reagan(but minus his government spending). That is what it will take to make this country great again, not trump.

You weren't even born when he was president! Why do you think he was a good president? I find a lot of people that make the statement that he was a good president haven't looked too deep into what he actually did and didn't do.
 
You weren't even born when he was president! Why do you think he was a good president? I find a lot of people that make the statement that he was a good president haven't looked too deep into what he actually did and didn't do.

Ok sure I wasn't born, when he was president. However, I can read through text books, Google, and history channel(btw this is my favorite TV station) to find out what he did.
1) single handedly ruined the USSR
2) had great foreign and domestic policy, that brought the country closer together
3) lowered the unemployment rate
4) increase the average income per house without decreasing the value of the dollar

I would consider that a successful presidency. Whu?

Do you dislike him? If you do I would like to know, as I'm open to learning.

Now I do think he did some bad things in office as well. Like his standard on government spending was WAY WAY to much.
 
Trying to figure out why people are still trying to act like the 2nd amendment was written for muskets.
 
Want to know what's scary.... if Killary gets elected president, there is a good chance the Obama will become a justice in the Supreme Court

Possible, but I think they Obama is going to hold off to be Secretary General of the United Nations. We will see.
 
You weren't even born when he was president! Why do you think he was a good president? I find a lot of people that make the statement that he was a good president haven't looked too deep into what he actually did and didn't do.

I thought he was ok until he got shot and they showed him who boss really was.
 
Ok sure I wasn't born, when he was president. However, I can read through text books, Google, and history channel(btw this is my favorite TV station) to find out what he did.
1) single handedly ruined the USSR
2) had great foreign and domestic policy, that brought the country closer together
3) lowered the unemployment rate
4) increase the average income per house without decreasing the value of the dollar

I would consider that a successful presidency. Whu?

Do you dislike him? If you do I would like to know, as I'm open to learning.

Now I do think he did some bad things in office as well. Like his standard on government spending was WAY WAY to much.

It was also under his administration where they financed muhajadeem (who later became al-queda) and Bin laden, although muhajadeem was created by the CIA in the late 70's a few years earlier.

Also there is Iran Contra with all that weapon smuggling (history keeps repeating itself with Obama now), cocaine trafficing, assassination of a DEA agent, and more.....There was a hidden (aka lost to gain 3 more GOP votes) chapter that showed private WH fundraising, and most importantly showed how the Reagan administration ran a covert propaganda system with the CIA and disinformation specialists out of the NSC to lie and thwart public opinion and crush political opposition and alot more too much to post here.

He also attacked civil liberties and expanded illegal eavesdropping on Americans, probably the worst up until that time, weakening the freedom of information act decreasing government transparency, trumping states rights with "Federal pre-emption,"

I can keep going on but Reagan represents BIG government, unlike as he states "government is the problem" he is not a small government president.

Ill give him this, he was a puppet after the Bush's tried to assassinate him, and a puppet by force unlike the volunteer Obama is but responsibility still falls on his hands. He did work to eliminate the fairness doctrine although of course that was to try to pull for internal advantage but good riddance. Also, his era is certainly not as bad as the Bush era and Obama era, I think people see things so bad currently and the direction we are heading that they are desensitized into thinking the lesser of evils is absolute greatness.
 
I laughed so hard when I read that. Thanks. The time we wasted on that dumb and endless argument.

It wasn't an argument actually. I believe I asked people to answer a question and back themselves up and nobody could/did. Not sure how that's viewed as arguing. But carry on.
 
On a less serious topic, what are y'all doing for July 4th?

I'm hitting up a pool party / house warming party with a group of people who all try to outdo each other with patriotic outfits.

As the resident Canadian, I had to make sure I have them all beat, just to shame them.

I've built a hybrid costume that's a combination of Rocky Balboa, Captain America, and Ronald Reagan

Can't get more 'Murrica than that!
 
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