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Considering the Bible covers much more Geography than Israel, I'd have to disagree. There were numerous groups of people that weren't considered God's chosen people. Any other country could have been chosen as God's holy land. But they werent. The rapture won't just land in Israel.

So what does the general Christian mean by protecting Isreal? As far as I see it I see it being protected by mass murder and oppression. By this I mean the Isreali and American government and other, not Christian and Jewish citizens

I mean it's in the Ten Commandments not to kill and Jesus said love thy neighbor. I love that concept but don't see it.

How do you want Isreal to be protected if you don't mind me asking?
 
And I'm not criticizing you guys, just trying to understand things. My opinion is irrelevant when it comes down to it, just want to understand and respect.
 
Trump is taking on the role of fascist more and more these days by barring journalists and several media outlets from his conferences. What a fair and unbiased man he is. Showing his true colors more and more. Maybe he's taking notes from his buddy Putin.
 
Trump is taking on the role of fascist more and more these days by barring journalists and several media outlets from his conferences. What a fair and unbiased man he is. Showing his true colors more and more. Maybe he's taking notes from his buddy Putin.

You mean taking cues from Obama. You haven't called him out for his obstruction to opposing journalists in the past.
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All of the signs of fascism are there for Trump, plain and simple to see:

First of all, there are the kinds of themes Trump uses. The use of ethnic stereotypes and exploitation of fear of foreigners is directly out of a fascist’s recipe book. “Making the country great again” sounds exactly like the fascist movements. Concern about national decline, that was one of the most prominent emotional states evoked in fascist discourse, and Trump is using that full-blast, quite illegitimately, because the country isn’t in serious decline, but he’s able to persuade them that it is. That is a fascist stroke. An aggressive foreign policy to arrest the supposed decline. That’s another one. Then, there’s a second level, which is a level of style and technique. He even looks like Mussolini in the way he sticks his lower jaw out, and also the bluster, the skill at sensing the mood of the crowd, the skillful use of media.

I read an absolutely astonishing account of Trump arriving for a political speech, somewhere out West I think, and his audience was gathered in an airplane hangar, and he landed his plane at the field and taxied up to the hangar and got out. That is exactly what they did in 1932 for Hitler’s first election victory. No one had ever seen a candidate arrive by plane before; it was absolutely dazzling, the impression given, the decisiveness of power, of authority, of modernity. I suppose it was accidental, but wow, that is an almost letter-perfect replay of a Hitler election tactic. And the capacity of Trump to enlist working-class voters against the left is exactly what Hitler and Mussolini were able to do. There are definitely echoes.
 
So what does the general Christian mean by protecting Isreal? As far as I see it I see it being protected by mass murder and oppression. By this I mean the Isreali and American government and other, not Christian and Jewish citizens

I mean it's in the Ten Commandments not to kill and Jesus said love thy neighbor. I love that concept but don't see it.

How do you want Isreal to be protected if you don't mind me asking?

Being an ally with the nation and people of Israel is a good start. Sure, the US claims we are still allies, but Obama has snubbed Isreal and Netanyahu on more than one occasion. Constantly degrading Israel's existence in the middle east to further the Muslim Palestinian state is a slap. Referring to Israeli territory as if it doesn't belong to them.

In the end it won't matter. Israel will stand alone when the war begins. The US nor anyone else will be at their side. And all nations will be defeated when that time comes.
 
Trump is taking on the role of fascist more and more these days by barring journalists and several media outlets from his conferences. What a fair and unbiased man he is. Showing his true colors more and more. Maybe he's taking notes from his buddy Putin.

After Obama had issued more subpoenas to more journalists than all the previous presidents combined using the "temporary" WWI 1917 espionage act, this is certainly an improvement.
 
You should stop reading huffpo and the daily Koz.

Actually, it was the leading historian on Fascism I quoted. Not huff post or any other media outlet. And he was also not drawing comparisons to Hitler, but more to Musolini, and stated there are definite echoes of fascism in play here, which I completely outlined and are undeniable. Got any more links up your sleeve, oh great linkmaster?
 
Why does everyone keep bringing up Obama when I'm talking about Trump? This isn't an Obama thread nor am I defending Obama... Strange, but carry on
 
Defending someone by mentioning the wrong doings of others is nothing but deflection, denial, and avoidance. Pretty $hitty debate tactics.
 
Nor am I defending Hillary. I'm saying very specific and undeniable things about Trump.
I feel like people have a bit of a hard time always immediately remembering that strongly criticizing one candidate and/or party doesn't inherently mean you support another. I can talk all day about how bad Clinton is, or how bad Trump is, or how bad Bush and Obama were, but that doesn't mean I support whoever they're running against at the time.

I heard a good summary for Trump vs Clinton:

Dangerously unpredictable vs predictably dangerous.
 
Defending someone by mentioning the wrong doings of others is nothing but deflection, denial, and avoidance. Pretty $hitty debate tactics.

I just meant we are transitioning into a better direction from this standpoint. You did yesterday say things are going to get a lot worse, it's kinda the same thing I'm doing.

I know your not a fan of Barry or Hitlery.
 
Why does everyone keep bringing up Obama when I'm talking about Trump? This isn't an Obama thread nor am I defending Obama... Strange, but carry on

Because you are accusing Trump of doing the same very things Obama has been doing. Yiu keep parroting the lib talking points about how dangwrous Trump will ne, and cite examples of things that Obama has been doing for years. What don't you understand?
 
I just meant we are transitioning into a better direction from this standpoint. You did yesterday say things are going to get a lot worse, it's kinda the same thing I'm doing.

I know your not a fan of Barry or Hitlery.

Mostly speaking to linkmaster Youngandfree(dumb)

But it's clear things are going in a much worse direction this election term.
 
Because you are accusing Trump of doing the same very things Obama has been doing. What don't you understand?

And right after you did that, I made a very concise post listing several specific things regarding Trump that support his echoes of fascism. What don't you understand.
 
Things are going to continue to get worse even after the election, no matter who wins. I stopped getting bent out of shape about why the Rinos didn't do what they promised after they got elected. Things are happening that no one can explain. They will continue to happen and will get worse. Our government is allowing things to happen that they shouldn't be. All nations will come against Israel, and I hope I'm not still here when it happens. You think things are bad now, wait till that goes down.
 
Actually, it was the leading historian on Fascism I quoted. Not huff post or any other media outlet. And he was also not drawing comparisons to Hitler, but more to Musolini, and stated there are definite echoes of fascism in play here, which I completely outlined and are undeniable. Got any more links up your sleeve, oh great linkmaster?

You quoted a lib hit piece from Slate, which isn't any different than the other 2 I named.
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Good try.
 
You leading expert tells Vox that Trump doesn't actually fit the definition of a fascist. So which is it?

What don't you understand, I didn't claim nor did this history expert claim he is a fascist. That's a very strong label. I claimed, and quoted, how several things about Trump echo fascism. I was very clear about this, and careful not to call him Hitler or a fascist. What don't you understand?
 
What don't you understand, I didn't claim nor did this history expert claim he is a fascist. That's a very strong label. I claimed, and quoted, how several things about Trump echo fascism. I was very clear about this, and careful not to call him Hitler or a fascist. What don't you understand?

You are still citing highly partisan liberal websites to back your claim or make your case. That's ****ty debate tactics you know.
 
Are you also going to call me a 'libtard' again youngandfree - even though I'm not registered with the Democratic Party nor am I a leftist? I'm a moderate centrist. But y'all only have one corporate monopolistic party here in the US. What don't you understand?
 
Wow ... when did this turn into a grade school level arguement ? Trumps gonna win just deal with it . Damn liberals move to mexico atleast u will be sanctified.
 
Mostly speaking to linkmaster Youngandfree(dumb)

But it's clear things are going in a much worse direction this election term.

I honestly cant say your right or wrong, this is how I truly feel. My hands are thrown up in the air wishing Dump at least sticks to some of the good things I agree with anti-nafta, his income tax plan, repealing obamacare etc....but dunno, dont trust him.
 
"I didn't call Trump a fascist, I just posted a quote from a liberal **** site that says Trump acts and looks like well known former fascists."



Putting words in my moderate centrist mouth :) I said the signs are there, and his policy and actions echo fascism. But I never said "Trump is a Fascist". I never said he's Hitler or Musolini. What don't you understand?

You going to continue this? How many more pages of you bitching about semantics do we have to deal with
 
Are you also going to call me a 'libtard' again youngandfree - even though I'm not registered with the Democratic Party nor am I a leftist? I'm a moderate centrist. But y'all only have one corporate monopolistic party here in the US. What don't you understand?

80% of your political posts either parrot liberal ideology or talking points. You can claim you are a centrist, but don't post much to back up that claim. Other than repeating I'm a centrist. But as I pointed out, you go to a lib website, and copy a paragraph out so you don't actually have to post the link and admit where you got it from. Deflecting my first call out about it by saying you quoted a leading historian, without providing context or link, proves my point.


'Murrrriiicccccaaaaaa!!!!!!!
 
Wow ... when did this turn into a grade school level arguement ? Trumps gonna win just deal with it . Damn liberals move to mexico atleast u will be sanctified.

They dont accept illegals there, will get deported, lol

I say send them to guantanamo bay for a lifetime stay!
 
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Tell us something new, lol

Been saying it for years, Obama w/ Hitlery created ISIS.

Not only that, but they have openly supported Al-queda....they just say the "moderate" ones, you know the ones that drive the UN trucks that were given to them with bazookas on their shoulders and they wave the peace sign like Woodstock hippies and show it on CNN.
 
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Speaking of Brietbart, do you know what happened to the creator of the website, Brietbart himself?

He was going to unveil a video about Obama that revealed his upbringings and the night before very late at night just hours before this tape was going to be released he dropped dead on the street.

I think they hit him with the CIA heart attack gun, or something more modern I dunno about.
 
It might've been MK Ultra?

No, this was a quiet assassination. MK-Ultra is designed to manipulate humans, classic cases such as murdering someone and then they just stay there and wait such as John Lennon's killer and the Colorado shooter who had a direct connection to MK-Ultra.

CIA heart attack gun shot a dart and the toxins caused a heart attack or cancer depending on what they want. Both the chemical and shot will be undetectable by the coroner.

Senator's Frank Church and John Tower bought this issue declassified to the public in 1975 and directly confronted the CIA. In this video they even have the gun on hand.

 
And please people, when speaking about negative aspects of Trump, don't go complaining that people are regurgitating "Liberal Media'. Where the heck else is anyone going to criticize him? Conservative media, his own party? Oh wait, over half of his own party hates him. But still, conservative media won't criticize their own nominee. Next.
 
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