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Unless someone is homeless and has absolutely nothing under their name (bank acct, bills, etc), not really. Well, I guess we’re assuming that they dont have a fake ID...

Also, for the record, I am generally for having to show a state or federally issues ID to vote. I just think we need to make sure that all legitimate US citizens have equal availability in obtaining them. Currently im not positive everyone does, but I’m also not sure that they dont either.
if a valid ID is NOT required what is to prevent a person voting more than once under different names?

all it takes is one fraudulent vote for a democrat to cancel out my vote, what about my right?
 
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So 1113 out of a voting population of 215,000,000 is 0.00005%.

If 1113 cases of voter fraud is rampant, the coronavirus killing 170,000 people must be astronomically unjustifiable to you. I'm glad we can agree on that!
if just one person casts a vote for opposing candidate then my vote is cancelled out...the old saying that every vote count losses it's credibility....the government has a responsibility to ensure doing everything possible in eliminating every fraudulent vote in their power
 
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own stock in amazon-eh?;)
Powerful companies have powerful buying power and powerful bargaining power. You either accept their offer of high flow for low profit or they go elsewhere.

If you as an individual tried that, they point you towards the exit.

Whether or not that is moral is another argument. Whether or not they should pay taxes is also another argument.

If you get rid of the govt post office? Private companies driven by profit fill the void. Be careful what you wish for
 
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He is very scared. He is being ordered by the courts to show evidence of substantial voter fraud (which we all know he wont and cannot do), and so instead of proving it legally, hes defunding the post to try negate the mail in voting system and undermine it.

He is as corrupt as it comes, and if it were Obama doing it, you guys would be out in the streets protesting. Peacefully of course, because if you starting rioting youd be hypocrites
Big words, yet again, from a liberal former New zealand cop....smh...

If only i cared enough about your country to go into a thread, and try to start fires all day...lol
 
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Powerful companies have powerful buying power and powerful bargaining power. You either accept their offer of high flow for low profit or they go elsewhere.

If you as an individual tried that, they point you towards the exit.

Whether or not that is moral is another argument. Whether or not they should pay taxes is also another argument.

If you get rid of the govt post office? Private companies driven by profit fill the void. Be careful what you wish for
tbh i was just being sarcastic and was making an attempt at humor.

do you remember a time when everyone drank water from the tap and would never dream of paying for bottled water?

wanna know why the tap water became so bad?

PRIVATIZATION
 
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if just one person casts a vote for opposing candidate then my vote is cancelled out...the old saying that every vote count losses it's credibility....the government has a responsibility to ensure doing everything possible in eliminating every fraudulent vote in their power
Of course. But you dont drastically change the rules the same year as election. You also mandate it into law, not be slimey and defund the post office so the mail isnt delivered in time.

That's scheming and dishonest. Dont like the system? Change it. This isnt changing it. You can still legally vote by post. He is trying to ensure those lawful votes cant be counted
 
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Big words, yet again, from a liberal former New zealand cop....smh...

If only i cared enough about your country to go into a thread, and try to start fires all day...lol
I dont see any counter argument, so that means you cant argue it. That means Trump is scared.
 
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tbh i was just being sarcastic and was making an attempt at humor.

do you remember a time when everyone drank water from the tap and would never dream of paying for bottled water?

wanna know why the tap water became so bad?

PRIVATIZATION
Water should never be privatized. Basic human necessity for life.

Nestle is trying to get in on that
 
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The high majority of homeless people gets social security. It was mandated years ago that the checks be direct deposited, therefore requiring an ID....hmmmm.
He asked if I thought someone could survive without an ID. My example of being able to do so was if you were homeless.

Wtf are you talking about? Not what I was.
 
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I dont see any counter argument, so that means you cant argue it. That means Trump is scared.
Wow....you have gone full blown troll. Take a step back bro...give yourself some time away.
 
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Wow....you have gone full blown troll. Take a step back bro...give yourself some time away.
I'm just waiting for Trump to get out on the balcony and conduct a Nuremburg-esque type address
 
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Of course. But you dont drastically change the rules the same year as election. You also mandate it into law, not be slimey and defund the post office so the mail isnt delivered in time.

That's scheming and dishonest. Dont like the system? Change it. This isnt changing it. You can still legally vote by post. He is trying to ensure those lawful votes cant be counted
lol...you are arguing the other side of the coin-democrats are pushing for mail in ballots that has never been done before.

as far as i know no law has been enacted to support mail in ballots?
 
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This would be the appropriate time for BigT to ask him if he’s hitting the sauce like he used to do with Aleksander.
 
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Water should never be privatized. Basic human necessity for life.

Nestle is trying to get in on that
i agree 100%...i am normally not in favor of government running things, but water was something the gov did well-turning it over to private business has proved to be boneheaded.
 
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This would be the appropriate time for BigT to ask him if he’s hitting the sauce like he used to do with Aleksander.
lol...no sauce, but i did use phenibut yesterday!!!
 
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'costs from weeks of protests take financial toll on cash-strapped cities across US'

wow just saw this article and was amazed at the cost of the protests, riots, and looting. i can see why schumer and pelosi are insisting on bailouts in stimulant package-majority of the damage is in major democrat controlled cities.
 
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Wow....you have gone full blown troll. Take a step back bro...give yourself some time away.
This isnt the first time Trump has tried this.

Trump continually fans the flames of Democratic takeover while being stylized as a national saviour. He is also actively blocking voters under the guise of doing what is best for the people and protecting them.

Oh wait, sorry I was reading an exert on how Hitler came into power
 
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I'm guessing you medically retired from stress??? Sheesh....relax...
 
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lol...you are arguing the other side of the coin-democrats are pushing for mail in ballots that has never been done before.

as far as i know no law has been enacted to support mail in ballots?
Laws generally exclude things, not include them. As 29 states allow mail in voting without a specific reason, without a law excluding that, it is lawful. Denying that is denying someone the ability to cast their lawful vote.

Maybe after the election they can all sit down and decide if it is right or just. But do it the right way. Preventing votes from being counted is verging on dictatorial
 
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This isnt the first time Trump has tried this.

Trump continually fans the flames of Democratic takeover while being stylized as a national saviour. He is also actively blocking voters under the guise of doing what is best for the people and protecting them.

Oh wait, sorry I was reading an exert on how Hitler came into power
one of the 1st things hitler did was attempt to take away guns.....just sayin
 
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Laws generally exclude things, not include them. As 29 states allow mail in voting without a specific reason, without a law excluding that, it is lawful. Denying that is denying someone the ability to cast their lawful vote.

Maybe after the election they can all sit down and decide if it is right or just. But do it the right way. Preventing votes from being counted is verging on dictatorial
then those 29 states should proceed, but like you said it aint right to change things this close to election.

no one is saying that anyone not be permitted to vote-just go to the polls like i have always done except for time in military-which i consider valid since i was out of the country for most presidential elections.
 
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Drain the swamp, and replace it with sludge
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then those 29 states should proceed, but like you said it aint right to change things this close to election.

no one is saying that anyone not be permitted to vote-just go to the polls like i have always done except for time in military-which i consider valid since i was out of the country for most presidential elections.
Fair enough. I dont know what the other states rules are, but if they require a valid excuse, then they should need a valid excuse. Due process for all
 
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so, you gonna lump all trump supporters in same boat?
Not at all!

It was more in reference to the earlier discussion ITT, I just happened to come across this which was literally the same argument I had lol
 
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Big words, yet again, from a liberal former New zealand cop....smh...

If only i cared enough about your country to go into a thread, and try to start fires all day...lol
Big words? Do you mean substantial? Negate? Undermine? Dude those are words I learned in like sixth grade...
 
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Let me guess, a defense attorney?
Some of the biggest Trump supporters in my home town are former US Attorneys/prosecutors turned criminal defense attorney. Surely you can’t mean civil defense attorney lol. I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make here?
 
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wow-i just took a look at the new Grand Egyptian Museum in cairo....i visited egypt in 79 and saw the pyramids sphinx and monuments surrounding them, totally awesome to see the pyramids in person-pictures and television do not begin to show how massive they are...i have just updated my bucket list to include taking my wife, children, grandkids to egypt to see the fantastic historical sites egypt has to offer....the new museum looks truly awesome, and admission is only $25.
 
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Fair enough. I dont know what the other states rules are, but if they require a valid excuse, then they should need a valid excuse. Due process for all
this is how i see it also!!!
 
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wow-i just took a look at the new Grand Egyptian Museum in cairo....i visited egypt in 79 and saw the pyramids sphinx and monuments surrounding them, totally awesome to see the pyramids in person-pictures and television do not begin to show how massive they are...i have just updated my bucket list to include taking my wife, children, grandkids to egypt to see the fantastic historical sites egypt has to offer....the new museum looks truly awesome, and admission is only $25.
My boss went to Egypt last year and had similar stories about the size and being unable to truly capture their marvel with a camera
 
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Some of the biggest Trump supporters in my home town are former US Attorneys/prosecutors turned criminal defense attorney. Surely you can’t mean civil defense attorney lol. I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make here?
That typically defense attorneys are scum bags....lol
 
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That typically defense attorneys are scum bags....lol
Because they uphold the constitutional rights of their clients? I guess the constitution doesn’t matter if you’re accused of a crime. Of course, I highly doubt you have any understanding of how getting indicted for a crime truly works or how rigged the system truly is against the accused.
 
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Because they uphold the constitutional rights of their clients? I guess the constitution doesn’t matter if you’re accused of a crime. Of course, I highly doubt you have any understanding of how getting indicted for a crime truly works or how rigged the system truly is against the accused.
Exactly...i have zero understanding of the system....lol
 
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Its not a generalization if his experiences make it true. Because he knows everyone with no ID, from every county in every state. In every town, village and city, he knows them all. And anyone without an ID is a crook.

Lol
Interestingly enough it appears New Zealand requires an ID in order to register to vote and according to the website you need to bro g along your voter ID in order to vote. Racist bastards you guys are over there. Punishing the poor little kiwis that can’t afford to get an ID.
 
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That typically defense attorneys are scum bags....lol
Ah, there it is.

Defense attorney: keeps prosecutors accountable and upholds clients rights.

Manifesto: You scumbag.
 
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Interestingly enough it appears New Zealand requires an ID in order to register to vote and according to the website you need to bro g along your voter ID in order to vote. Racist bastards you guys are over there. Punishing the poor little kiwis that can’t afford to get an ID.
You dont need an ID. You register to vote, they mail you a card, you take the card in to vote. Done.

You can register for other voting options if going in doesnt work
 
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My boss went to Egypt last year and had similar stories about the size and being unable to truly capture their marvel with a camera
exactly my experience...if you haven't saw them in person, you haven't saw them.... the museum looks awesome-should be opening soon!!!
 
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You dont need an ID. You register to vote, they mail you a card, you take the card in to vote. Done.

You can register for other voting options if going in doesnt work

Unless my reading comprehension is off...

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