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I agree!!! trump should stop beating this dead horse.

quite a few republicans are letting him know he needs to get his shyt together.

Yeah, but like most Democrats, they're all talk. Even some of the bigger name people that publicly getting into battles with Trump end up voting with him. The same thing happens with any President, except it's worse now because of things like twitter. They talk and talk, but when it comes time for action, they tend to crumble. I think the near future may be different though because of what is happening with the fallout over the Syria withdrawal. This may turn into something quite messy for all of us.
 
Yeah, but like most Democrats, they're all talk. Even some of the bigger name people that publicly getting into battles with Trump end up voting with him. The same thing happens with any President, except it's worse now because of things like twitter. They talk and talk, but when it comes time for action, they tend to crumble. I think the near future may be different though because of what is happening with the fallout over the Syria withdrawal. This may turn into something quite messy for all of us.

politicians are going to politic that's what they do...I am talking about trumps base of voting republicans, many are not happy with the direction he seems to be taking lately. if he doesn't get it together and stop going rogue his base is going to get itchy feet, imo.


I criticized Obama for pulling out of Iraq, now trump pulls the same crap--not very happy and many other vets I talk with are also not happy!!! if trump loses vets he is done!!!
 
then you just say you can have this if I get this,,,after all it's not their money.

If there were any adults in the room, that would happen. However they're a bunch of infants and people don't seem to mind having their money pissed away on things that don't benefit them as long as their "side" gets the best twitter jab in. Trump, McConnell, Schumer, and Pelosi. None of those people have anything to lose by running this into the ground. They can't handle the most basic business practice of setting a budget they can stick to and that certainly didn't start in Trump's administration.
 
It was always obviously a lie and I can forgive stupid crap they say during debates, but he has repeated it since entering office. He changed it a little bit to claim that Mexico would pay indirectly through the USMCA, but even that isn't true. My only point on this is that if Trump is supposed to be different and not a politician as the Republicans and supporters still claim, then why don't they hold him to a higher standard than the rest of the lying POS?

The Prophet was right!



 
politicians are going to politic that's what they do...I am talking about trumps base of voting republicans, many are not happy with the direction he seems to be taking lately. if he doesn't get it together and stop going rogue his base is going to get itchy feet, imo.


I criticized Obama for pulling out of Iraq, now trump pulls the same crap--not very happy and many other vets I talk with are also not happy!!! if trump loses vets he is done!!!

Obama never pulled out of Iraq, thats like some rapist jerk telling a woman he will pull out and makes a cream pie. Dump did somewhat have a platform of getting out of there.

If Dump really and genuinely for pulling out of Syria thats probably the best positive accomplishment of his entire presidency. The only way he can top that is by bringing 100% of all our troops home, this country is 20 trillion+ broke and its time to make America Great Again. And besides, the money we can save from all these nonesense wars over oil,, black market opium and many other resources we can use to re-modernize and future proof our military and even help homeless vets get shelter and health care.
 
politicians are going to politic that's what they do...I am talking about trumps base of voting republicans, many are not happy with the direction he seems to be taking lately. if he doesn't get it together and stop going rogue his base is going to get itchy feet, imo.


I criticized Obama for pulling out of Iraq, now trump pulls the same crap--not very happy and many other vets I talk with are also not happy!!! if trump loses vets he is done!!!

He never deserved the vets loyalty in the first place. Forget the wall, pay our vets!

Veterans Affairs Dept says it won't reimburse vets who were underpaid GI Bill benefit payments: report
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He never deserved the vets loyalty in the first place. Forget the wall, pay our vets!

Veterans Affairs Dept says it won't reimburse vets who were underpaid GI Bill benefit payments: report
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I agree with you...but it's not like the democrats have a good track record with vets either.


on the other hand trump campaigned on doing good for vets.....just sayin.
 
If there were any adults in the room, that would happen. However they're a bunch of infants and people don't seem to mind having their money pissed away on things that don't benefit them as long as their "side" gets the best twitter jab in. Trump, McConnell, Schumer, and Pelosi. None of those people have anything to lose by running this into the ground. They can't handle the most basic business practice of setting a budget they can stick to and that certainly didn't start in Trump's administration.

sad but true...
 
I agree with you...but it's not like the democrats have a good track record with vets either.


on the other hand trump campaigned on doing good for vets.....just sayin.

He's worse than doing nothing, he promised everything and did nothing. I hope it changes for the better.
Younger blood in D.C. We shall see. I'll hold them accountable with my vote, and I know you will too.
 
He never deserved the vets loyalty in the first place. Forget the wall, pay our vets!

Veterans Affairs Dept says it won't reimburse vets who were underpaid GI Bill benefit payments: report
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The VA said that report was misleading and that they would be reimbursing vets.

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I agree with you...but it's not like the democrats have a good track record with vets either.


on the other hand trump campaigned on doing good for vets.....just sayin.
Both parties just use us as a political "trump card" whenever the other party is in charge.

"Oh we can't have that thing you guys want because we need to use that money to take care of our vets" - Minority party

*Government power switches parties*

"We need billions for all of this stuff we want and can't afford more for the vets like we were just complaining about" - new Majority party.
 
Democrats have complained for years that were fighting wars on too many fronts. Too much money spent. Too many american’s in harms way. It’s not our problem, etc.

Trump pulls us out of one such conflict, and the liberal media roasts him for it.

Hypocritical much?
 
Democrats have complained for years that were fighting wars on too many fronts. Too much money spent. Too many american’s in harms way. It’s not our problem, etc.

Trump pulls us out of one such conflict, and the liberal media roasts him for it.

Hypocritical much?

No, Democrats begged for and expanded wars during Obama for the full 8 years. They are all invested into the Military Indusrial Complex and serve the same group of hooligans running the joint behind the scenes.

It’s just a public puppet show, they mostly all want the same policies just take turns deceiving the public that they have a choice.
 
No, Democrats begged for and expanded wars during Obama for the full 8 years. They are all invested into the Military Indusrial Complex and serve the same group of hooligans running the joint behind the scenes.

It’s just a public puppet show, they mostly all want the same policies just take turns deceiving the public that they have a choice.

Democrats preferred to pay adversaries to behave rather than pay the military to handle it. Kinda how Obama paid whoever it was $1.8 billion(with a B) in cash delivered on pallets and in barrels.
 
Democrats preferred to pay adversaries to behave rather than pay the military to handle it. Kinda how Obama paid whoever it was $1.8 billion(with a B) in cash delivered on pallets and in barrels.

Thats a nothinburger, and it was Iranian money stolen from them to begin with. Whats worse during the Obama era are the billions more spent arming terrorists to overthrow multiple governments across the middle east which created the foundation of ISIS, which then they armed Al-queda (ya know the guys who supposedly took the WTC down) to fight ISIS and cause more crisis....but....so they say they were "moderate Al-quest" ROFLLLLLL so they moderately want to destroy the USA so lets arm and train them.

Republicans are guilty of this as well, they all ride and belong to the same ship. Remember, it was Carter who created the foundation of Al-queda and Osama-bin laden and Reagan inherited and propped them up to new heights to overthrow the reds out of poppy-land for example.

Pentagon's, banksters, military industrial complex's..etc.... National Security Policies at its finest. Trillions spent, the USA broke and nothing came from it other than mass slaughter and some elite globalists piling their banks.
 
Democrats have complained for years that were fighting wars on too many fronts. Too much money spent. Too many american’s in harms way. It’s not our problem, etc.

Trump pulls us out of one such conflict, and the liberal media roasts him for it.

Hypocritical much?

Trump ran on a platform of defeating ISIS and working with military leaders. He's now pulling his usual arrogant routine with those military leaders. I'm sure there are a lot of people--liberal or otherwise--that are quite happy that he's pulling troops out. As for the "liberal media," that's not true as even his buddy Kilmeade of Fox and Friends spoke out about it directly to Sarah Sanders and pointed out that Trump is doing exactly what he accused Obama of doing.
 
Democrats preferred to pay adversaries to behave rather than pay the military to handle it. Kinda how Obama paid whoever it was $1.8 billion(with a B) in cash delivered on pallets and in barrels.

lmao so you're saying there was no military action under Clinton and Obama? And I love how this lie now includes barrels. Did Obama show up on a pirate ship personally to deliver this? Was it all in gold coins? I mean if we're going to make up history, go all out!
 
hey guys, a little early but want to make sure I get this out there....






MERRY CHRISTMAS
 
lmao so you're saying there was no military action under Clinton and Obama? And I love how this lie now includes barrels. Did Obama show up on a pirate ship personally to deliver this? Was it all in gold coins? I mean if we're going to make up history, go all out!

Exactly which part is a lie? Are you seriously going to tell me Obama didn’t pay Iran? It happened. It’s a fact.
 
TRUMP just 'fired' Mattis..
Somebody must have explained General Mattis' resignation letter to the orange buffoon.
If you are or were a Marine, your blood should be (quietly) boiling right about now.
 
TRUMP just 'fired' Mattis..
Somebody must have explained General Mattis' resignation letter to the orange buffoon.
If you are or were a Marine, your blood should be (quietly) boiling right about now.

He probably did it to embarrass him. Im not a Dump fan, but I can see why he did that.
 
hey guys, a little early but want to make sure I get this out there....






MERRY CHRISTMAS

Merry Christmas even though Trump's store has "Happy Holidays" on their "Holiday Gift Guide" lol. Merry Christmas and hope you and your family have a fun, relaxing, and safe one!
 
Merry Christmas even though Trump's store has "Happy Holidays" on their "Holiday Gift Guide" lol. Merry Christmas and hope you and your family have a fun, relaxing, and safe one!

back at you....hopefully Christmas will be fun and safe, but doubtful on the relaxing with all 4 grandkids together at once, lol....couldn't be happier we were able to pull this off, my 87 year old mom is even going to be there!!!
 
back at you....hopefully Christmas will be fun and safe, but doubtful on the relaxing with all 4 grandkids together at once, lol....couldn't be happier we were able to pull this off, my 87 year old mom is even going to be there!!!

That's really awesome. Congrats on the good genetics!
 
the daughter of the doctor who gave birth to barrack Obama [the doctor has been dead for 10 years] says her father told her that Obama was born in Kenya....


ok, so I made it up....anyone see the story the times posted about the anti-trump democrat daughter of trumps 10 years dead doctor saying her father told her he fabricated bone spurs as a favor to trumps dad...by the way, no evidence exists to back up this story.


nice reporting ny times, lol.

tbh, I think trump was looking for a way out of Vietnam...but to print that story with no evidence is just wrong--it's not that they can't find enough dirt on trump without making stuff up!!!
 
the daughter of the doctor who gave birth to barrack Obama [the doctor has been dead for 10 years] says her father told her that Obama was born in Kenya....


ok, so I made it up....anyone see the story the times posted about the anti-trump democrat daughter of trumps 10 years dead doctor saying her father told her he fabricated bone spurs as a favor to trumps dad...by the way, no evidence exists to back up this story.


nice reporting ny times, lol.

tbh, I think trump was looking for a way out of Vietnam...but to print that story with no evidence is just wrong--it's not that they can't find enough dirt on trump without making stuff up!!!

Congrats to the dead doc's daughter for letting the world know that her father was an unethical POS!
 
Congrats to the dead doc's daughter for letting the world know that her father was an unethical POS!

That and it's quite probable as her father rented his office space from Fred Trump. That was convenient for Donnie boy who, when pressed couldn't remember which foot his bone spurs were in... lol. I get it, it was a long time ago. I'm sure most people don't remember what foot they had bone spurs in, in order to get out of going to Vietnam.
 
That and it's quite probable as her father rented his office space from Fred Trump. That was convenient for Donnie boy who, when pressed couldn't remember which foot his bone spurs were in... lol. I get it, it was a long time ago. I'm sure most people don't remember what foot they had bone spurs in, in order to get out of going to Vietnam.

Is there really anybody that doubts it was a bs excuse to get out of serving? Rich kids didn't go unless they absolutely wanted to. Even poor kids were able to get out of it, but it usually required a good friend with a baseball bat rather than a rich dad. Honestly, I would have done the same because I think the draft is completely insane and anybody who serves, should do so by choice in my opinion.
 
Is there really anybody that doubts it was a bs excuse to get out of serving? Rich kids didn't go unless they absolutely wanted to. Even poor kids were able to get out of it, but it usually required a good friend with a baseball bat rather than a rich dad. Honestly, I would have done the same because I think the draft is completely insane and anybody who serves, should do so by choice in my opinion.

5x he dodged.
He was in ROTC? Right?

It's one thing to be a conciencious objector and honest about it, but to live such a hypocritical lie is digusting. He plays the hero, but he's a coward, and I expect far more from a "President". So, let's not equate any regular joe who has no idea about being some hero, though I signed up for the selective services, I do see the point in having a volunteer armed forces.
 
5x he dodged.
He was in ROTC? Right?

It's one thing to be a conciencious objector and honest about it, but to live such a hypocritical lie is digusting. He plays the hero, but he's a coward, and I expect far more from a "President". So, let's not equate any regular joe who has no idea about being some hero, though I signed up for the selective services, I do see the point in having a volunteer armed forces.

He looked like such a phony ass with that army looking jacket, I couldnt believe what I was seeing.

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5x he dodged.
He was in ROTC? Right?

It's one thing to be a conciencious objector and honest about it, but to live such a hypocritical lie is digusting. He plays the hero, but he's a coward, and I expect far more from a "President". So, let's not equate any regular joe who has no idea about being some hero, though I signed up for the selective services, I do see the point in having a volunteer armed forces.
4x were temporary student deferments while in college. Literally every person in college at that time would have done that. The only dodge was the doctor's letter; this was also very common during that time.

He was not in ROTC at any time, as far as I know.

FWIW, my dad served in Vietnam (volunteered in '58) and my uncle was drafted (but later discharged for his flat feet before completing BCT), so I don't much care for dodgers, but I also won't pretend what Trump did was anything worse than what a huge number of Americans were doing (or trying to do) at that time. Hell, Bill Clinton is arguably a worse offender here and Joe Biden's draft situation is nearly identical to Trump's except with phantom asthma instead of phantom heel spurs.
 
4x were temporary student deferments while in college. Literally every person in college at that time would have done that. The only dodge was the doctor's letter; this was also very common during that time.

He was not in ROTC at any time, as far as I know.

FWIW, my dad served in Vietnam (volunteered in '58) and my uncle was drafted (but later discharged for his flat feet before completing BCT), so I don't much care for dodgers, but I also won't pretend what Trump did was anything worse than what a huge number of Americans were doing (or trying to do) at that time. Hell, Bill Clinton is arguably a worse offender here and Joe Biden's draft situation is nearly identical to Trump's except with phantom asthma instead of phantom heel spurs.

Let's just talk about Trump, but you're right. Screw clinton. He's another one I'd rather not get into, but he was Impeached for lying... every time he bit his lip he was. Every time Trump opens his mouth he's either shoving some food in it; lying; or embelleshing like some used car salesmen.

Here, he went to Military School. That was it, as I couldnt' remember. What a good little soldier. /s

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LIke I said. He is a living hypocrit and a scumbag for posing as a strong military leader 'knowing more than his generals'.
This man is easily 10x worse than Clinton.

I take this and all his other shortcomings seriously.

- My Father (Korea) died 4 years ago
- My Cousin died (Active duty) last year
- My Uncle, just died 5 days ago (WWII)

Sure, they volunteered, and so should any potential leader. Especially the President.
If you can't serve, you can't lead. That's my thinking because those who've served use war as a last resort.
 
Sure, they volunteered, and so should any potential leader. Especially the President.
If you can't serve, you can't lead. That's my thinking because those who've served use war as a last resort.

Then that would have to go for every single person in Congress since they are the only ones allowed to declare war. We dont declare wars anymore and Presidents go to war at their own free will for the most part but Im going off topic here, lol.

Now, historically some politicians who served are very trigger and bomb happy, such as the case of John McCain for a clear example and many others who served who voted for invading more than several other countries.

We do have evidence that serving in the forces isnt excactly an indicator that one would go to war as a last resort and clearly the opposite.

Anyways I respect all our service members 100%, but when it comes to politics thats just another animal.

By the way, my least disliked Presidents (I dont have a favorite list, lol) happen to be both Washington and Dwight D. Eisenhower who both served and are both war heroes.
 
Then that would have to go for every single person in Congress since they are the only ones allowed to declare war. We dont declare wars anymore and Presidents go to war at their own free will for the most part but Im going off topic here, lol.

Now, historically some politicians who served are very trigger and bomb happy, such as the case of John McCain for a clear example and many others who served who voted for invading more than several other countries.

We do have evidence that serving in the forces isnt excactly an indicator that one would go to war as a last resort and clearly the opposite.

Anyways I respect all our service members 100%, but when it comes to politics thats just another animal.

By the way, my least disliked Presidents (I dont have a favorite list, lol) happen to be both Washington and Dwight D. Eisenhower who both served and are both war heroes.

Let's not fly off track too much. Trump is not only a hypocrit; a liar; scumbag sexual predator; he's also a racist POS who only knows revenge and making sure not only he wins but someone loses and is hurt in the process. Look at his entire life of priveledge and racism. He surrounds himself with thugs and criminals like himself. Let's not forget what's really important.

We have a 'leader' of our country whom has no morals; ethcis, or empathy, and he's a coward on top of it. The entire coward portion is the tip of the iceberg.
 
Let's not fly off track too much. Trump is not only a hypocrit; a liar; scumbag sexual predator; he's also a racist POS who only knows revenge and making sure not only he wins but someone loses and is hurt in the process. Look at his entire life of priveledge and racism. He surrounds himself with thugs and criminals like himself. Let's not forget what's really important.

We have a 'leader' of our country whom has no morals; ethcis, or empathy, and he's a coward on top of it. The entire coward portion is the tip of the iceberg.

Wow, my post wasnt meant to defend Dump...not that I agree with every accusation above.

Just wondering who in your opinion "was" or "is" a great leader? If any, lol.
 
Wow, my post wasnt meant to defend Dump...not that I agree with every accusation above.

Just wondering who in your opinion "was" or "is" a great leader? If any, lol.

I didn't think you defending him, rather an invitation to place a pin firmly into this small point on a very large map.

Haha. Every leader has done something good, even Nixon created the EPA.. though that POS extended the War in Vietnam to be reelected. You have to take the good with the bad, but this idiot has no good. I'm open to suggestions though. lol.

Edit: He's also banned from running any charities, ever, due to his fraudulent use of his own...
 
I didn't think you defending him, rather an invitation to place a pin firmly into this small point on a very large map.

Haha. Every leader has done something good, even Nixon created the EPA.. though that POS extended the War in Vietnam to be reelected. You have to take the good with the bad, but this idiot has no good. I'm open to suggestions though. lol.

Edit: He's also banned from running any charities, ever, due to his fraudulent use of his own...

Next they need to ban the Clinton Foundation and send both of them to Gitmo!
 
Let's just talk about Trump, but you're right. Screw clinton. He's another one I'd rather not get into, but he was Impeached for lying... every time he bit his lip he was. Every time Trump opens his mouth he's either shoving some food in it; lying; or embelleshing like some used car salesmen.

Here, he went to Military School. That was it, as I couldnt' remember. What a good little soldier. /s

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LIke I said. He is a living hypocrit and a scumbag for posing as a strong military leader 'knowing more than his generals'.
This man is easily 10x worse than Clinton.

I take this and all his other shortcomings seriously.

- My Father (Korea) died 4 years ago
- My Cousin died (Active duty) last year
- My Uncle, just died 5 days ago (WWII)

Sure, they volunteered, and so should any potential leader. Especially the President.
If you can't serve, you can't lead. That's my thinking because those who've served use war as a last resort.
It was just a private high school his father enrolled him in. There is no obligation for military service, unlike ROTC.

I agree. I am of the opinion that the Commander-in-Chief should have at least some military experience. If you are going to command the Armed Forces, I think you should have some idea of how your orders are going to affect those troops on the ground.

However, if that were the case, then we would not have had FDR, Wilson, Obama, Clinton, etc. in office either, and I can't recall seeing a whole lot of this type of criticism for any of those men.
 
However, if that were the case, then we would not have had FDR, Wilson, Obama, Clinton, etc. in office either, and I can't recall seeing a whole lot of this type of criticism for any of those men.

Huh? You mean school texbooks, or for real?
 
Huh? You mean school texbooks or for real?
I meant from regular citizens, but I suppose both would be true.

To clarify, I'm not saying that no person ever criticized them for not serving in the military; I'm simply saying that people seem to criticize Trump much more vehemently for it than they do for those other Presidents. Further still, it seems that *most* of the criticism has nothing to do with his actual actions (avoiding the draft), and has much more to do with his political party, since most who criticize Trump for not serving don't levy criticism towards Clinton for dodging or Obama for not volunteering.
 
I meant from regular citizens, but I suppose both would be true.

To clarify, I'm not saying that no person ever criticized them for not serving in the military; I'm simply saying that people seem to criticize Trump much more vehemently for it than they do for those other Presidents. Further still, it seems that *most* of the criticism has nothing to do with his actual actions (avoiding the draft), and has much more to do with his political party, since most who criticize Trump for not serving don't levy criticism towards Clinton for dodging or Obama for not volunteering.

I get what your saying 100% :) There is alot of hypocrisy depending on who is calling the shots and support/opposition on them.
 
4x were temporary student deferments while in college. Literally every person in college at that time would have done that. The only dodge was the doctor's letter; this was also very common during that time.

He was not in ROTC at any time, as far as I know.

FWIW, my dad served in Vietnam (volunteered in '58) and my uncle was drafted (but later discharged for his flat feet before completing BCT), so I don't much care for dodgers, but I also won't pretend what Trump did was anything worse than what a huge number of Americans were doing (or trying to do) at that time. Hell, Bill Clinton is arguably a worse offender here and Joe Biden's draft situation is nearly identical to Trump's except with phantom asthma instead of phantom heel spurs.

homosexuality was a out...I've heard stories of guys having pictures taken of sucking dick to get out of going to nam….my how times have changed!!!
 
homosexuality was a out...I've heard stories of guys having pictures taken of sucking dick to get out of going to nam….my how times have changed!!!

Oh wow....Ill take a chance getting shot at crossing into Canada, plan B no thanks! lol
 
Oh wow....Ill take a chance getting shot at crossing into Canada, plan B no thanks! lol

nam was 1st war you could watch on tv while eating dinner...seeing guys jumping out of a helicopter and getting ambushed was a lot of motivation for some....most of those guys were in college-what they called 'fortunate sons' guys like clinton and trump-my money says obama would have been hiding out also if he were old enough.

listen to the black sabbath song war pigs...or credence clearwater fortunate son...
 
homosexuality was a out...I've heard stories of guys having pictures taken of sucking dick to get out of going to nam….my how times have changed!!!
My lord. That is a unique and disgusting way of dodging I suppose. ??
 
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