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Donald Trump running for president

youngandfree said:
Hell no since he's already done more than Obama did when he won his. No way they will give it to him. They only give it to do nothings.
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People will beleive whatever they want to believe but 68 years of open "war" ending yesterday was something special no matter how it happened. Washington post article states South Korean leader credits Trump so that's got to say something.

All bull**** aside Kim had to know it would be his best move in any case. That country has been so shutoff for so long. Could you imagine North Korea now being a country open to tourism? Never thought that would be a thing.
 
LiveToLift said:
People will beleive whatever they want to believe but 68 years of open "war" ending yesterday was something special no matter how it happened. Washington post article states South Korean leader credits Trump so that's got to say something.

All bull**** aside Kim had to know it would be his best move in any case. That country has been so shutoff for so long. Could you imagine North Korea now being a country open to tourism? Never thought that would be a thing.
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I'm remaining extremely skeptical not because of Trump, but because of Kim. I'm curious what Kim was offered by Pompeo and also how the collapse of their testing site plays into this sydden decision to stop nuclear testing. Hopefully it equals peace, but there are a whole lot of odd things surrounding this.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I'm remaining extremely skeptical not because of Trump, but because of Kim. I'm curious what Kim was offered by Pompeo and also how the collapse of their testing site plays into this sydden decision to stop nuclear testing. Hopefully it equals peace, but there are a whole lot of odd things surrounding this.
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Im more than with you on that brother. Seems highly suspect. But who knows Trump is president so it would seem just about anything is possible at this point.
 
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So Iran has still been secretly developing nukes after Obama laundered $1.8 Billion and flew it to Iran on pallets. Iran said they would stop nuclear development in the deal.

No **** they lied. So did Obama.
 
youngandfree said:
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So Iran has still been secretly developing nukes after Obama laundered $1.8 Billion and flew it to Iran on pallets. Iran said they would stop nuclear development in the deal.

No **** they lied. So did Obama.
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I'll take Iran's word over Netanyahu any day. We've discussed this issue before. Obama didn't launder that money. It was due to Iran because of an old ass arms deal. It had nothing to do with the nuclear deal. Obama did so much messed up crap that I don't understand the need to make crap up. That does nothing except ruin your own credibility. Following Ben Shapiro doesn't help either.

All that aside, why exactly shouldn't Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons if we are? Why shouldn't any country be allowed to have nuclear weapons if we are?
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I'll take Iran's word over Netanyahu any day. We've discussed this issue before. Obama didn't launder that money. It was due to Iran because of an old ass arms deal. It had nothing to do with the nuclear deal. Obama did so much messed up crap that I don't understand the need to make crap up. That does nothing except ruin your own credibility. Following Ben Shapiro doesn't help either.

All that aside, why exactly shouldn't Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons if we are? Why shouldn't any country be allowed to have nuclear weapons if we are?
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Because they signed a contract saying that wouldn't? So you're saying Ben Shapiro made this up?
 
youngandfree said:
Because they signed a contract saying that wouldn't? So you're saying Ben Shapiro made this up?
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Ben Shapiro is saying that Netanyahu is claiming something without any evidence. I don't dispute that, no. Ben Shapiro believes him on his word and you apparently believe Ben Shapiro on his word about Netanyahu's word. I don't believe any of the above until I see proof or Netayahu stops crying wolf and provides the appropriate authorities with evidence.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Ben Shapiro is saying that Netanyahu is claiming something without any evidence. I don't dispute that, no. Ben Shapiro believes him on his word and you apparently believe Ben Shapiro on his word about Netanyahu's word. I don't believe any of the above until I see proof or Netayahu stops crying wolf and provides the appropriate authorities with evidence.
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There is evidence Netayahu has nukes, he should start by bombing his own crap.
 
youngandfree said:
Because they signed a contract saying that wouldn't? So you're saying Ben Shapiro made this up?
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They signed a deal with a government that has no personal credibility when it comes to contracts. Ask Saddam, Gaddaffi and KimJong-BigBums daddy.
 
CJNator said:
A lot of fun still going on in here lol.
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Ok so once you were a libertarian and morphed into an anarchist, then you disappear and come back and you were all about god, then you went to another hiatus and you came back as a extreme anti-human nazi-facist-genocidalist.

What version of CJNator do we have this time? Let me guess, are a direct disciple of Vermin Supreme?
 
youngandfree said:
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It wouldn't be the first time Israel got secret information on a nuclear site that "didn't exist."
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Yes, that "suspected" "under construction" site did indeed exist. That also wouldn't be the first time Israel attacked the wrong target, like when they attacked the USS Liberty. At least that was their excuse for attacking us for over an hour and the NSA continues to keep details classified about the incident.
 
ax1 said:
Ok so once you were a libertarian and morphed into an anarchist, then you disappear and come back and you were all about god, then you went to another hiatus and you came back as a extreme anti-human nazi-facist-genocidalist.

What version of CJNator do we have this time? Let me guess, are a direct disciple of Vermin Supreme?
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My money is on Methodist Quaker Transhumanist
 
RROOOOFFFLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Learn from history, these ses-pool laden inhuman government hooligans have no credibility.

2002 Israeli PM Netanfuqu the U.S. To attack Iraq

"No question what so ever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards developing nuclear weapons;...no question whatsover" and he says the dangers were known 2 decades before, RROOOOFFFFLLLL!!!!!!!!!!

 
ax1 said:
RROOOOFFFLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Learn from history, these ses-pool laden inhuman government hooligans have no credibility.
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Next thing you're going to tell me is that the leaders of North and South Korea have already had meetings lol (psst...it was in 2000 and 2007...this isn't new)
 
youngandfree said:
Kim Jong Un didn't meet with anyone back then.
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Actually your completely far off. A while back I managed to extract this leaked image out of Wikileaks showing top floor penthouse at Dump hotel back in '07. I always wondered what the get together was about, what was said and if anything was to be arranged in the future?

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Aleksandar37 said:
I'll take Iran's word over Netanyahu any day. We've discussed this issue before. Obama didn't launder that money. It was due to Iran because of an old ass arms deal. It had nothing to do with the nuclear deal. Obama did so much messed up crap that I don't understand the need to make crap up. That does nothing except ruin your own credibility. Following Ben Shapiro doesn't help either.

All that aside, why exactly shouldn't Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons if we are? Why shouldn't any country be allowed to have nuclear weapons if we are?
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I Havnt seen Shapiro loose a debate.
Have you?
 
Cgkone said:
I Havnt seen Shapiro loose a debate.
Have you?
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Not at all relevant to the conversation, but has he ever been in an actual debate that isn't this theater crap the alt-right ****s do to impress easily led white male morons with confidence issues? Shapiro and others like him have found a niche. Good for them.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Not at all relevant to the conversation, but has he ever been in an actual debate that isn't this theater crap the alt-right ****s do to impress easily led white male morons with confidence issues? Shapiro and others like him have found a niche. Good for them.
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Not at all.
He goes to many campuses to openly debate.
But what we are seeing in colleges lately is the left throwing tantrums and instead of debating.
Shapiro has been in many debates.
That's how he became popular isn't it?
He goes to big liberal universities and debates about welfare and abortion.
Its not like he goes to NASCAR or gun shows and debates.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Not at all relevant to the conversation, but has he ever been in an actual debate that isn't this theater crap the alt-right ****s do to impress easily led white male morons with confidence issues? Shapiro and others like him have found a niche. Good for them.
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I was just wondering how following Shapiro ruins credibility?
He's far from a hack.
 
Cgkone said:
Not at all.
He goes to many campuses to openly debate.
But what we are seeing in colleges lately is the left throwing tantrums and instead of debating.
Shapiro has been in many debates.
That's how he became popular isn't it?
He goes to big liberal universities and debates about welfare and abortion.
Its not like he goes to NASCAR or gun shows and debates.
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What does his speaking debates skills have to do with him writing an article as fact and presenting what Netanyahu is saying as fact? I think Shapiro is a book smart guy, but he's arrogant and extremely biased. He found a gig that worked, but that same group that made him popular is now turning against him and he deserves whatever comes his way because he helped fan those flames.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
What does his speaking debates skills have to do with him writing an article as fact and presenting what Netanyahu is saying as fact? I think Shapiro is a book smart guy, but he's arrogant and extremely biased. He found a gig that worked, but that same group that made him popular is now turning against him and he deserves whatever comes his way because he helped fan those flames.
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I don't think he makes a habit of making inaccurate claims.
At least none I can remember.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
He wasn't the leader until 2010. What am I saying that you're not following?
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It doesn't matter what past leaders of either country met and talked about,since it didn't produce any results. New leaders are starting new talks. Your previous statement implies that these new discussions are old news, been there done that.
 
youngandfree said:
It doesn't matter what past leaders of either country met and talked about,since it didn't produce any results. New leaders are starting new talks. Your previous statement implies that these new discussions are old news, been there done that.
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I'm not implying anything. I'm straight up saying that most of the people acting like Trump did something that has never been done before are either ignoring or (more than likely) ignorant of history. I'm saying that maybe we hold off on the parade and the peace prizes (still waiting on your answer to that one) until these two do more than the other two already did.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I'm not implying anything. I'm straight up saying that most of the people acting like Trump did something that has never been done before are either ignoring or (more than likely) ignorant of history. I'm saying that maybe we hold off on the parade and the peace prizes (still waiting on your answer to that one) until these two do more than the other two already did.
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Under what president before Trump did North and South Korea hold a meeting
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I'm not implying anything. I'm straight up saying that most of the people acting like Trump did something that has never been done before are either ignoring or (more than likely) ignorant of history. I'm saying that maybe we hold off on the parade and the peace prizes (still waiting on your answer to that one) until these two do more than the other two already did.
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Because as far as I know this is the first since the son became leader of north Korea.
He was hugging the south Korean President at the DMZ.
That's pretty huge.
The south Korean president gave Trump huge praises and said it was to his credit.
Ignoring the accomplishments of DJT is going to be impossible if things go well in Korea.
The fact that Russia couldn't shoot our missiles down probably scared the chit out of young Kim.
I would be scared of Trump if I was a dictator who threatens America.
 
Cgkone said:
Under what president before Trump did North and South Korea hold a meeting
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They have had many meetings at the 38th parallel over the decades. They have even made deals to send people over the border to work.

Kim-Jong-Big-Bum crossing the border to meet the South Korean dictator was something else special, but personally I always though Big-Bum was more of a modern reformist compared to his father and this was due to happen regardless of Dump. It does help to expedite the process if you contribute to diplomatic solutions rather than that pathetic illegal immigrant (well just kidding, i think) that ran our country down to the sewers the past 8 years who refused to call BigBum and even talk at his request. Dump should get credit at least, but lets see where this really takes us.
 
Cgkone said:
I would be scared of Trump if I was a dictator who threatens America.
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I dont think its so much that Kim is scared of Dump but more so that being a younger generation he wants to reform forward. He has had alot of developments in his country the past few years although he has been constrained by all those illegal sanctions that have been imposed on his people.
 
Earthquake at NK nuke site and the program halts.

Earthquake outside of Iran's facility.

Coincidence?

Listen to Trump talk about Iran better not restart their program. He also says they no longer bring their boats near our ships. They used to always under 44.

Anyways.. Large explosions show up as earthquakes. Maybe it was covert?
 
ax1 said:
I dont think its so much that Kim is scared of Dump but more so that being a younger generation he wants to reform forward. He has had alot of developments in his country the past few years although he has been constrained by all those illegal sanctions that have been imposed on his people.
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It would be worth it.
Stop building nukes and start becoming more like s Korea.
 
ax1 said:
I dont think its so much that Kim is scared of Dump but more so that being a younger generation he wants to reform forward. He has had alot of developments in his country the past few years although he has been constrained by all those illegal sanctions that have been imposed on his people.
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The other option is eventually getting stealth bombed into Oblivion
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I stated the years above, 2000 and 2007, so that would have been Clinto and Gearge W.Invalid Link Removed
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But since the younger took office has he met with anybody? Obama definitely didn't send Hillary Clinton over there to talk with him. I mean you have to be really really bias to not give credit where credit's due on this. Even MSNBC is said it's huge.
 
Cgkone said:
But since the younger took office has he met with anybody? Obama definitely didn't send Hillary Clinton over there to talk with him. I mean you have to be really really bias to not give credit where credit's due on this. Even MSNBC is said it's huge.
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LMAO, you keep changing your question everytime I answer it. Dude, if you want to ignore history or talk about things that you didn't know existed until I posted them, feel free. If Trump accomplishes peace in Korea, I will gladly give him credit. I'm saying, we've reached this point before. People need to settle down until thye actually do something new.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Earthquake at NK nuke site and the program halts.

Earthquake outside of Iran's facility.

Coincidence?

Listen to Trump talk about Iran better not restart their program. He also says they no longer bring their boats near our ships. They used to always under 44.

Anyways.. Large explosions show up as earthquakes. Maybe it was covert?
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I doubt it was a natural earthquake.
 
Cgkone said:
It would be worth it.
Stop building nukes and start becoming more like s Korea.
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Then again, Saddam and Qaddafi also threw off the gloves and said it wasnt worth it. Its a tough call, its going to be hit or miss.....different leaders here in the US can sometimes have variables in foreign policy, different leaders can back stab and set up when needed.

Keep in mind, whats not talked about is that DPRK has trillions of dollars in rare earth minerals that were discovered not too long ago. Being there are resources there that meets the needs of highest levels of sophisticated military tech there is ALOT of interest in North Korea, more so than that black gold in the middle east.
 
Cgkone said:
The other option is eventually getting stealth bombed into Oblivion
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We are talking mass genocide here. We havent even finished in Afghanistan, the longest war in US history. Let finish that one first, please, lol!!
 
cubsfan815 said:
Me too.

Seals
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Are you talking about the North Korea one? That happened almost immediately after the last test. If any Seals were in the area, they're now sand. More than likely the "earthquake" was because they were testing nuclear explosions in a mountain region.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Are you talking about the North Korea one? That happened almost immediately after the last test. If any Seals were in the area, they're now sand. More than likely the "earthquake" was because they were testing nuclear explosions in a mountain region.
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Iran one.

The ground did cave in on people in NK though.

Plus we don't really know what's a test, and what could have happened from US. They did send the decapitation unit in 1-2 weeks before the collapse.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Iran one.

The ground did cave in on people in NK though.

Plus we don't really know what's a test, and what could have happened from US. They did send the decapitation unit in 1-2 weeks before the collapse.
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Are you talking about the imaginary South Korea unit? Where are you seeing anybody got sent in?
 
cubsfan815 said:
Iran one.

The ground did cave in on people in NK though.

Plus we don't really know what's a test, and what could have happened from US. They did send the decapitation unit in 1-2 weeks before the collapse.
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The US could have used tectonic weapons but this stuff is just so difficult to prove. I would always add that to a range of possibilities.

People will think your out of your mind just for even the mention of these types of weapons, but I dont care, you can easily find mention of tectonic weapons in the governments own documents. I gonna go by that and try to figure this all out by those means.
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Aleksandar37 said:
I'm not implying anything. I'm straight up saying that most of the people acting like Trump did something that has never been done before are either ignoring or (more than likely) ignorant of history. I'm saying that maybe we hold off on the parade and the peace prizes (still waiting on your answer to that one) until these two do more than the other two already did.
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They already did. Rocket man already crossed the DMZ.
 
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