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Donald Trump running for president

Jiigzz said:
FWIW, I have no issue with the ban itself; it's your country and you deserve the right to protect it any way you see fit. However what I disagree with is that you are making the victims out to be the bullies, when the US itself created ISIS and caused a tonne of issues in the middle east. You created these issues, and now you are blocking those seeking refuge from your ****-up.
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Keep in mind the criminal elements of the whole crisis, if you start digging into wikileaks you will find out how the whole refugee crisis is designed to push for the NWO just like that big global warming hoax.
 
Speaking of climate change, another NOAA whistleblower came out the other day stating he has irrefutable evidence that his colleagues have been providing the public misleading, ‘unverified’ data in order to push for a political agenda aka global government.

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Jiigzz said:
FWIW, I have no issue with the ban itself; it's your country and you deserve the right to protect it any way you see fit. However what I disagree with is that you are making the victims out to be the bullies, when the US itself created ISIS and caused a tonne of issues in the middle east. You created these issues, and now you are blocking those seeking refuge from your ****-up.
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The real big bully as a whole is NATO who New Zealand is a non-member major ally...New Zealand is as guilty as any other country who involves themselves with NATO...comes to think of it, Australia dumps thousands of refugees that get caught trying to go there on boats on a island far away from them....New Zealand can save the day and take them in too since they participate in criminal organizations destroying the middle east causing the refugee crisis.
 
I predict the ruling will come tomorrow afternoon, and it will be against the immigrant ban....tomey started this trend when he made the decision not to indict Hillary and announced decision on a Friday afternoon.
 
justhere4comm said:
I believe it, and I also read the number of forced displaced people has doubled in the last 20 years. Where are all of them going to go? I'm not asking them all to come here.

How about this plot twist?
Our President has embraced Big Pharma and Wall Street... The same idiots whom have gouged us on medication, and those other idiots (geniuses) whom were bailed out for screwing up. He is deregulating them.

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The man has nothing in common with the working man or woman. Nothing. He's so out of touch it's not funny, and how people can even consider he has the tiniest grasp or care is beyond comprehension.
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you make me laugh....it's driving you crazy that Donald trump is YOUR president:toofunny:
 
youngandfree said:
He certainly wasn't compelled to change his mind according to the law he cited as his basis for writing the EO. It doesn't really matter what you think of our actual laws.
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If it didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have responded to me numerous times.

I love the irony in your name given that the US is rnaked yellow (middle road freedom) for 2 aspects of freedom and only one purple. With NZ and Switzerland being the only countries with 3 purples.

Truly youngandfree ;)
 
ax1 said:
The real big bully as a whole is NATO who New Zealand is a non-member major ally...New Zealand is as guilty as any other country who involves themselves with NATO...comes to think of it, Australia dumps thousands of refugees that get caught trying to go there on boats on a island far away from them....New Zealand can save the day and take them in too since they participate in criminal organizations destroying the middle east causing the refugee crisis.
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Errm, we are not members of NATO, we are allied with the US, hence the title non-member major ally LOL. It is a title you give us to state that: "NZ is a non member of NATO, but are allied to the US (non member major ally)". That confers benefits not normally attained by non NATO members.

So no. No we are not.
 
ax1 said:
Speaking of climate change, another NOAA whistleblower came out the other day stating he has irrefutable evidence that his colleagues have been providing the public misleading, ‘unverified’ data in order to push for a political agenda aka global government.

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I see that another push is being made for a 'carbon tax'....
 
Jiigzz said:
Errm, we are not members of NATO, we are allied with the US, hence the title non-member major ally LOL. It is a title you give us to state that: "NZ is a non member of NATO, but are allied to the US (non member major ally)". That confers benefits not normally attained by non NATO members.

So no. No we are not.
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friends with benefits, lol.
 
Jiigzz said:
Errm, we are not members of NATO, we are allied with the US, hence the title non-member major ally LOL. It is a title you give us to state that: "NZ is a non member of NATO, but are allied to the US (non member major ally)". That confers benefits not normally attained by non NATO members.

So no. No we are not.
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Sorry, New Zealand's government is guilty of aiding terrorism.

Over recent years, NATO has developed relations with a range of countries beyond the Euro-Atlantic area. New Zealand is counted among these countries, which are referred to as “partners across the globe”. Building on dialogue and cooperation that has been developed since 2001, NATO and New Zealand signalled their commitment to strengthen cooperation with the joint signature of an Individual Partnership and Cooperation Programme in June 2012. New Zealand has made valuable contributions to NATO-led efforts in Afghanistan, first as part of the International Security Assistance Force and now under the new mission (known as “Resolute Support”) to train, advise and assist the Afghan security forces and institutions.
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Our role in the war is literally training and awareness, and yet you call us terrorists for trying to rectify your mistakes?

Seems logical
 
Assisting NATO is not the same as being in NATO
 
ax1 said:
Sorry, New Zealand's government is guilty of aiding terrorism.

Over recent years, NATO has developed relations with a range of countries beyond the Euro-Atlantic area. New Zealand is counted among these countries, which are referred to as “partners across the globe”. Building on dialogue and cooperation that has been developed since 2001, NATO and New Zealand signalled their commitment to strengthen cooperation with the joint signature of an Individual Partnership and Cooperation Programme in June 2012. New Zealand has made valuable contributions to NATO-led efforts in Afghanistan, first as part of the International Security Assistance Force and now under the new mission (known as “Resolute Support”) to train, advise and assist the Afghan security forces and institutions.
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They also aided terrorism in Iraq too, contributing to the instability of the middle east and the refugee crisis years later.

To make matters worse, New Zealand contributed to the destruction of the Middle East over some measly oil and food. Total sell outs.

Following the invasion, later in 2003 New Zealand supplied a number of engineers and armed troops to the coalition effort. Task Group Rake, a Royal New Zealand Engineers group, joined Multi-National Division South East for one year under British Army command.[20] Cables leaked by Wikileaks in 2010 suggested New Zealand had only done so in order to keep valuable Oil for Food contracts.[21][22]
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ax1 said:
They also aided terrorism in Iraq too, contributing to the instability of the middle east and the refugee crisis years later.

To make matters worse, New Zealand contributed to the destruction of the Middle East over some measly oil and food. Total sell outs.

Following the invasion, later in 2003 New Zealand supplied a number of engineers and armed troops to the coalition effort. Task Group Rake, a Royal New Zealand Engineers group, joined Multi-National Division South East for one year under British Army command.[20] Cables leaked by Wikileaks in 2010 suggested New Zealand had only done so in order to keep valuable Oil for Food contracts.[21][22]
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Do you even know what Oil for Food contracts are? Maybe look that one up LOL. You're stretching today. Either thst or misinterpreted the article you cited (oil for food programme, we didnt do it for oil AND food).

How exactly do we contribute to destruction when we send over non combative forces LOL. Stop stretching.
 
ax1 said:
Thats like saying Mussolini assisting Hitler was not the Nazi's. It doesnt exempt from partaking in humanitarian crimes.
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My god that is a stretch. Mussolini had his own plans to take land in Africa. He wasn't just "assisting", he was actually aggressive in taking land. Also, WW2 is completely different to now.

Cmon dude. Seriously. You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
And surprise suprise, the good intentions of the Oil for Food programme - a programme constructed to aid people in iraq - was abused by people in the US and Iraq.
 
Jiigzz said:
My god that is a stretch. Mussolini had his own plans to take land in Africa. He wasn't just "assisting", he was actually aggressive in taking land. Also, WW2 is completely different to now.

Cmon dude. Seriously. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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New Zealand could have stood for peace and followed a non-interventionist policies and not meddled with the foreign affairs of other countries where you are not wanted. Sending armed troops on foreign soil along with other skill sets to aid NATO backed militias and training IS a contribution.
 
Jiigzz said:
And surprise suprise, the good intentions of the Oil for Food programme - a programme constructed to aid people in iraq - was abused by people in the US and Iraq.
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Its also abused by New Zealand. Its always about the $$$$$
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Jiigzz said:
And surprise suprise, the good intentions of the Oil for Food programme - a programme constructed to aid people in iraq - was abused by people in the US and Iraq.
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I believe that was primarily the UN, not "the people of the US" although Im sure contributions were made by Americans.

Maurice Strong a Canadian (UN Diplomat directly under the General Secretary,) the founding father of the Climate Change hoax back in the '80s was at the forefront of the Iraq oil for food scam. There were other foreign nationals too involved but you cant just say the "US."
 
Jiigzz said:
How exactly do we contribute to destruction when we send over non combative forces LOL. Stop stretching.
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New Zealand lost 8 soldiers in combat situations, so you cant exactly make a non-combative forces claim.

By August 2012, 10 New Zealand soldiers had died while stationed in Afghanistan: eight in combat and two in non-combat situations.
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We should try to get a hold of this book, but more importantly find these wikileaks docuoments.

Based on thousands of leaked New Zealand military and intelligence documents, extensive interviews with military and intelligence officers and eye-witness accounts from the soldiers on the ground, Nicky Hager tells the story of these years. New Zealand was far more involved than the public realised in this crucial period of world history. He tells how the military and bureaucracy used the war on terror to pursue private agendas, even when this meant misleading and ignoring the decisions of the elected government.
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I just found out that the Prime Minister of New Zealand (08-2016) gave 7 million dollars of New Zealander's tax payer money to the Founding Mother of ISIS and her organization. NZ is all part of the problem, and all in on the $$$ystem.
 
ax1 said:
New Zealand lost 8 soldiers in combat situations, so you cant exactly make a non-combative forces claim.

By August 2012, 10 New Zealand soldiers had died while stationed in Afghanistan: eight in combat and two in non-combat situations.
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It's a war zone, but we don't actively seek fighting. 8 people in 13 years is not bad IMO.
 
ax1 said:
I just found out that the Prime Minister of New Zealand (08-2016) gave 7 million dollars of New Zealander's tax payer money to the Founding Mother of ISIS and her organization. NZ is all part of the problem, and all in on the $$$ystem.
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Haha where the heck do you get your info man.
 
Jiigzz said:
If it didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have responded to me numerous times.

I love the irony in your name given that the US is rnaked yellow (middle road freedom) for 2 aspects of freedom and only one purple. With NZ and Switzerland being the only countries with 3 purples.

Truly youngandfree ;)
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I just keep responding because you keep making eronius statements about what our laws actually state, that's all. That's why I said President Trump wasn't compelled by law to make those exemptions. The other thing to note in the entire discussion of the legality of his EO is the fact that the activist judge that issued the injunction never once claimed the US Code, that grants President Trump along with ALL the other presidents that have used it, the power to make such a proclomation, is in question regarding its Constitutionality. His entire judgement was an activist opinion, and reads as such.

Furthermore, my screen name has ZERO to do with the results of some random poll asking people if they live in a free country or not.
 
Jiigzz said:
Haha where the heck do you get your info man.
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I found that in New Zeleand news but I closed the link...they sourced wikileaks which would be the next step to validate the source, not that we should give wikileaks confidence in everything but they are far more real news than the stuff on TV here.
 
ROFL! The 9th disctrict is the same court that supported a ban on American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo in public schools. Mexican flag shirt still okie dokey btw.

No ethical judiciary integrity, Dump should issue a triple arrest warrant.
 
9th district is 80% overturned.

Eight of out of 10 cases from the 9th Circuit reviewed by the Supreme Court are overruled, according to a 2010 analysis published by the American Bar Association. The 9th Circuit, which is known for its liberal tendencies, has the second-highest reversal rate of the 13 appellate courts below the Supreme Court.
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ax1 said:
ROFL! The 9th disctrict is the same court that supported a ban on American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo in public schools. Mexican flag shirt still okie dokey btw.

No ethical judiciary integrity, Dump should issue a triple arrest warrant.
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OK, I'm gonna need a link on that one lol. What exactly was the ruling about American flag shirts?
 
If Russia does indeed hand Snowden over to Dump, and Dump prosecutes him he will officially be on top of my shytlist for life.
 
ax1 said:
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WTF?! That's insane. What a horrible lesson to teach children. If there was a fear of an altercation, you threaten to expel anybody who starts one. Bring in police if you have to.
 
ax1 said:
If Russia does indeed hand Snowden over to Dump, and Dump prosecutes him he will officially be on top of my shytlist for life.
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They should give him amnesty, and hire him to run the entire cyber crime division. I follow him, and have read a few interviews and 'how to' articles, and he's a freaking genius. It would be very upsetting if he is turned over; arrested, and prosecuted.
 
justhere4comm said:
They should give him amnesty, and hire him to run the entire cyber crime division. I follow him, and have read a few interviews and 'how to' articles, and he's a freaking genius. It would be very upsetting if he is turned over; arrested, and prosecuted.
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Dump way back then when this happened called for his assassination...that was probably the primary reason I didnt vote for him. It kind of gave it away and let me know who's side he is really on. I wish he would Pardon him for both a slap to Obama and to respect the Constitution, but thats about a 1% chance imo.
 
justhere4comm said:
They should give him amnesty, and hire him to run the entire cyber crime division. I follow him, and have read a few interviews and 'how to' articles, and he's a freaking genius. It would be very upsetting if he is turned over; arrested, and prosecuted.
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I think there would be a crazy amount of reveals on both sides if this went through. Plus I don't see him making it back here alive.
 
ax1 said:
Dump way back then when this happened called for his assassination...that was probably the primary reason I didnt vote for him. It kind of gave it away and let me know who's side he is really on. I wish he would Pardon him for both a slap to Obama and to respect the Constitution, but thats about a 1% chance imo.
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I think Obama would have pardoned him if he stayed here. He commuted Chelsea Manning, although that might have been more of a slap towards Trump.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I think there would be a crazy amount of reveals on both sides if this went through. Plus I don't see him making it back here alive.
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Not sure. Why would anyone want him dead? He's more valuable alive. First as a tool for prancing around public for a Trump 'victory' and fantasy about working with Russia and how that works... Makes sense because General Flynn was collaborating with them during the campaign to make something like this happen among other things. (i.e,. fake sanctions)

Aleksandar37 said:
I think Obama would have pardoned him if he stayed here. He commuted Chelsea Manning, although that might have been more of a slap towards Trump.
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Truth, but that would have dropped his poll numbers by the conservatives whom think Snowden a traitor, but really he's a hero. Agreed about Chelsea being a slap in the face to Trump but she was also a valid whistle blower revealing wrong doing by us.
 
justhere4comm said:
Not sure. Why would anyone want him dead? He's more valuable alive. First as a tool for prancing around public for a Trump 'victory' and fantasy about working with Russia and how that works... Makes sense because General Flynn was collaborating with them during the campaign to make something like this happen among other things. (i.e,. fake sanctions)



Truth, but that would have dropped his poll numbers by the conservatives whom think Snowden a traitor, but really he's a hero. Agreed about Chelsea being a slap in the face to Trump but she was also a valid whistle blower revealing wrong doing by us.
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I think he'll find a way himself to take care of not making it back here alive. So you see a difference between Manning and Snowden? I think they're both pretty valid whistle blowers.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I think he'll find a way himself to take care of not making it back here alive. So you see a difference between Manning and Snowden? I think they're both pretty valid whistle blowers.
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Oh. My. I hadn't considered that regarding Snowden, and they are both valid whistleblowers. I"m more familiar with Snowden.
 
justhere4comm said:
Not sure. Why would anyone want him dead? He's more valuable alive. First as a tool for prancing around public for a Trump 'victory' and fantasy about working with Russia and how that works... Makes sense because General Flynn was collaborating with them during the campaign to make something like this happen among other things. (i.e,. fake sanctions)



Truth, but that would have dropped his poll numbers by the conservatives whom think Snowden a traitor, but really he's a hero. Agreed about Chelsea being a slap in the face to Trump but she was also a valid whistle blower revealing wrong doing by us.
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IMO, it's more about Manning being transgender than about whistleblowing with conservatives. You know, given their track record.
 
Misfit28 said:
Alex Jones and secret coded transmissions that he downloads through his tin foil hat ;)
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Yeah but I factfuqed it and then snoped it, then I consulted libtards.net just to be triple sure I got it right.
 
Misfit28 said:
IMO, it's more about Manning being transgender than about whistleblowing with conservatives. You know, given their track record.
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Possibly, but the whole thing is insane. We teach our children that this country was founded by rebels and traitors and yet punish those that do just that. Just shows that it's the same damn thing that has been going on in every country since the beginning and will continue to the end. We just call it a different name.
 
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