Tunaking14
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New Zealand literally locked you down and fucked your freedom during the COVID academic….you are a shillA much more tyrannical govt?Whose country is currently deploying marines to handle a few rioters?
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Jiigzz
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Any govt willing to deploy active duty members against its own people is a slippery slope to authoritarianism. National Guard makes sense, but Marines.. phew!
I mean, one minute you're all for it because it's a cause you agree with, what happens when someone uses the same power against a cause you believe in?
Are you not following your own news? It's national guard AND active duty marines. 2nd Battalion 7th Marines in case you want to look it up.
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Jiigzz
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Treat people like animals, expect a circus (is that the saying?)
BamBam54
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That's not a saying, and that's not the reason they are rioting.
ICE was arresting criminal illegal aliens. The Democrat voting liberal radicals swarmed and tried to prevent the lawful ICE arrests. That is called "sedition" and justifies a federal response to restore order.
You tend to side with the radical leftists. I side with the Marines. Guess which side will prevail in an LA street fight?
Jiigzz
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I have a sneaking suspicion that if you treat people with respect, even when they're in the wrong, you get better outcomes.
Any body watching videos of the ICE raids can see that they treat people like ****, and then they're surprised when people respond. Like I said, treat people like animals, expect a circus.
You guys are weird. "2A protects us from the Govt!!!"
Also 2A people: "Yes daddy govt, send the Marines
"You shouldn't need your war machine to handle a few rocks. Send in the National Guard and Riot Police.
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ax1
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Our country is trending more and more so in a dangerous path of big government authoritarianism....if anybody needs to be arrested, they should arrest the Governor and every one of them minions for stripping people's ability of self defense and their 2A rights (not limited to just AR's) to protect themselves and their property....but then those ordering that call would also have to turn themselves in lol.I have a sneaking suspicion that if you treat people with respect, even when they're in the wrong, you get better outcomes.
Any body watching videos of the ICE raids can see that they treat people like ****, and then they're surprised when people respond. Like I said, treat people like animals, expect a circus.
You guys are weird. "2A protects us from the Govt!!!"
Also 2A people: "Yes daddy govt, send the Marines
You shouldn't need your war machine to handle a few rocks. Send in the National Guard and Riot Police.
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BamBam54
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I have a sneaking suspicion that if you treat people with respect, even when they're in the wrong, you get better outcomes.
Any body watching videos of the ICE raids can see that they treat people like ****, and then they're surprised when people respond. Like I said, treat people like animals, expect a circus.
You guys are weird. "2A protects us from the Govt!!!"
Also 2A people: "Yes daddy govt, send the Marines
You shouldn't need your war machine to handle a few rocks. Send in the National Guard and Riot Police.
I have a sneaking suspicion that anarchists WISH you would treat them with respect so they could more easily undermine the social order. They exploit the gentle restrictions forced upon police as they throw rocks and bricks at police. Supporting this radical leftwing nonsense makes you their useful idiot....
Illegal aliens who violate our border laws and invade the country, and then further commit crimes need to be handled in a way that stops them, captures them, and deports them and their entire families in a way that further discourages your fellow scumbags from playing similar games.
Our 2A rights are guaranteed as a means to oppose government tyranny.... like forcing the population to take experimental injections and being locked in our homes. Not to oppose ICE agents doing their actual job.
In a normal world, the police and National Guard should handle a situation like this. But in a Democrat run state with Democrat officials delaying a full police response, with Democrat judges letting criminals out as fast as they are arrested, with Democrat congressman demanding the National Guard not be used, where a Democrat president pumped 10 million illegals into the country.... a law and order President might need the Marines to deliver the appropriate level of whoop-ass.
No one is above the law... right?? LOLOLOL
ax1
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Im against cantralized government intervention on the States (in most cases) but they should just hire those French Farmers send them to Cali and bring those shyt cannons like the way they hosed off those government buildings in France. Launch the nastiest slimiest shyt bombs all over those idiots.In a normal world, the police and National Guard should handle a situation like this. But in a Democrat run state with Democrat officials delaying a full police response, with Democrat judges letting criminals out as fast as they are arrested, with Democrat congressman demanding the National Guard not be used, where a Democrat president pumped 10 million illegals into the country.... a law and order President might need the Marines to deliver the appropriate level of whoop-ass.
No one is above the law... right?? LOLOLOL
That would be some tax dollars well spent Ill never complain about lol
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Dustin07
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always cracks me up when foreigners belittle assault on cops.
this picture says enough. I'd love to see any of you go to Mexico or any other country (especially 3rd world), riot, burn their flag, then stand on top of burning cars waving your country's flag and let me know how it goes for you.
its basically a Low IQ persons version of an invasion/revolution. And if an American is doing this, I'm not sure how you could possibly NOT describe it as treasonous.
Anabolic66
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Libz are the "Kiddie-Kaulk Konnoisseurs" of the USA... Kid grooming commies...
Tunaking14
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If we could only be that lucky!
Tunaking14
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He's a clueless shill!!! He's jealous because nobody gives 2 fuks about his shithole of a country. Actually the country is nice but their gov't is ****.
baldwanus
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It's actually kinda sad. Just look at his post history. A guy who lives in NZ is spending his spare time coming onto a fucking supplement forum to argue about US politics. He's not here to talk about supplements or training or nutrition anymore, he's literally just here to argue about Trump.
Jiigzz
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I have a sneaking suspicion that anarchists WISH you would treat them with respect so they could more easily undermine the social order. They exploit the gentle restrictions forced upon police as they throw rocks and bricks at police. Supporting this radical leftwing nonsense makes you their useful idiot....
Illegal aliens who violate our border laws and invade the country, and then further commit crimes need to be handled in a way that stops them, captures them, and deports them and their entire families in a way that further discourages your fellow scumbags from playing similar games.
Our 2A rights are guaranteed as a means to oppose government tyranny.... like forcing the population to take experimental injections and being locked in our homes. Not to oppose ICE agents doing their actual job.
In a normal world, the police and National Guard should handle a situation like this. But in a Democrat run state with Democrat officials delaying a full police response, with Democrat judges letting criminals out as fast as they are arrested, with Democrat congressman demanding the National Guard not be used, where a Democrat president pumped 10 million illegals into the country.... a law and order President might need the Marines to deliver the appropriate level of whoop-ass.
No one is above the law... right?? LOLOLOL
Nothing wrong with any country enforcing its laws. But the saying still stands, if you treat people like animals, then expect a circus
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Jiigzz
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Jiigzz
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What lol
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ax1
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To be honest I actually like him coming on and venting his views even though I disagree with alot of them. Makes this thread much more fun. We had another couple liberals in here years ago I used to love debating with but they are long gone....one got kicked off after calling for a violent revolution and chaos to stop Trump his first term lol.
Not that I dont argue with Republicans and MAGA just as much, I just like a more diverse debate.
You cant blame people from other country's coming in having interest venting their thoughts on US politcs as well, after all we are the Capital of the world right now.
ax1
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I didnt even know NZ was a country? Wut?Shithole country?
Most free country in the world
Lol just kidding.
Smont
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The problem is the people are already acting like animals so they need to be put in cages
Smont
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I think what you meant to say was, when your people are going around acting like animals, they need to be put into cages.
When a bunch of morons riot in the streets to prevent law enforcement from doing their job, people are acting like animals and they should be put in cages.
The liberal Looney tunes think that there feelings should determine what is legal, right or just. Getting illegal immigrants out of the country is terrible but sex changes for 10 years olds is a priority.
It is terrible that there snagging parents at graduations. I feel bad about that. But I don't get to determine what laws should and shouldn't be enforced in either to you or the liberal wackadeus.
If I committed a crime and the police caught me at my kids graduation id be arrested. I. Highschool my boys dad was dragged out of a highschool B-Ball game in cuffs. It sucked but maybe he shouldn't have done the things that got him in that situation. Like selling cocaine to undercover cops. That's bad though right? He was also a great dad, coached rec basketball, worked and went to church. But all of those good things don't negate selling cocaine to police officers. Just like even tho there's probably good ppl who came here for safety, he did it illegally and they broke laws and they've been continuing to break laws by not becoming citizens the right way.
Laws need to be enforced.
Facts don't care about your feelings or mine.
I'm actually a registered Democrat, but they have turned into a bunch of disgusting hateful nutjobs who can't take any responsibility or liability for themselves and just want to point their fingers at other people and do outrageous **** and justify there feelings
The modern Democrat needs a straight jacket. But they already probably have them in their wardrobes with their dog collars and assless chaps
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BamBam54
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Tunaking14
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Most free country in the world? Dude you are delusional. You mean a country where you can get arrested for posting offensive memes? or even possesing them?
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You mean the country where they forcefully locked down its citizens during the Covid scamdemic?
In response to the first outbreak in late February 2020, the New Zealand Government closed the country's borders and imposed lockdown restrictions.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-4"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> A four-tier alert level system was introduced on 21 March 2020 to manage the outbreak within New Zealand.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-The_Guardian_23_Mar_2020-5"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> After a two-month nationwide lockdown, from 26 March to 27 May 2020, regionalised alert level changes were also used; the Auckland Region entered lockdown twice, in August–September 2020 and February–March 2021.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-Newshub_11_Aug_2020-6"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-:4-7"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> The country then went for several months without any community transmission, with all cases restricted to the managed isolation system.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-Newshub_17_Aug_2021-8"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a>
In August 2021, New Zealand entered nationwide lockdown due to a case of community transmission in Auckland of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant, with subsequent community cases in Auckland and Wellington.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-Newshub_17_Aug_2021-8"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a> Due to rising cases nationwide, the Government abandoned its elimination strategy while accelerating the country's vaccination rollout.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-Guardian_4_Oct_2021-9"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> Auckland remained in a form of lockdown until 3 December 2021 when the new COVID-19 Protection Framework ("traffic light system") came into effect.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-10"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> Between February and May 2022, the Government gradually eased border restrictions, public gathering limits, and vaccine mandate requirements.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-RNZ_3_Feb_2022-11"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-1_News_23_March_2022-12"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-RNZ_11_May_2022-13"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> In September 2022, the Government ended the COVID-19 Protection Framework, lifting the remaining vaccine mandates and mask requirements.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-NZH_12_Sep_2022-14"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a> On 15 August 2023, the Government lifted all remaining COVID-19 restrictions.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand#cite_note-15"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a>
Tunaking14
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You mean a country that won't let foreigners buy land...............actually you can but they have lots of provisions.
Gun laws are so restrictive. I mean you can't even build a storage shed on your property in New Zealand without permission and permits.
Let's not even get into you drug laws:
In New Zealand, recreational cannabis use and possession are illegal, controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975. Possession of any amount of cannabis is a criminal offense, with penalties including up to three months' imprisonment or a $500 fine, though there's a rebuttable presumption against imprisonment for possession. Cultivating cannabis for personal use carries a maximum penalty of seven years' imprisonment. The Act also criminalizes
Like I said. You don't have a clue about the U.S. so stay in your lane.
ax1
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Damn, sounds alot like New York lol
Tunaking14
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TheViking
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In fact, the countries in Scandinavia, along with New Zealand and Canada, rank the highest when it comes to human, global, and media freedom. If you define freedom as the ability to use drugs, carry weapons, and build questionable structures on your property, then of course the U.S. would rank near the top.
Tunaking14
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Again- you are a clueless shill. I’m sure you support socialism, huge gov’t. regulation, and heavy law enforcement over citizens. There is a reason people from all over the world want to come to America and nobody cares about going to Scandinavia or New Zealand. You and Jizz sound like lovers as you parrot the same nonsense.
Dustin07
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one of my best friends moved back to new zealand right before covid hit because his job was going to relocate him to california and he has regretted ever since. not that he wants to live in California, but every week the amount of communist propaganda he faces in NZ has been a nightmare the past 5 years.
Tunaking14
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I think Iran is scum but Israel is going to start WWIII if they keep it up.
Renew1
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Maybe .... But if we (or any other country that) wanted to exist and live ... We'd do exactly the same thing.
.... Or we'd all eventually die.