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Domestic shipping through USPS

Crotalus

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With domesticate shipping :

When USPS x-rays and opens a package with suspicious / illegal goods, what happens after that ? Do they usually deliver it and than send someone to your house or just confiscate it and let you know a package of yours contained illegal goods was taken and that's the end of it ? Would they really bother to send a couple guys out for one 50ml vial of test ?

Anyone with first hand experiance ? I'd appreciate any info.

Some say use a temp mailbox or P.O. box but I fail to see the safety in that as both require your real address and contact info on recoord.
 
Crotalus said:
With domesticate shipping :

When USPS x-rays and opens a package with suspicious / illegal goods, what happens after that ? Do they usually deliver it and than send someone to your house or just confiscate it and let you know a package of yours contained illegal goods was taken and that's the end of it ? Would they really bother to send a couple guys out for one 50ml vial of test ?

Anyone with first hand experiance ? I'd appreciate any info.

Some say use a temp mailbox or P.O. box but I fail to see the safety in that as both require your real address and contact info on recoord.
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If they open a shady pack and find illegal goods they very well may try a controlled delivery.
 
jminis said:
If they open a shady pack and find illegal goods they very well may try a controlled delivery.
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Yeah, but it seems that most of the time people get a note from customs.

LOL. Rick Collins talks about people who actually took the "option" to pickup the package from customs and actually getting arrested. :rofl: And, he talked about large shipments being accompanied by agents...but, for smaller shipments, usually it gets confiscated. Just don't have your name on the damn box and don't sign for anything. You can always get it and leave it unopened for a week or so and write "return to sender" on the box or something like that. Some people may laugh at that idea, but I was told that by someone most ppl on this board have a lot of respect for.

The one thing is, domestic sources have definately been under fire lately. It may be safer to go internetional....
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Yeah, but it seems that most of the time people get a note from customs.

LOL. Rick Collins talks about people who actually took the "option" to pickup the package from customs and actually getting arrested. :rofl: And, he talked about large shipments being accompanied by agents...but, for smaller shipments, usually it gets confiscated. Just don't have your name on the damn box and don't sign for anything. You can always get it and leave it unopened for a week or so and write "return to sender" on the box or something like that. Some people may laugh at that idea, but I was told that by someone most ppl on this board have a lot of respect for.

The one thing is, domestic sources have definately been under fire lately. It may be safer to go internetional....
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Why would customs be involved? He asked about domestic shipping through USPS.
 
Thanks for some responses to this.

Here's the deal. This would be my first order of real gear. I'm wanting to do a cycle of TE and want to order a 50ml vial.

I've been wanting to place my first gear order but hesitating because of the thoughts of someone tracing the package to my house. The source I have is a good one, one I learned of through a good friend who has been using him for over a year with no problems. But, you never know if he's being watched now or if your package will be one that's gets traced.

It isn't 50ml vial of test I'm concerned with losing or getting nailed with, it's that I work out of my house against a local ordinance and wouldn't want that 'outed'. If they were to do a search - I'd be screwed as far as that goes.

No , no , it's not what you're thinking, LOL, - it's legitimate - you're just just not supposed to be operating a business out of your home around here. The zoning changed after I was here and set up after seven years and them being assholes, I know it would be impossible to deal with them as far as a 'grandfather clause' goes so I have to avoid a confrontation at all costs. There would be no winning as these assholes would dream up some other reason besides the zoning change. It's just best I just continue and keep quite about it. They forgot about me and want to keep it that way ... but want the test too !!

Anyway, this would be my first order and will be only a 50ml vial of test so the chances are slim that it would be checked and am probably concerned about nothing as I've never had any reason for suspicions of what I receive yet I still have to be cautious because of the other thing ...

I've been thinking about that 'Return to Sender' thing and I would definately do that but that still doesn't guarentee the whole place wouldn't be searched. I wouldn't care about the house , it's seeing my shop in the back.
 
He'd do it in a heart beat but only way I'd do that was if he was placing an order for himself and he's set for awhile.

Anytime you do something like this could be the time something goes wrong so I'd never ask a friend to take that risk for me.

I'll have to wait till I make a personal connection or just bite the bullet and take the chance.
 
I don't think you should have a problem. As long as packaging is the way it's supposed to be no one will mess with it. In the end it's your choice.
 
Crotalus said:
He'd do it in a heart beat but only way I'd do that was if he was placing an order for himself and he's set for awhile.

Anytime you do something like this could be the time something goes wrong so I'd never ask a friend to take that risk for me.

I'll have to wait till I make a personal connection or just bite the bullet and take the chance.
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Yeah, I was just messin' ;)

Think of it this way...if you have a package arrive at your door w/out a name on it that you don't have to sign for, is that "more" of a risk than actually handing somebody money for steroids? Personally, I don't think so. If it is a setup, when u stick the money in the person's hand, you're busted.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Yeah, I was just messin' ;)

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:thumbsup: Oh I know you were ... just wanted to make sure you guys knew I wasn't an asshole that would leave a friend hanging out to dry . Who you think you're talking to , Concenco ? :rofl:


But I don't know about the second part ... it's a 'search' I'm concerned about. If it was just the risk of being nailed with the vial of test and that was the end of it without a couple of guys parading through my place, the **** would have been ordered a month ago.

I know the chances of something happening are slim and none as the guy has a great rep , etc. and my friend had no problems.

If I pass on ordering I'll be training all summer 'natural', cursing myself for not having any balls. Yet if I order, get nailed and my ordinance violation discovered I'll end up punching in at a 'real' job and I'll be bitching even more for not having any brains !! :icon_lol:
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Okay, so lets look at it this way.

If you don't order: 100% chance you'll punch yourself in the face.

If you do order: <1% chance you'll get busted, which can ruin your life.

Damn....that really didn't make things any easier, did it? LOL.

Well, it probably wouldn't ruin your life. Look around and get an online prescription for it. I was just talking to a guy earlier who got an online script so that he can take it. OR find yourself some good 'ol PH's then come off, go to a Dr. and get tested..you WILL have low test AND a brand new prescription :D
 
Just let them leave the pack on your doorstep. Make sure there is only one guy, if there is more than one delivery guy....get scared. If not, take it in and put in in the corner and write return to sender. Open it in a week or so.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
You can always get it and leave it unopened for a week or so and write "return to sender" on the box or something like that. Some people may laugh at that idea, but I was told that by someone most ppl on this board have a lot of respect for.
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VERY bad idea. I have spoken directly with Rick about this and it is a prime example of BAD information passed around on internet message boards.
 
VERY bad idea. I have spoken directly with Rick about this and it is a prime example of BAD information passed around on internet message boards.

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I would think it would look better if you at least opened it, sealed it back up and wrote " return to sender ". I mean , who wouldn't open a package sent to then even if one wasn't expected ?

I certainly would ... and hopefully it would contain a vial of TE.
 
CROWLER said:
VERY bad idea. I have spoken directly with Rick about this and it is a prime example of BAD information passed around on internet message boards.
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LOL. I knew some of you would think it was odd ;)

I'm sure you did talk to Rick about it. But, what else can you do? If they get a search warrant, they'll get your gear regardless. Say you get the gear, tear it out of the box, and someone knocks on your door two days later and they find gear in your closet, how is that better than if they find a box with "return to sender" or something on it, that is not opened?

I just don't see how it's a VERY BAD IDEA because you can't really do much else. What do you suggest in place of that idea?
 
Crotalus said:
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I would think it would look better if you at least opened it, sealed it back up and wrote " return to sender ". I mean , who wouldn't open a package sent to then even if one wasn't expected ?

I certainly would ... and hopefully it would contain a vial of TE.
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If a package comes to you "without your name on it" and you tear into it anyway, then it's a crime (assuming it was someone elses package).

If you get a package that doesn't belong to you, you don't open it. So, if you get a package of gear that you want the authorities to believe is NOT yours, why would you open it?
 
Crotalus said:
VERY bad idea. I have spoken directly with Rick about this and it is a prime example of BAD information passed around on internet message boards.

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I would think it would look better if you at least opened it, sealed it back up and wrote " return to sender ". I mean , who wouldn't open a package sent to then even if one wasn't expected ?

I certainly would ... and hopefully it would contain a vial of TE.
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Even WORSE advice.

I STRONGLY suggest people spend the $29 or so to get Rick's book, it could REALLY save you a ton of money for listening to brotelligence. :)


CROWLER
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
LOL. I knew some of you would think it was odd ;)
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IMO it was a good idea back about 5 to 10 years ago but the cops read these boards just like we do.


What would I suggest, CEE and Glutimine like I use. ;)
 
If you get a package that doesn't belong to you, you don't open it. So, if you get a package of gear that you want the authorities to believe is NOT yours, why would you open it
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I wouldn't have a fake name on it ... that would look suspicious . I have the same mail person for years and she knows my name , I get packages all the time.

I have no reason to worry as far as any one watching me . The only way anything would screw up would be if the source was being watched and they decided to trace stuff coming from him.

Like I said it's a slim to none chance ... which goes back to my main concern ... would they bother with a search for only a one vial package ? I could see a search if it was a big order like I was selling , but I'd think for one vial they'd just take it and notify me.

But if I was SURE of that , I'd be at my CR account ordering right now, LOL.
 
In case you haven't already read these...some good info.

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I agree with you in regards to using your real name, and making everything seem as unsuspicous as possible...especially if you already recieve packages all the time.
 
Thanks for the threads.

I read the second two before but this was the first time I read the first. I was pretty much aware of everything it mentioned as far as PO boxes, temp mail boxes , etc and knew that route was actually risker than having a delivery to your own house. Since I ship and mail stuff all the time, I was pretty much on about what I should be concerned about and how to go about it.

It was interesting to know how the controlled delivery is done as that was somethig I didn't know. I still can't help but wonder if they'd bother to do something like that for one vial or just take it and notify me a pagage was seized. Guess I'll never know.

My source has a great rep and I know his methods are sound so I've been real close many times to hitting the 'send' button for my 'ten-cent beginners order' but what I have to lose is more important. I'll be happier without and working from home than having to start over punching in everyday to a job I hate.

If I knew I would be such a pussy about this part of the real gear route, I'd have filled my kitchen cabinets with T-1 Pro before it was banned, LOL. :frustrate

Thanks for all the responses. :cheers:
 
CROWLER said:
IMO it was a good idea back about 5 to 10 years ago but the cops read these boards just like we do.


What would I suggest, CEE and Glutimine like I use. ;)
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LOL. But they're so boring ;)

My guess is that you pretty much believe any advice that has anything to do with recieving juice by mail is bad advice, eh? ;)
 
Yes, the whole "return to sender" is bogus. All the LE needs is to establish possession. If it is in your house, they have a case.

Seriously, everyone should pick up Collins' book, GREAT info.
 
jmh80 said:
Yes, the whole "return to sender" is bogus. All the LE needs is to establish possession. If it is in your house, they have a case.

Seriously, everyone should pick up Collins' book, GREAT info.
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They have an even better case if you did not clean house and find your stash!

I agree get Legal Muscle! I have a feeling the government is going to launch a big campaign, to save our children from the Steroid epidemic!
 
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