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Doc's Diagnosis: Swoliosis

I didn't realize you were black/mixed from your avi. This is good man! Coming from a totally personal view here, look at all the Mr. Olympia & Arnold Winners. There's a lot more black guys, & they usually get bigger or look better than everyone else. I've known several guys personally who ate like crap, barely lifted, & didn't touch a supp besides protein & had more muscle than me & abs and everything barely trying. What'd they have in common besides investing very little & no AAS? They were black. I had a buddy once who could have seriously had a shot at light heavyweight if he'd wanted to get serious at all about diet/training & start using gear. I think on average I notice more better-built black/mixed guys than any other race. And we both know success in bodybuilding means having the genetics for it. Look at the difference between Tony Freeman & Dennis Wolf. Both sick as f*k. But Freeman's core looks worlds better IMHO. Coleman, Haney, Levrone.

You feel me? My opinion may be super racist, but it's my opinion & I'm entitled to it. I remember the first time I saw Brandon Curry on a BSN ad. I knew I'd never get there, but I still loved what I saw. You could be that guy someday, Doc.
 
Hyde said:
I didn't realize you were black/mixed from your avi. This is good man! Coming from a totally personal view here, look at all the Mr. Olympia & Arnold Winners. There's a lot more black guys, & they usually get bigger or look better than everyone else. I've known several guys personally who ate like crap, barely lifted, & didn't touch a supp besides protein & had more muscle than me & abs and everything barely trying. What'd they have in common besides investing very little & no AAS? They were black. I had a buddy once who could have seriously had a shot at light heavyweight if he'd wanted to get serious at all about diet/training & start using gear. I think on average I notice more better-built black/mixed guys than any other race. And we both know success in bodybuilding means having the genetics for it. Look at the difference between Tony Freeman & Dennis Wolf. Both sick as f*k. But Freeman's core looks worlds better IMHO. Coleman, Haney, Levrone.

You feel me? My opinion may be super racist, but it's my opinion & I'm entitled to it. I remember the first time I saw Brandon Curry on a BSN ad. I knew I'd never get there, but I still loved what I saw. You could be that guy someday, Doc.
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Honestly all my buddies who r white say the same thing lol. Idt its racist at all, just a common observation. I think it has to do with ancestry and the fact that most African Americans were very hard laborers and this developed their bodies. Even going back to Africa, everything was done manually and there was no time to sit around so their activity levels were very high. This combined with all natural whole foods promoted favorable physiques.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Honestly all my buddies who r white say the same thing lol. Idt its racist at all, just a common observation. I think it has to do with ancestry and the fact that most African Americans were very hard laborers and this developed their bodies. Even going back to Africa, everything was done manually and there was no time to sit around so their activity levels were very high. This combined with all natural whole foods promoted favorable physiques.
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Yeah you lucky guys!
 
It's definitely not fair...

In my family my dad has the superior genetics and my mom has the typical European Jewish genetics. Thick bottoms, bad cholesterol, and high blood pressure. My mom is the biggest health freak. She trains and eats very well yet she has terrible cholesterol an HBP. She also can rid her self of thy belly fat....I adopted these genetics unfortunately :(

My dad and my sister eat whatever the f**k they want, thy don't exercise, and their ripped!!!! Not fair!
 
technique88 said:
It's definitely not fair...

In my family my dad has the superior genetics and my mom has the typical European Jewish genetics. Thick bottoms, bad cholesterol, and high blood pressure. My mom is the biggest health freak. She trains and eats very well yet she has terrible cholesterol an HBP. She also can rid her self of thy belly fat....I adopted these genetics unfortunately :(

My dad and my sister eat whatever the f**k they want, thy don't exercise, and their ripped!!!! Not fair!
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Yeah that's tough. U have to work that much harder when u already work harder than most ppl.
 
technique88 said:
It's unreal how fast and easy I put on fat. If I eat bad for 2 weeks I turn into the Michelin Man.
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Right there with you. My dad's fam is fat. My moms fam has long skinny limbs and tiny joints. I gotta eat damn good otherwise I'm a blimp. Least I got tiny joins so I always look big.
 
superbeast668 said:
Right there with you. My dad's fam is fat. My moms fam has long skinny limbs and tiny joints. I gotta eat damn good otherwise I'm a blimp. Least I got tiny joins so I always look big.
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This more or less describes me. I have a small, thin frame @ 5'10'' & am naturally skinny fat. Lil hands, lil wrists, put on fat way easy. When my parents went thru a divorce when I was 8 my mom started feeding us straight junk & I was 200lbs @ 10yrs old. Cut back to 160 in highschool but dayumn. Never really seen my abs all the way. Always felt like I've had moobs my whole life, & gyno is always a concern for me now - my estrogen & prolactin skyrockets if I even look at dienelone & such.

The only upside to all this is I have big glutes & thighs naturally, so I can out-deadlift almost every guy in the gym, nor do I have to bust my ass to put on leg mass. I got that Branch-Warren Syndrome ;)
 
Hyde said:
This more or less describes me. I have a small, thin frame @ 5'10'' & am naturally skinny fat. Lil hands, lil wrists, put on fat way easy. When my parents went thru a divorce when I was 8 my mom started feeding us straight junk & I was 200lbs @ 10yrs old. Cut back to 160 in highschool but dayumn. Never really seen my abs all the way. Always felt like I've had moobs my whole life, & gyno is always a concern for me now - my estrogen & prolactin skyrockets if I even look at dienelone & such.

The only upside to all this is I have big glutes & thighs naturally, so I can out-deadlift almost every guy in the gym, nor do I have to bust my ass to put on leg mass. I got that Branch-Warren Syndrome ;)
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You ever think of surgery for gyno? I wonder if that would remove a lot of the actual tissue that receives estrogen? I mean if I ever get it to the point that am a SERM and AI don't erase it, then it's definitely on my list! Even the small stuff I get when I don't control estrogen cause me some mental issues. More self-conscious or something. But I got lucky with my grandfather on my mom's side genetics. He's 90 and officially retired for only 2 years. His dad lived to 105 and they neither one can get fat. Idk about the longevity gene but I seemed to pick up the metabolism part. I don't think I gain muscle as easy as some guys though.
 
I may have surgery someday, but no money or time for it now. I'd rather shred up first to a point where I can see where I'm really at with muscle/titty/fat.
 
Hyde said:
This more or less describes me. I have a small, thin frame @ 5'10'' & am naturally skinny fat. Lil hands, lil wrists, put on fat way easy. When my parents went thru a divorce when I was 8 my mom started feeding us straight junk & I was 200lbs @ 10yrs old. Cut back to 160 in highschool but dayumn. Never really seen my abs all the way. Always felt like I've had moobs my whole life, & gyno is always a concern for me now - my estrogen & prolactin skyrockets if I even look at dienelone & such. The only upside to all this is I have big glutes & thighs naturally, so I can out-deadlift almost every guy in the gym, nor do I have to bust my ass to put on leg mass. I got that Branch-Warren Syndrome ;)
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Lol I'm top heavy as fuk. I prd banded squats at 365 today... You've seen my bench #'s. They're getting out of control I'm gonna gun for 3 wheel inclines tomorrow.

My moobs are why I'm giving test one more shot before I remove it from all future cycles or leave it very low- low TRT low.
 
superbeast668 said:
Lol I'm top heavy as fuk. I prd banded squats at 365 today... You've seen my bench #'s. They're getting out of control I'm gonna gun for 3 wheel inclines tomorrow.

My moobs are why I'm giving test one more shot before I remove it from all future cycles or leave it very low- low TRT low.
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Careful. Dude I work with tore his rotator cuff maxing 345 on incline. Just saying that it can be a dangerous exercise to fully max. Stay tight & use a spotter so you don't let the bar get out of line.

Sorry for de-railing here, Doc!
 
Hyde said:
Careful. Dude I work with tore his rotator cuff maxing 345 on incline. Just saying that it can be a dangerous exercise to fully max. Stay tight & use a spotter so you don't let the bar get out of line. Sorry for de-railing here, Doc!
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Lol work sets bro...I don't believe in maxing out. I shoot for hypertrophy... I gave up on maxing when I popped my groin squatting in highschool and tore my labrum in my shoulder. If I can't do 6-10 it's too heavy. Appreciate the concern though. Good looking out.
 
Lol u guys r good. I did arms 2day at the gym including shoulders, it was a high rep day and I f*cking killed it. The pump was retarded and I noticed I'm leaning out.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Lol u guys r good. I did arms 2day at the gym including shoulders, it was a high rep day and I f*cking killed it. The pump was retarded and I noticed I'm leaning out.
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Best part about working out arms is that you feel like the f**king man! Both bi and tri pumped to the max feels good! Can't wait to see how that EQ treats you.
 
Good luck Doc, subbed for some sweet swoliosis.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Scared my body will eat itself up lol. My metabolism is ridiculous already.
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I don't think you'd have to worry about that. It's not that crazy intense.

The reason why you see such dramatic loss in muscle mass with hyperthyroid patients is because they are sick. Their thyroid vales are going all over the place creating a very unstable environment in the body. In addition there is usually another disease causing this or was caused by a very unstable thyroid.

Bodybuilders run T3 at hearty doses, however it is still controlled and stable dosing. Also, you aren't sick, you are eating enough to support your physique.

Another note is that naturally and physiologically, your body will burn fat before muscle. As long as you are I a healthy state and eating enough I don't see any muscle loss.
 
technique88 said:
I don't think you'd have to worry about that. It's not that crazy intense.

The reason why you see such dramatic loss in muscle mass with hyperthyroid patients is because they are sick. Their thyroid vales are going all over the place creating a very unstable environment in the body. In addition there is usually another disease causing this or was caused by a very unstable thyroid.

Bodybuilders run T3 at hearty doses, however it is still controlled and stable dosing. Also, you aren't sick, you are eating enough to support your physique.

Another note is that naturally and physiologically, your body will burn fat before muscle. As long as you are I a healthy state and eating enough I don't see any muscle loss.
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I'll experiment with it. How much would u say and how long?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
I'll experiment with it. How much would u say and how long?
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Start with 25 mcg and gauge from there. You could run 25mcg for 3 months straight or ramp it up to 50 mcg and possibly run it for only 2 months.

I think 25mcg of T3 with ECA will melt the fat off of you.
 
technique88 said:
Start with 25 mcg and gauge from there. You could run 25mcg for 3 months straight or ramp it up to 50 mcg and possibly run it for only 2 months.

I think 25mcg of T3 with ECA will melt the fat off of you.
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I'll do 25mcg ED. I'll get some now. Does it matter what time I dose it?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
I'll do 25mcg ED. I'll get some now. Does it matter what time I dose it?
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i've always dosed in the am. seems like it'd pick up metabolism through out the day. i fast at night. if i eat more protein when i wake up to piss i'l have to piss 18 more times which is counter productive to sleep.
 
superbeast668 said:
i've always dosed in the am. seems like it'd pick up metabolism through out the day. i fast at night. if i eat more protein when i wake up to piss i'l have to piss 18 more times which is counter productive to sleep.
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Aight am dosing sounds good. I'll get on that. Cutting starts exactly next Monday.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Aight am dosing sounds good. I'll get on that. Cutting starts exactly next Monday.
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Dose it first thing in the morning. You need to have an extremely empty stomach because certain things effect absorption. I would set your alarm 1 hour before you actually get up, take it really quick and go back to sleep.

You'll love it dude. I don't think I've heard of anyone complain of any side effects. Just fat loss. No cracked feeling, no shakes, nothing.

Like I said before, the muscle loss will not be a problem.
 
superbeast668 said:
Lol I'm top heavy as fuk. I prd banded squats at 365 today... You've seen my bench #'s. They're getting out of control I'm gonna gun for 3 wheel inclines tomorrow. My moobs are why I'm giving test one more shot before I remove it from all future cycles or leave it very low- low TRT low.
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Hydizzle. I fukin' nailed it. 315x5+1 force rep incline pressed 3/4 rep (just shy of lockout to keep more TUT).


Totally agree with tech on the t3. I'm on week 3. Feel good. Gaining like a beast. Fat down bw up.
 
superbeast668 said:
Hydizzle. I fukin' nailed it. 315x5+1 force rep incline pressed 3/4 rep (just shy of lockout to keep more TUT).


Totally agree with tech on the t3. I'm on week 3. Feel good. Gaining like a beast. Fat down bw up.
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That's sick man. I haven't even benched 315 without someone putting their hands on the bar yet, & that's flat lol.

You guys make me pretty interested in T3; never looked into it. How does it compare to Clen or Albuterol?
 
Never used either btw; but they sound like they're not for me. I don't like heavy sweating or jitters; same reason why I can't run much yohimbine at all. I just kinda hate it.
 
Hyde said:
Never used either btw; but they sound like they're not for me. I don't like heavy sweating or jitters; same reason why I can't run much yohimbine at all. I just kinda hate it.
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I'm pretty stim sensitive. Clen albut yohimbine, all out of the question. T3 really hasn't given me any sides that I've noticed. Maybe a lil warm but that may be trendione.
 
technique88 said:
Dose it first thing in the morning. You need to have an extremely empty stomach because certain things effect absorption. I would set your alarm 1 hour before you actually get up, take it really quick and go back to sleep.

You'll love it dude. I don't think I've heard of anyone complain of any side effects. Just fat loss. No cracked feeling, no shakes, nothing.

Like I said before, the muscle loss will not be a problem.
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Aight I'm ordering it tonight. I'm gonna do ECA twice a day too.
 
Hyde said:
Never used either btw; but they sound like they're not for me. I don't like heavy sweating or jitters; same reason why I can't run much yohimbine at all. I just kinda hate it.
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Yohimbine at just the right dose feels awesome for me, but if I go a little to high I get kinda nauseous, and get alternately hot then cold. It reminds me of how Prami is minus the fatigue.
 
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