Dmz/stano/trest log

As I'm wrapping up this cycle (about a week left) I'm going to switch to training a bit less frequently (lift 4x a week) with a day of loaded carries/abs/kettlebell/circuit training/med ball.

Going to go from cals at TDEE to about a 500 cal deficit in PCT (with osta on board).
 
Pct includes HCGenerate, have you ran it before?

I wanted to give it a go but can't really justify the cost, is it worth it?
 
Today: 246

Dmz 75, trest 150

Strength workout.

Bench press

3 x 355

3 x 375

8 x 405

5 x 155 x 5 incline db

2 x 150 x 8 flat db
 
Thanks guys, workout felt good today, was doing 3 @ 70, 80, and 3+ at 90% 5/3/1 style and got 8!

Btw I made the mistake of taking tr3st 3 at a time today; don't do that, bad idea lol
 
I'm in! :D
 
Weight 245

Dmz 60 trest 125 (running out of caps)

Today interesting workout:

5x5 bench at 355
Drop set incline hammer
70 8 reps, 4 half reps, 60 6 reps, 50 8 reps 4 half reps
Superset 50 lb curls, 8 reverse, 8 concentration, 8 regular, 8 hammer
Skulls drop set into close grip bench 135 x 18, 40
21 with 110 lb ez curl bar
Tricep pushdown pull apart drop set into straight down pushdowns 200 lb, 20 reps,10 reps

Lowered cals a lot this week.
 
It's ok, I'm almost out so backing off for the last two days of cycle to 100 mg. I ran it at 150 for a couple weeks, it was good as long as I didn't take it 75 mg at a time. That gave me some headaches.

I'm transitioning to a slow cut now through pct.
 
Any differences felt between the two different trest products you took or basically the same?
 
It's hard to say; I dosed the Oly tr3st higher, but I can't say I noticed much difference. Both were really ancillary to my dmz anyways.

No energy or libido problems with either.
 
Last day of cycle. Pct will be:

1 week of cycle assist
Osta 10 mg
Novla 20/20/10/10
Formeron 2 pumps/day
Arimistane 100 mg/day
(Will run both AIs 2-3 weeks past end of pct)
DAA 3g
Hcgenerate
Anabeta elite
Cissus
Follidrone 4 caps/day
Forskolin 50 mg/day
Green tea 4 caps/day
Fish oil 8g/day
Vitamins
Creatine 30g/day
Xgels
Phosphatidic acid

Hope to keep all muscle and lose a few lb of body fat. Will keep calories at 300-500 less than TDEE, which is 3625. I think 3250 calories seems reasonable.

Split will be 55p/25c/20f
 
Brief cycle summary:

8 week total. 1 week stano only, 2 weeks stano + trest, 1 week dmz/stano/trest, 4 weeks dmz/stano/trest/furaza. I also ran Follidrone.

Cycle starting weight: 231 lb
Cycle ending weight: 244 lb

Bf starting 15%, ending 13%.

It's hard to assess how much strength I gained, but at the beginning of the cycle I was doing 130 dumbbells for 8 and I did 155 for 8 at the end.
 
Mystere3 said:
Brief cycle summary:

8 week total. 1 week stano only, 2 weeks stano + trest, 1 week dmz/stano/trest, 4 weeks dmz/stano/trest/furaza.

Cycle starting weight: 231 lb
Cycle ending weight: 244 lb

Bf
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Gained 13lbs....sweet:)
 
Back day a couple days ago:

Face pulls 250 x 8 x 2
Lat pull down 300 x 8 x 2
Rear delt pec deck 200 x 8 x 2
Seated shrug machine 360 x 8 x 2
One arm row 150 x 8 x 2
Hammer strength high row 450 x 8 x 2
Hs low row 450 x 8 x 2
Cable row 300 x 8 x 2

Today: weight 243

Light shoulders, no spotter today

Db shoulder press 100 x 15 x 2
Db seated front raise and lat raise superset 50 x 15 x 2
Db shrug 150 x 15 x 2
Smith military press 275 x 15 x 2
Hammer strength incline press 270 x 15 x 2
Drop set to:
Hammer strength shoulder press 180 x 15 x 2
Seated shrug 360 x 15 x 2

Crazy doms with xgels.

Day 2 of pct, no sides.
 
Mystere3 said:
Back day a couple days ago:

Face pulls 250 x 8 x 2
Lat pull down 300 x 8 x 2
Rear delt pec deck 200 x 8 x 2
Seated shrug machine 360 x 8 x 2
One arm row 150 x 8 x 2
Hammer strength high row 450 x 8 x 2
Hs low row 450 x 8 x 2
Cable row 300 x 8 x 2

Today: weight 243

Light shoulders, no spotter today

Db shoulder press 100 x 15 x 2
Db seated front raise and lat raise superset 50 x 15 x 2
Db shrug 150 x 15 x 2
Smith military press 275 x 15 x 2
Hammer strength incline press 270 x 15 x 2
Drop set to:
Hammer strength shoulder press 180 x 15 x 2
Seated shrug 360 x 15 x 2

Crazy doms with xgels.

Day 2 of pct, no sides.
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You're probably one of the strongest guys on here! Super insane weights!
 
Thanks! I try to get a good workout in! Today was a little rushed and limited bc of time and no spotter but I made up for it with volume and got riduc pumps!
 
Gonna take about 4 months off after this cycle, with maybe a month of osta in there 3 months out.

Thinking next cycle will be a 4 weeker:

Msten 28 mg
Dimethylandrostenol 26 mg
Trest 100/100/125/125 mg
 
So plan is recomp level calories (maybe 300 less than TDEE) during pct with no stims other than pwo; maybe a few non-stim fat burners like compound 20 and alpha t2, then prolly move on to a more stim focused stack for cutting with ECA.

Goal is to ideally drop 1% bf this month and 1-2% more next month to get back into single digits; we'll see how it goes.

I'll prolly stay away from albuterol and t3 this time, gonna stick to OTC for this cut.

Workout will be the same, a mix of volume training, high intensity training, and 5x5 5/3/1.

I will keep using forskolin, abe, Follidrone, and xgels, and I have one bottle of phosphatidic acid I'll use once pct is over.
 
Weight 243.2

Today was an extra workout day, decided to focus on lagging body parts, biceps and rear delts with hit style workout.

"21" with 110 lb ez curl bar:

7 reps top rom
7 reps full rom
7 reps bottom rom
9 more full reps to failure.

Lateral raise drop set:
60 x 18
50 x 8
40 x 8
30 x 16
20 x 22

Incline hammer curl drop set:
60 lb 8 full, 4 half reps
50 lb 6 full
40 8 full 4 half

Rear delt on incline bench drop set:
19 x 40. 12 x 30, 8 x 20

Superset: 50 lb, 8 conc curls, 8 reverse grip curls, 8 curls, 8 cross body hammer curls

Standing leaning away one arm lateral raise drop set: 50 x 22, 40 x 10, 30 x 8.

Preacher curl machine: 100 x 18, 55 x 32

Great pump!

I don't think I realized what my capacity with the lateral raises are, I should increase the weight next time.

My middle and rear delts are def lagging compared to front delts, so I'm gonna work on hitting them hard this next month or two, in addition to lots of abs.

I'd like to slowly cut back to about 230 while keeping most of my muscle mass. That'll put me at about 9-10% which is my goal; I don't think lower bf% is sustainable with my lifestyle.
 
Weight 242.6

Sort of ok workout today:

Flat bench:
335 x 3
365 x 3
405 x 8.5 (couldn't quite get 9 without a spot)

Incline db:
160 x 8 x 2 (pr)

Flat db:
150 x 8
160 x 0 (couldn't get the db into position :( )

Incline hammer strength drop set:
360 x 30 (pr)
270 x 11
180 x 8
90 x 21

Pissed about that flat db.
 
Mystere3 said:
Weight 242.6

Sort of ok workout today:

Flat bench:
335 x 3
365 x 3
405 x 8.5 (couldn't quite get 9 without a spot)

Incline db:
160 x 8 x 2 (pr)

Flat db:
150 x 8
160 x 0 (couldn't get the db into position :( )

Incline hammer strength drop set:
360 x 30 (pr)
270 x 11
180 x 8
90 x 21

Pissed about that flat db.
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Ahhhh.. Don't be! Looks like you had a great session! :) super strong!
 
The frustrating thing about heavy dbs is it's hard to get them in position. Incline is easier for some reason.
 
Mystere3 said:
The frustrating thing about heavy dbs is it's hard to get them in position. Incline is easier for some reason.
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Like you couldn't grip it well?
 
Mystere3 said:
No it's just unwieldy bc the dumbbell weighs 2/3 of my body weight.
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It's ok, you still tried. Do you have a spotter when you lift this heavy?
 
Mystere3 said:
Weight 242.6 Sort of ok workout today: Flat bench: 335 x 3 365 x 3 405 x 8.5 (couldn't quite get 9 without a spot) Incline db: 160 x 8 x 2 (pr) Flat db: 150 x 8 160 x 0 (couldn't get the db into position :( ) Incline hammer strength drop set: 360 x 30 (pr) 270 x 11 180 x 8 90 x 21 Pissed about that flat db.
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At least u didn't do so bad on incline , lol...
Get it together bro! Ha ha....
;)
Hopefully next time......
 
puccah8808 said:
It's ok, you still tried. Do you have a spotter when you lift this heavy?
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Yeah but she can't lift the dbs to me, I was just tired from previous sets. The last drop set was cool tho. Next time I'll start with more weight.

The limiting factor with heavy dbs is wrist/forearm strength, not chest.
 
Mystere3 said:
Yeah but she can't lift the dbs to me, I was just tired from previous sets. The last drop set was cool tho. Next time I'll start with more weight.

The limiting factor with heavy dbs is wrist/forearm strength, not chest.
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That's a good idea. :)
 
There's a way to bring the weights down to prevent that issue, you sorta bring them up while you're bringing them down, I need to do that next time, was tired tho haha.
 
Mystere3 said:
There's a way to bring the weights down to prevent that issue, you sorta bring them up while you're bringing them down, I need to do that next time, was tired tho haha.
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What do you mean being them up while bringing them down? Do you wear wrist straps?
 
No def not, you don't want to be strapped to heavy dbs, you want to drop them if you can't lift them. That's a good way to tear your rotator cuff. If you lose one and you're strapped to the other one you're going to fall off the bench.

You kick them up and while you're coming down you push up so you have the dbs in the locked out position when you're flat on the bench. I usually do flat db with my feet up.
 
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