DMZ 3.0 Stack preparation.

hecjr75

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A little info about me. 5'11. Weigh 185 lbs. Been lifting/training for a good 3 years already. Always been a big (but not strong) guy. I finally made it under the 200lb mark about 2 months ago which was a huge accomplishment for me considering my starting weight 3 years ago was 254.

After much thought I've decided to run a STACK by IronmagLabs begininng next year.

So far what I have laid out is:
Super-DMZ Rx week 1-4
4-Andro Rx week 1-4
Ultra Male Rx week 5-8
Advanced Cycle week 1-8
E-Control Rx week 5-8 (or 6-9 just so it lasts longer than PCT)
Nolva week 5-8 (can't decide whether 40/40/20/20 or 20/20/10/10)
And 3 grams of DAA week 5-8.

My main concerns atm would be help with my Nolva dosage and if any veterans out there can look over and help me with any suggestions/details I may have over or under looked.

Diet will consist of a CKD with carb reload on the weekends.

Supplements include:
Whey isolate
creatine
Abcuts
Multivitamin
Ocassional pre workout when it's been a long day

Thank you in advance for any knowledge you are willing to share with me!
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Horrible for a new guy, I read this wrong I thought this was 3.0
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Thank you for your feedback. What would you change personally about the cycle? Just trying to get the best out of it. Also would you agree with the nolva at 40/40/20/20 or 20/20/10/10.?
Thanks.
 
Run a simple cycle like dmz or msten solo. That product you picked has several in it. Than just get some cel cycle assist and a serm for pct with sns DAA
 
Thanks once again for the info.
So in terms of rewriting the stack it should be on the lines of

M-sten week 1-4

Followed by
nolva 20/20/10/10 week 5-8
DAA week 5-8

as for the cycle assist would you run it all through weeks 1-8 or just 5-8?
 
hecjr75 said:
Thanks once again for the info.
So in terms of rewriting the stack it should be on the lines of

M-sten week 1-4

Followed by
nolva 20/20/10/10 week 5-8
DAA week 5-8

as for the cycle assist would you run it all through weeks 1-8 or just 5-8?
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I would definitely run cycle assist weeks 1-8. If your looking for the best on cycle support heres our top 5 over at strong supplement shop Invalid Link Removed
 
have you started this cycle yet? im running DMZ right now. im 10 days in and not impressed by it too much yet.
 
clk said:
have you started this cycle yet? im running DMZ right now. im 10 days in and not impressed by it too much yet.
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Brand? Diet? It has been only 10 days so I'd give it a bit more time. I pulled off a solid 9lbs after a 4 week run
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Brand? Diet? It has been only 10 days so I'd give it a bit more time. I pulled off a solid 9lbs after a 4 week run
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its ironmaglabs. im trying to gain strength with no thought on aesthetics at this point. im bringing in a little over 4500 calories a day. ive been gaining about 1 pound a week. i started this cycle in hopes of gaining more strength. so far though, i have not gained or felt anything. no sides. no gains.

how long would you say it took you to notice anything? i took a cycle of mdrol and p plex (by competitive edge labs) back in 2008 before it was banned. this is only my second cycle. and im taking it solo.
 
Well you shouldn't expect those crazy of results! Those were too very strong compounds. I'd say after the two week mark strength did rocket up. How is your training programming?
 
oh i know lol im in no way expecting anything similar to that cycle. although that cycle was intense, it came at a price. did you stick to 20MG a day? or did you up the dose at all? ran it solo? my training is basically a 5x5 program with a few tweaks. i train at metroflex in houston. so im doing the 5x5 with deadlifts added in. also have a strongman training day. i have been sticking to heavy weight, low rep scheme for about 8 months now. however, the gains slowed down about 6 weeks go. so i am now adding a week of hypertrophy training every other week. the gains started coming back after that small tweak. right now my biggest challenge is eating more. im an ectomorph. i have to seriously shovel food down my face. its nuts.
 
its suggested to take two caps a day. (20mg total) however, i upped the dose 3 days ago. im now taking three caps a day. (30mg)
 
20mg is low. Not sure why it would only recommend that amount. I would say 40 is the sweet spot for most.
 
ill bump it to two am and two in the pm. see what happens.
 
hecjr75 said:
Thanks once again for the info.
So in terms of rewriting the stack it should be on the lines of

M-sten week 1-4

Followed by
nolva 20/20/10/10 week 5-8
DAA week 5-8

as for the cycle assist would you run it all through weeks 1-8 or just 5-8?
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Preload your cycle support at least a week ahead of time just to give your liver a head start. It's not absolutely necessary, but recommended. Plans for DAA dosing? 3.12 grams/day is where you should be IMO.
 
Most of the time people start their cycle support because of the spike in bp with Hawthorne berry.

If you read around online, on guides and whatnot especially the bible of designers, people start with 30mg and go 5-6 weeks. Experienced users dabble in 45mg. I see people here running dmz at crazy doses, it also depends on your size
 
clk said:
its suggested to take two caps a day. (20mg total) however, i upped the dose 3 days ago. im now taking three caps a day. (30mg)
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They give a low recommended dose for safety and legal reasons.
 
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