What's the best still available? Looking for something that is as close as possible to OG Kraken!
OG Kraken is still out there. I just got some last month..What's the best still available? Looking for something that is as close as possible to OG Kraken!
Pm’dI still have 1, maybe 2 tubs of OG Kraken if you're interested in buying?
Yeah there are a few different ways companies list itAren't there many different ways of listing dmha?
Yep and one of them is Kigelia Africana extract if I'm not mistaken Repp Sports uses it theirAren't there many different ways of listing dmha?
Yeah that and J. Regia are both supposed to contain DMHA. There’s also different chemical names they’ll use.Yep and one of them is Kigelia Africana extract if I'm not mistaken
There is NO DMHA in Mesomorph and since you were at Suppz you could of picked up Kraken causeI use Kraken with DMHA and it is pretty good. I just received 2 containers of Mesomorph yesterday and I swear that the Suppz website said it has Dmha in it, but the label makes no reference to having DMHA, so I guess I was suckered.
Seconded on the Wild for sure. My local store still carries the Juggernaut Irate which has DMAA in it. Sorry, know you’re looking for DMHA but that Irate is nice tooJuggernaut Wild or OG Arez White DMHA if you can find it.
I have never seen a single bit of literature to suggest 2-amino-6-methylheptane is present in J.Regia?Yeah that and J. Regia are both supposed to contain DMHA. There’s also different chemical names they’ll use.
I have never seen a single bit of literature to suggest 2-amino-6-methylheptane is present in J.Regia?
That article is factually incorrect. haha natural and synthetic - they are different compounds.https://www.researchedsupplements.com/dmha-juglans-regia-octodrine
These days, you’re likely to see bodybuilding supplement manufacturers label it as Juglans Regia, a naturally occurring source of DMHA. However, the synthetic DMHA is much cheaper to produce.
There’s always the obvious question as to whether it’s the synthetic drug or natural extract being used in the supplements.
The companies like it when there’s a natural source of these stimulants because it means they can argue semantics with the FDA for longer, and thus keep shifting the product (remember the DMAA – geranium kerfuffle?).
Structurally speaking, the natural and synthetic forms of DMHA are slightly different:
2-amino-5-methylheptane*–*natural2-amino-6-methylheptane*–*synthetic
The different form should be noted on the label of the supplement you purchase, but like I said, regulating that is tricky.
Excelsior has DMHA in it? I know it has octopamine, but isn’t that a different compound?Excelsior feels very potent as far as DMHA. The rest of the formula is slightly lacking, especially in the pump and endurance category. 1 scoop added to a half dose of something like RE1GN, CU, Quake 10.0, and likely OG Kraken is something to experience though IMO.
I have been meaning to get more Excelsior for this purpose..
It has both, Kigelia Africana extract is essentially DMHA..Excelsior has DMHA in it? I know it has octopamine, but isn’t that a different compound?
I think you are missing the point though. It's not just them that say this...it's a widely known fact all across the industry and EVERYONE refers to J Regia as "another form of dmha". I can give you link after link after link of different companies calling J regia, 2 methyl 5, DMHA.That article is factually incorrect. haha natural and synthetic - they are different compounds.
I did say they’re supposed to. Not that they necessarily do. I haven’t looked at the actual literature, I’ve never cared enough.I have never seen a single bit of literature to suggest 2-amino-6-methylheptane is present in J.Regia?
Gotcha. Yea, I had no idea!It has both, Kigelia Africana extract is essentially DMHA..
OG Arez White, RIP. I dont what was in that stuff but a full scoop would trigger my anxiety like no other. 3/4 scoop and I was totally fine and had a great ride. Such a fine line with that oneJuggernaut Wild or OG Arez White DMHA if you can find it.
I was just looking on juggernauts site and Irate lists DMHA. Am I missing something?My local store still carries the Juggernaut Irate which has DMAA in it. Sorry, know you’re looking for DMHA but that Irate is nice too
It's been reformulated and the DMAA has been removed but you can still find it with DMAAI was just looking on juggernauts site and Irate lists DMHA. Am I missing something?
Bring back the memories had a blast with jack3d as my first pre workout.i just bought the old JACK3D with dmaa here in greece
YOUR FIRST PRE WITH DMAA :O man you are braveBring back the memories had a blast with jack3d as my first pre workout.
last time I had a good ride was original release of re1gn dragon mist---I loved that stuff!!!OG Arez White, RIP. I dont what was in that stuff but a full scoop would trigger my anxiety like no other. 3/4 scoop and I was totally fine and had a great ride. Such a fine line with that one
When I had OG kraken it really didn’t do much in terms of the energy aspectAfter scouring Google, I found original Kraken, and got a couple jugs. Never used it, so excited to see the hype about it. Hopefully it isn't cemented together because of glycerol. Then it would he hard to mix all ingredients.
I had read about that issue. Some people got a scale out and measure that 2 scoops was lighter than the amount of grams supposed to be in a full serving. So they used the scale to measure the full serving rather than rely on 2 scoops. May explain why some didn't get much out of it.When I had OG kraken it really didn’t do much in terms of the energy aspect
And as the bottle went on it got less and less
Amp ESP is where it’s at
Thats exactly what it is. I have 2 tubs right now and it takes about 3 scoops to get the full 15g dose.I had read about that issue. Some people got a scale out and measure that 2 scoops was lighter than the amount of grams supposed to be in a full serving. So they used the scale to measure the full serving rather than rely on 2 scoops. May explain why some didn't get much out of it.
I tried that a few times and never noticed much for some reason. Need to try it again as that was a few months ago, thanks for the reminderRelentless Labz Activate is my jam right now
Really? With that profile? lol... interesting. That stuff gets me going! And the flavoring is very good as well!I tried that a few times and never noticed much for some reason. Need to try it again as that was a few months ago, thanks for the reminder
Use Google. Should be easy to find as ThermoLife has lawsuit against them lol.Where can I find these? I lucked up and was able to find an original formula of Kraken on Ebay, but all the others looks sketchy.
Lots of local supplement shops still carry the DMHA versions of Kraken and Total WarWhere can I find these? I lucked up and was able to find an original formula of Kraken on Ebay, but all the others looks sketchy.
My local shop sells Reign for 15 bucks.Lots of local supplement shops still carry the DMHA versions of Kraken and Total War