Dinosaur Muffins diced to the socks log

[DinosaurMuffins]

Alright boys and girls.....

Some of you might remember me from:

High Test / Low Tren / Tbol V.2 - AnabolicMinds.com

Alright, here it goes. Shout out to @Smont & @Hyde for some education on orals. Start date: 1/02/23 Current stats: 195lbs - 18%ish BF (38M) Goals: Recomp - Whatever that ends up at. Past compounds: Test E, Sustanon, Masteron, Tbol, Anavar, Dbol, Tren A Notes on past cycle: Been a long time...

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Dinosaur Muffin's Cruise/TRT - AnabolicMinds.com

Hi all, Again, I am starting a new log as my blast cycle is over. I learned a lot from that cycle. I learned I don't have many sides with AAS, which is what I experience prior when I cycled a few times about a decade ago. Getting blood work done from cycle to see where I land but a few...

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Well, now I introduce you to Dinosaur Muffins diced to the socks log.

Starting next week I plan on getting fucking ripped. I have been floating about 16-17%BF. Right no I probably am at 18% because I have eaten like **** for like 1.5 weeks and took some time off training. Kind of been fucking around.

Here is the plan to cut to 10%. Here is how I am going to do it: Semaglutide, Test, Tren, DHB, T3, Clen, Metformin

Weeks 1-12 450mg Test E (then go down to 200mg TRT)
Weeks 1 - 10 100mg Tren E (split into 3 mini doses)
Weeks 6 -10 200mg DHB (split into 3 mini doses)
Weeks 1 -12 Semaglutide (Stepped dosing protocol)
Weeks 1 - 3 25mcg T3
Weeks 4 -12 50mcg T3 (step down 1 month after on 25mcg)
Weeks 1 - 3 1000mg XR Metformin
Weeks 4 -12 2000mg XR Metformin
Weeks 1 - 3 40mcg Clen
Weeks 5 - 7 60mcg Clen
Weeks 9- 11 60mcg Clen

I plan on eating high protein and then basically whatever else I can stomach to get down but generally healthy.

Lifts will be 5 (45min sessions) hitting all major muscle groups
Cardio will be 45 mins 4-5x a week - fasted.

For some context. Running high tests to help starve muscle loss. Touch of Tren to help with nutrition partitioning and stave off muscle loss and a dab of DHB because I'd like to test this out and read about some synergetic effects with Tren.

T3 Everyone gets all excited when people talk about this and panties go right up their asses. I ran it up to 75mcg and it was not bad. I ran 50mcg for some time. My Free T3 was 5.8 which isn't bad out of range. The normal highest was 4.8. I feel it does way more than people give it credit. I also suffer from Hashimotos so that **** (my thyroid) wasn't working great before anyhow. 50mcg is where it's at for me IMO.

Semaglutide - yes the miracle drug.... (kidding but kind of not). I plan to use it for obvious reasons. Cheat code my way down on weight. My source has this **** for cheap as **** and has had testing on each batch. Really pumped over this for various reasons, From better insulin sensitivity long-term and short to lowering BP, Lower Cholesterol, etc.

Clen - really liked running low dose clen from last cycle. With T3 and Tren, changes happened fast.

Metformin - Well read a lot about this. With Semaglutide it does some magic. Will watch blood sugar as I am concerned about too low.

This is my Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A code for getting diced to the socks.

I will be monitoring BP every morning checking my blood sugar daily, and monitoring my heart rate.

My the would be end of year an NPP/Test/Mast Bulking cycle.

Edit* Adjust test E from 600mg to 450mg. Will adjust up if needed.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

I ran labs Yesterday prior to starting this blast. (got back results same day)

After my last blast, I had some raised liver enzymes from the Tbol/maybe Tren. I also had slightly higher blood pressure. After 11-12 weeks all levels returned to normal and in fact better than the baseline was. Probably because of overall weight loss. Liver function is excellent, and Kidney function actually improved. Blood pressure is normal. Thyroid function recovered after taking 5 months of T3 which ranged from 25mcg to 75mcg. That is my baseline since I have Hashimotos.

I feel I am good to go on this cycle.

Started upping test today to 150mg MWF, started 25mcg of T3 so I have time to ramp.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Few updates.

My DHB gave basically 0 pip. Which was unexpected. Trying a new vendor out that has my board all in love. He posts test results with every batch. The dude also lives in the next city over which is wild. So I get my **** in a day (national source on the board, not a local guy)

Already starting to experience some sides of Tren. 3 hours sleep last night. Also bad headache this morning. I remember at the beginning I had like 2 nights in a row like that and then **** mellowed out. Hopely the same this time. I also am already seeing an increase in sexual desire. Which I honestly love. Just still working on the wife actually giving it to me.

Weight starting is 191. I haven't started Semaglutide yet. It will be a few more days. Same with Metformin.

So running a week of 300mg tren e, 350mg test e, 50mcg T3, clen 40mcg.

Checking BP daily. It's in good shape.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Captains log

Did a preload half week (as I always do) upped TRT to 450 (Test E) Treen E @300mg and DHB @100mg.

T3 at 50mcg and clen at 40mcg ( noticed resting heart rate was too high. so dropped clen and down dosed to 25mcg to t3 until things leveled off) Ran similar dosage before without issue. Maybe too much at once.

Have noticed backacne is coming in more than previously. I didn't do much AI because my test wasn't that high. Going to mess around with this. Will keep an eye on this.

Here are the changes I made

Weeks 1-12 300mg Test E (then go down to 200mg TRT)
Weeks 1 - 10 300mg Tren E (split into 2 mini doses)
Weeks 1 -10 200mg DHB (split into 2 mini doses)
Weeks 2 -12 Semaglutide (Stepped dosing protocol)
Weeks 1 - 3 25mcg T3
Weeks 4 -12 50mcg T3 (step down 1 month after on 25mcg)
Weeks 2 - 4 1000mg XR Metformin
Weeks 5 -12 2000mg XR Metformin

 

[Hyde]

Have you ever ran Metformin before, or that high? If not, be prepared to adjust. Many get gut issues at doses like 2g, or appetite can get hit too much. Especially with Semaglutide posing the same potential (GI distress, crushed appetite, low blood sugar).

DHB can drive hunger, which is a good counterbalance to the above, BUT it does this through greatly improved insulin sensitivity and…lowered blood sugar. So you really do need to watch blood sugar with all these at play.

Also, 200mg of DHB is not a trivial dose - it’s more anabolic than Tren per mg, and beyond that the neurological upregulation is for real. It can make you very edgy, intense, quick on the trigger - both metaphorically & very literally. This drug is used for things like power sports/track & field, chess, e-sports, marksmanship - power or focus-based things. 150mg was too much in my stack last year; I had to back down to 100mg because it was making me too explosive/aggressive/argumentative. I’m not really sure why you have it in a cutting stack that includes Tren; it’s generally seen in preps where guys don’t want to use Tren but want something dry & very anabolic to substitute.

Use choline supplementation while using DHB. It dials your brain up a couple notches & that has a cost that needs to be paid. It can make you anxious.

 

[Jeremyk1]

You show DHB starting week 6, but you’re already using it? I’m confused.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

You show DHB starting week 6, but you’re already using it? I’m confused.

Good call I am running it 1 -10 @200mg. Was just a typo.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Have you ever ran Metformin before, or that high? If not, be prepared to adjust. Many get gut issues at doses like 2g, or appetite can get hit too much. Especially with Semaglutide posing the same potential (GI distress, crushed appetite, low blood sugar).

DHB can drive hunger, which is a good counterbalance to the above, BUT it does this through greatly improved insulin sensitivity and…lowered blood sugar. So you really do need to watch blood sugar with all these at play.

Also, 200mg of DHB is not a trivial dose - it’s more anabolic than Tren per mg, and beyond that the neurological upregulation is for real. It can make you very edgy, intense, quick on the trigger - both metaphorically & very literally. This drug is used for things like power sports/track & field, chess, e-sports, marksmanship - power or focus-based things. 150mg was too much in my stack last year; I had to back down to 100mg because it was making me too explosive/aggressive/argumentative. I’m not really sure why you have it in a cutting stack that includes Tren; it’s generally seen in preps where guys don’t want to use Tren but want something dry & very anabolic to substitute.

Use choline supplementation while using DHB. It dials your brain up a couple notches & that has a cost that needs to be paid. It can make you anxious.

So Metformin.. Absolutely on board with what you are daying. No, I have not run it before. I do understand this could get me low blood sugar and will be checking it daily. Also, if I can stick to 1000mg I am good with that. I would rather run it lower for longer as long as its giving me the results/or is what I need for stable levels. I am good with GI distress as semaglutide is going to slow pooping down. Maybe counterbalance? Crushed appetite is fine. I want to go low calorie as I can go with maintaining muscle, hence the tren and DHB.

I read several threads (not here) about DHB and tren combo. Seems to have a synergic effect. Seen some crazy results. Here is one but he ran that **** way higher. https://www.tmuscle.co.uk/threads/cutting-test-tren-dhb.34984/

I think the increase focus and aggression would be good to overcome some of the lack of calories. Maybe I am wrong.


Side note. My tren is 400mg tren/ml and the pip is unfucking real. I can't even inject in my shoulders. I have to do glutes. Oddly enough the DHB is fine.

At the end of the day here are the things I will say.

I am monitoring my heart: BP, heart rate
My blood sugar: daily
Aggression and assholishness: learned a lot from last time and feel better about what is real and what is not but I will back off as I see signs I don't like.

 

[SkRaw85]

400mg tren per ml? Sounds corrosive.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

400mg tren per ml? Sounds corrosive.

Yeah **** is harsh. I did .25 in each shoulder last week and I have a fucking not my right. Sub-q leak on my left. Hurt so damn bad. It's all going away now. Did a mix of .4ml Tren / .5ml Test / 1ml DHB and shot in the glute (mixed it well). It's sore but tolerable. I could get more oil to mix. It's like injecting acid. 1 star. would not recommend it.

 

[Hyde]

So Metformin.. Absolutely on board with what you are daying. No, I have not run it before. I do understand this could get me low blood sugar and will be checking it daily. Also, if I can stick to 1000mg I am good with that. I would rather run it lower for longer as long as its giving me the results/or is what I need for stable levels. I am good with GI distress as semaglutide is going to slow pooping down. Maybe counterbalance? Crushed appetite is fine. I want to go low calorie as I can go with maintaining muscle, hence the tren and DHB.

I read several threads (not here) about DHB and tren combo. Seems to have a synergic effect. Seen some crazy results. Here is one but he ran that **** way higher. https://www.tmuscle.co.uk/threads/cutting-test-tren-dhb.34984/

I think the increase focus and aggression would be good to overcome some of the lack of calories. Maybe I am wrong.


Side note. My tren is 400mg tren/ml and the pip is unfucking real. I can't even inject in my shoulders. I have to do glutes. Oddly enough the DHB is fine.

At the end of the day here are the things I will say.

I am monitoring my heart: BP, heart rate
My blood sugar: daily
Aggression and assholishness: learned a lot from last time and feel better about what is real and what is not but I will back off as I see signs I don't like.

Never buy high dosed gear. Beyond PIP, the extra solvents are bad for health. Definitely better to push more oil. High dose stuff is basically for smuggling & cutting down later, or guys taking shitloads who are way beyond any health consideration.

Focus and aggression are good for enduring a cut. They are not good for keeping your cool around everyone else when you become hangry from low blood sugar from DHB while Tren is constantly activating your amygdala. You may be a rattlesnake ready to strike before you even assess the situation.

That dude was taking 1,800mg/wk, which isn’t trivial as is, but over a gram of that was Tren & DHB. That’s more comparable to running 3-4g of you basics like test/mast/eq/nandrolone. It’s not synergy - it’s just strong compounds doing what they do.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Never buy high dosed gear. Beyond PIP, the extra solvents are bad for health. Definitely better to push more oil. High dose stuff is basically for smuggling & cutting down later, or guys taking shitloads who are way beyond any health consideration.

Focus and aggression are good for enduring a cut. They are not good for keeping your cool around everyone else when you become hangry from low blood sugar from DHB while Tren is constantly activating your amygdala. You may be a rattlesnake ready to strike before you even assess the situation.

That dude was taking 1,800mg/wk, which isn’t trivial as is, but over a gram of that was Tren & DHB. That’s more comparable to running 3-4g of you basics like test/mast/eq/nandrolone. It’s not synergy - it’s just strong compounds doing what they do.

I ordered some MCT oil sterile and filtered it to cut it down. But unlikely to get it before my next scheduled injection. Might delay a day. I hope that helps because this stuff is wicked.... a lesson learned for sure.

I totally understand the rattlesnake ready to strike. I'll feel it out. If needed I can just stop, and save for a bulk later on. I have an NPP Mast Blast for next spring. Already have the gear.

I keep an eye on my blood sugar for sure and read up more so I can better manage it.

 

[Hyde]

I ordered some MCT oil sterile and filtered it to cut it down. But unlikely to get it before my next scheduled injection. Might delay a day. I hope that helps because this stuff is wicked.... a lesson learned for sure.

I totally understand the rattlesnake ready to strike. I'll feel it out. If needed I can just stop, and save for a bulk later on. I have an NPP Mast Blast for next spring. Already have the gear.

I keep an eye on my blood sugar for sure and read up more so I can better manage it.

If I sound overly cautious, understand it’s because there is way too little known about DHB by most, lots of misinformation, and you end up with people thinking 400mg is going to be a “mild dose” for some reason with no experience.

It’s no EQ; DHB to EQ is literally what DHT is to Testosterone.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

If I sound overly cautious, understand it’s because there is way too little known about DHB by most, lots of misinformation, and you end up with people thinking 400mg is going to be a “mild dose” for some reason with no experience.

It’s no EQ; DHB to EQ is literally what DHT is to Testosterone.

I'll keep it at 200mg or less. I just want to keep trying stuff out. Lots of compounds do not appeal to me for various reasons. I read a lot about DHB, but lots of that info could be wrong. I will be cautious.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

So update on maybe noticing some things. (a week in, counting preload half week)

Last night in the gym my intensity was the best it's ever been. I was doing back and I was snatching my normal weight for bent over row off the ground like it was a pillow. Was weird. It was like that for the other exercises I did too. My notes were to go up on everything.
*edit: Nope this is a real thing. Just did triceps in went up on weight on all 3 exercises I did. Still was easier than usual. Never had this effect this early ever.

Not sure if this is mental or something slowly kicking but was a good workout.

Another update is my weight shot up 7 lbs. So water weight for sure but still looking pretty lean. This is typically for me. after week three it falls off to normal.

 

[Hyde]

So update on maybe noticing some things. (a week in, counting preload half week)

Last night in the gym my intensity was the best it's ever been. I was doing back and I was snatching my normal weight for bent over row off the ground like it was a pillow. Was weird. It was like that for the other exercises I did too. My notes were to go up on everything.
*edit: Nope this is a real thing. Just did triceps in went up on weight on all 3 exercises I did. Still was easier than usual. Never had this effect this early ever.

Not sure if this is mental or something slowly kicking but was a good workout.

Another update is my weight shot up 7 lbs. So water weight for sure but still looking pretty lean. This is typically for me. after week three it falls off to normal.

You’re not imagining anything: DHB & Tren are dialing up your nervous system hard. Remember tendons will need time to catch up to the new strength, so keep your training to bodybuilding rep ranges & avoid sets under 6 reps.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Update.

Finally started Semaglutide this afternoon .25mg. My sister started it 10 days ago from my source. She said to wait for the headache and some puking the first 24-48 hours, Then it's smooth sailing. So here we go...

I had bumped my T3 up to mcg again but notice BP raised slightly. It's sitting at 130/82-4. So I am thinking I'll bump back down. Not sure it that was the cause. Im hoping with semaglutide, my sodium in my diet will come down and my BP will lower some. I am drinking a lot of water and doing cardio. I am not sure what else I should do, or even if I need to but I did stop the clen altogether.

At what point should I be concerned about BP? Normal BP is running 120/74ish

Lastly, I bought some MCT sterile oil to mix with the Tren which is a high dose. Seems better so far. The next 24- hours will tell

 

[Hyde]

Once I’m over 130/80, I am looking seriously at intervention. Whether that be dropping compounds or doses, adjusting electrolyte & water intake, adding some kind of diuretic of fluid retention is an issue, more intense natural supplementation, and/or bringing in a BP med like an ARB. Increased cardio can help, but it’s rare to find someone who will just commit to a lot more time invested in that weekly over whatever they’re already doing (or not doing).


I definitely would not let it reach a baseline of 140/90 if I have any means to prevent it.

 

[Nac]

If you end up finding the Semag sides difficult to overcome (some do), you might want to consider spliiting your weekly single shot over 5 or so pins. I ended up doing this as the nausea was fuking with me too much (and Im in a growth phase and will not tolerate any hinderance to my appetite), smaller more frequent doses totally got around the sides.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

So I dropped to 25mcg T3 today (typically take it 4 hours prior to this time, 4 am wake up to workout). I just checked my BP 117/79. The other thing I did change was that I took 25mg Viagra about 30 minutes ago. I take this for Raynaud's phenomenon, and I haven't been taking it recently. I know that can lower BP. So sitting at 117/79 I will monitor the next week doing everything I did today, if it stays in that range I will increase to 50mcg T3 again. Monitor and adjust after that. Im good with 117/79.

Edit* I understand that the half life of T3 is like 3.5 days so probably had 0 impact this morning but better to adjust and observe then jump around.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Looking for some advice. The Semaglutide I got just isn't having the impact I was expecting after 1.5 days.... Should I be feeling more. It was easier to not feel hunger yesterday day but it wasn't that noticeable. I know my stuff is good I have testing on it. Should I try dosing up to .5 from .25? My sister is taking the same source's sema and she felt ill as **** for two days and lost a bunch of weight.

 

[Hyde]

No, keep taking the graduated dosage plan and be grateful that so far it’s not kicking your ass. Lack of negative side effects do not mean lack of effects.

And watch your blood sugar.

 

[SkRaw85]

You’re not imagining anything: DHB & Tren are dialing up your nervous system hard. Remember tendons will need time to catch up to the new strength, so keep your training to bodybuilding rep ranges & avoid sets under 6 reps.

Respect the tendons is the name of the game.

 

[Nac]

250mcg is not intended to have much if any effect at all; the pharma websites themselves say this dose is not even intended to treat blood glucose levels, it is purely an initiation dose.

I have a bllood glucose meter, and it wasnt til I started approaching 100mcg per day (so 700mcg per week) that my numbers started to decrease. If youre using it for all the other benefits you might have to just be patient and ride things out til you hit 1.5mg+.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Update. I dosed up to 375mg Sema (added 5ius to 1st week, was at 10ius. I dosed second dose at that today as well 15ius.

At that increased dose. It works perfectly. No side effects just 0 thinking about food. I am eating about 1200 to 1400 calories a day. Getting as much protien as I can.

I am down from 195 to 189 first week. Likely water weight but progress. Veins in front hips area be popping. LOL.

I am feeling a little bit of nip sensitiveness which I have handled but I'm flying all day today, so will have to handle it tonight. It's very minor atm.

My metformin xr 1000mg came in last night. Will start dose tomorrow at just 1000mg to test it out.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

I took a dose of caber .25mg and 25mg aromasin. I was taking p5p but that might not be working on the tren.

My nipples are sore like a 4/10 ranking. No lumps. I was stuck in the airport and extra 12 hours because of delays. So I figured not chance sitting with this longer. Was about 36 hours.

How long should this take to get it back to normal? I have Raloxifene if needed. But not sure at what point to try more intervention.

Didn't really have it this bad last tren cycle. Just a little bit of spiciness from time to time that I treated.

 

[Hyde]

How does this cycle differ from last test/Tren run? Talking about anabolics

 

[Smont]

No, keep taking the graduated dosage plan and be grateful that so far it’s not kicking your ass. Lack of negative side effects do not mean lack of effects.

And watch your blood sugar.

I have a bad feeling about segmaglutide and tren.... hypoglycemia

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

How does this cycle differ from last test/Tren run? Talking about anabolics

Different suppliers for tren this time. High concentration per ml. That's the biggest. Plus adding the dhb.

Other than that not a ton more that is different than the semaglutide.

The caber and aromasin took it from a 4/10 to a 2/10 in about 4 hours. Should I hold out on taking more for a few days or should I address again tomorrow? I am suppose to inject everything again tomorrow. Tren, dhb, test.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

I have a bad feeling about segmaglutide and tren.... hypoglycemia

Totally hear you. I am not sure about dosing up on semaglutide. Might keep at 375 for a while. Like past the 4 weeks as it's working well.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

So overall question is my AIs. How long should I give them to resolve this before taking more? 1 day? 2 days more? Just never had much in way of issues here, atleast to this extent. No hard lumps at all. Like I said from a 4/10 to a 2/10 sensitivity.

 

[Smont]

Totally hear you. I am not sure about dosing up on semaglutide. Might keep at 375 for a while. Like past the 4 weeks as it's working well.

I haven't used segmaglutide so I'm not really familiar with dosing outside of what we know on paper. It's not something I really ever plan on using either so I'm just trying to follow or keep a eye on who's using it and what there experience is. So far the most common thing ls I see is a sick feeling in the beginning and rebound hunger and weight gain after discontinuing seg. What worries me about segmaglutide for physique purposes is that we're taking people who overeat, turn off the hunger signal and then when it's over your hunger is more then ever. I've been known to binge out after a diet just from calories being restricted so I'd probably be a prime candidate for a bad rebound after seg

 

[Mikereyn513]

I haven't used segmaglutide so I'm not really familiar with dosing outside of what we know on paper. It's not something I really ever plan on using either so I'm just trying to follow or keep a eye on who's using it and what there experience is. So far the most common thing ls I see is a sick feeling in the beginning and rebound hunger and weight gain after discontinuing seg. What worries me about segmaglutide for physique purposes is that we're taking people who overeat, turn off the hunger signal and then when it's over your hunger is more then ever. I've been known to binge out after a diet just from calories being restricted so I'd probably be a prime candidate for a bad rebound after seg

This i bet for some it feels like a post show rebound where you're just ravenous

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

I haven't used segmaglutide so I'm not really familiar with dosing outside of what we know on paper. It's not something I really ever plan on using either so I'm just trying to follow or keep a eye on who's using it and what there experience is. So far the most common thing ls I see is a sick feeling in the beginning and rebound hunger and weight gain after discontinuing seg. What worries me about segmaglutide for physique purposes is that we're taking people who overeat, turn off the hunger signal and then when it's over your hunger is more then ever. I've been known to binge out after a diet just from calories being restricted so I'd probably be a prime candidate for a bad rebound after seg

So far this is my summary. I havent been sick at all. My sister has been to the point she is now taking a break. It's made me feel like I could eat 0 calories in a day or 1600 and not care or feel the difference either way. I don't think I could get down more than that right now of healthy food.

This morning I'm at 188 down from 195.5 at the 8 day mark. Some of that is the lack of physical food weight, and water. Some of that is fat.

I tried adding metformin xr 1000mg yesterday and this morning I am shitting my guts out.

Overall I love this. I could see getting down to my goal 10% on this off 1 bottle. Even if I renound some. At 10.. who cares.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Update on nips. 1/10 on left side 0/10 on right side. I feel less stressed on this. Will inject today but keep close eye on it all.

 

[Smont]

So far this is my summary. I havent been sick at all. My sister has been to the point she is now taking a break. It's made me feel like I could eat 0 calories in a day or 1600 and not care or feel the difference either way. I don't think I could get down more than that right now of healthy food.

This morning I'm at 188 down from 195.5 at the 8 day mark. Some of that is the lack of physical food weight, and water. Some of that is fat.

I tried adding metformin xr 1000mg yesterday and this morning I am shitting my guts out.

Overall I love this. I could see getting down to my goal 10% on this off 1 bottle. Even if I renound some. At 10.. who cares.

Stop the metformin or the segmaglutide do not use them together thats a train wreck waiting to happen!

 

[Smont]

DANGER!

 

[Smont]

Lol

 

[Smont]

I'm exaggerating a little but your playing with fire, stacking diabetes medications and taking tren and not eating nearly enough food. Your bloodsugar is going to tank.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

Yeah I'll hold off on metformin until after the cycle. Too much. Plus literally never **** like that in my life.

 

[DinosaurMuffins]

OK so I write this log to help others and share my experience. So here is an update

Holy **** metformin xr. I had said previously I took it once. Now almost 48 hours ago. The bloating, sular burps and pooping is unreal. I fucking hope it stops soon. I read baed on half life 96 hour to fully clear. Damn this stuff is brutal.

Anyone have any tips to help this **** go away?

 

[Smont]

OK so I write this log to help others and share my experience. So here is an update

Holy **** metformin xr. I had said previously I took it once. Now almost 48 hours ago. The bloating, sular burps and pooping is unreal. I fucking hope it stops soon. I read baed on half life 96 hour to fully clear. Damn this stuff is brutal.

Anyone have any tips to help this **** go away?

It's all gut related, even the bloating from metformin is gut related. You can water fast for 24 hours or try probiotics "dosent help me personally " but it's a suggestion for metformin bloating for diabetics. You could take 10-15g of glutamine 3x a day for a few days. And that's about all I can think of. I'm not a fan of metformin xr. Seems like it has less benifits and more side effects

 

[Smont]

Instead of taking a bunch of diabetic medications you could drop carbs and eat all protein heavy meals and then use about 100gm of carbs around the workout or even intra workout and get fantastic results. Next week I'm gonna do a 7 day mini cut doing this with about 2200-2400 calories a day (my maintenance calories are 3300ish at the moment) I've done these in the past with great results. I like to do it on a deload week where I'm training still but with reduced weights and sub failure sets. Then after the 7 days IL go up to 3000 calories and hang there for a while until I stall out.

If yiur interested In trying something like this after segmaglutide ends msg me your current diet and your most recent diet before this so I can find maintenance and il set you up a little 7 day plan.

 

[Mikereyn513]

I've taken 1000mg of metformin for hiw long now @Smont 4 months? And never once had any issues. This is all diet related

 

[Hyde]

I've taken 1000mg of metformin for hiw long now @Smont 4 months? And never once had any issues. This is all diet related

I doubt that honestly - a lot of people get GI disturbance from Metformin, so this is why it’s recommended to start low and build it up. The same way he gets no sides from Semaglutide but his sister had issues, Metformin is individual. But it can wreck the gut biome.

I told his stubborn ass twice not to start at a gram; to break it up and start at 500mg at night once a day for a couple weeks and once he’s adjusted then go to split doses, 500 morning and night. The XR doesn’t work as well as just actually splitting the doses, same as 1 shot of test e per week isn’t as stable as multiple even though there’s an ester.

 

[Smont]

I've taken 1000mg of metformin for hiw long now @Smont 4 months? And never once had any issues. This is all diet related

Not necessarily, metformin is notorious for screwing up peoples stomachs. Happens to 1 out of 4 people or something like that. It fucks up your gut microbiome. Typically the more fat you eat the worse it gets but some people can't avoid it

 

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Not necessarily, metformin is notorious for screwing up peoples stomachs. Happens to 1 out of 4 people or something like that. It fucks up your gut microbiome. Typically the more fat you eat the worse it gets but some people can't avoid it

Right, I mean how much fat can he be eating at 1600 calories? If he’s eating even 150g protein that’s 600 calories, so if he’s eating any carbs at all he’s well within 100g fats. Very likely under 75g.

And most importantly, it was a single pill - it’s just a no-go for some folks. Berberine is the better option for them, but like you were saying I wouldn’t just add it on top of semaglutide and Tren and DHB and a low cal/carb diet without blood sugar levels somehow indicating a need for it, which they won’t.

 

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Right, I mean how much fat can he be eating at 1600 calories? If he’s eating even 150g protein that’s 600 calories, so if he’s eating any carbs at all he’s well within 100g fats. Very likely under 75g.

And most importantly, it was a single pill - it’s just a no-go for some folks. Berberine is the better option for them, but like you were saying I wouldn’t just add it on top of semaglutide and Tren and DHB and a low cal/carb diet without blood sugar levels somehow indicating a need for it, which they won’t.

Ya I would have originally went after the diet but because he's eating soo little to begin with I can't imagine diet being the culprit unless he's eating 1600 calories of processed junk.

And holy fukballz I didn't realize dhb was in the cycle too. I honestly think I would feel really bad on this cycle. Even on 100mg of tren per week paired with this bikini diet your probably gonna have a low fasted glucose and great insulin sensitivity all the time. I feel like the pots full but we keep adding more ingredients to the recipe

 

[Smont]

I wanted to add that my daughter eats 1500 calories per day on average and she's 117lbs.

1600 for most of us is a starvation diet, this isint a sustainable diet plan for the long haul in this cycle

 

[Smont]

@DinosaurMuffins sorry I'm not trying to be negative Nancy over here. I'm just trying to think of ways you can make this cycle a little more productive with less risks.