Dienazone Epi cycle and Torem

Dino79

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I’m going to be running a lean bulk cycle of Dienazone and Epi 2a3a. I’m 34, 6’ 222lbs and this is not my first dabble in PH’s. I’ve also been in the gym ever since I started working out in high school. Anyway, this little cycle will look something like this:
Week 1-6: Dienazone 2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml
Week 2-8: Epi 2a3a 30mg/40mg/40mg/40mg/40mg/40mg
Week 1-12: Torem 60mg ED

I’m going to run Torem thru the whole cycle and as part of my PCT. The only reason I had wanted to run the Torem thru the whole cycle is that i would also like to try and get rid of a small case of gyno. So I’m hoping with the extra 2 weeks of Epi (which is a strong aromatase inhibitor) combined with the Torem (my SERM for 4 weeks after the Epi) should be a good PCT. I don’t think my joints are going to be liking me too much though! I’m also running a bunch of support supplements for liver, blood pressure and joints to help me out. I also plan on running a natural Test booster thru PCT. I have read mixed reviews on Torem for running it thru the whole cycle, for PCT and I’ve also read that it didn’t work for some people. Should I add some Clomid in for PCT? It may sound like over kill but, as I’ve stated, I’ve done many PH cycles in the past and I’m trying to be a little more cautious than i have been. I would like some feedback if there’s something here I should reconsider or change.
 
I don't think this is a good plan.

I think you should get rid of your gyno before running a cycle, esp one with a 19-nor.

Epi is not going to cure your gyno.

Run like a month of ralox.
 
My main goal of the cycle is not to try and get rid of the gyno, it's not that bad, the goal is for building more mass and cutting while keeping any gyno symptoms at bay and quite possibly getting rid of it. I would like to know the reasons why you don't think this is a good plan.
 
You don't need to run a serm on cycle. What you should run is inhibit p and maybe an AI like formeron. Save your serm for PCT. Epi is not an AI. At best it inhibits estrogen like DHT would.
 
Fair enough. I have read that some people like to run Torem thru their cycles and figured I'll try it out this time. I have some Formeron and that is what I was originally going to use it for anyway. Thanks for the reassurance on that! I'm still thinking about running clomid with the torem though. I have also checked out the ralox and I'm going to try some soon since it sounds promising for getting rid of small cases of gyno. As for the dienazone and epi, do you see any problems with the way I'm staggering it or the dosages?
 
Dino79 said:
Fair enough. I have read that some people like to run Torem thru their cycles and figured I'll try it out this time. I have some Formeron and that is what I was originally going to use it for anyway. Thanks for the reassurance on that! I'm still thinking about running clomid with the torem though. I have also checked out the ralox and I'm going to try some soon since it sounds promising for getting rid of small cases of gyno. As for the dienazone and epi, do you see any problems with the way I'm staggering it or the dosages?
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have actually heard of people running nolva on cycle for gyno nv heard of torem, well forme should be good enough. your dosing seems good, idk why u think you need 2 SERMs for pct especially when you already have torem.. either one should be fine your cycle isn't that harsh..

and about that gyno, probably should take some time after that cycle to fix it..
 
Nolva and Torem are both SERMS. Everyone uses Nolva and Clomid for PCT so why wouldn't you use Torem and Clomid? I know it's a pretty weak cycle, but i remember from a past experience that Epi gave me a gyno flair up from improper PCT. Form is a definite go. That stuff is great! I'll probably use Form on the cycle and just the Torem for PCT. I will also be getting some ralox to get rid of any gyno problems when I finish the cycle.
 
That sounds like a better plan. As far as your cycle goes I think it looks fine, except I'd prolly dose the epi higher.
 
I'll probably dose the Epi at 60mg since I have to get 2 bottles anyway. My only symptoms of gyno from Epi came after i was off of it. I think by using the Form on cycle and Torem for PCT should be enough so that it doesn't happen again. I've never used the Dienazone before so I'm stoked to give it a run!
 
I have read you are not supposed to take any B6 while taking Ldopa/Macuna pruriens. Both products contain Ldopa/Macuna pruriens and Inhibit-P has Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate (Bioactive Coenzyme Form of Vitamin B6) in it. I've taken both in the past. The Prolactrone I took last year and tried my hardest to cut out taking anything containing extra B6. I took 3 bottles of it and I'd have to say, I don't think I noticed anything from the Prolactrone. It's too bad I took the Inhibit-P so long ago that I can't really remeber what type of effects it had on me to compare the two.
 
Dino79 said:
I’m going to be running a lean bulk cycle of Dienazone and Epi 2a3a. I’m 34, 6’ 222lbs and this is not my first dabble in PH’s. I’ve also been in the gym ever since I started working out in high school. Anyway, this little cycle will look something like this:
Week 1-6: Dienazone 2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml
Week 2-8: Epi 2a3a 30mg/40mg/40mg/40mg/40mg/40mg
Week 1-12: Torem 60mg ED

I’m going to run Torem thru the whole cycle and as part of my PCT. The only reason I had wanted to run the Torem thru the whole cycle is that i would also like to try and get rid of a small case of gyno. So I’m hoping with the extra 2 weeks of Epi (which is a strong aromatase inhibitor) combined with the Torem (my SERM for 4 weeks after the Epi) should be a good PCT. I don’t think my joints are going to be liking me too much though! I’m also running a bunch of support supplements for liver, blood pressure and joints to help me out. I also plan on running a natural Test booster thru PCT. I have read mixed reviews on Torem for running it thru the whole cycle, for PCT and I’ve also read that it didn’t work for some people. Should I add some Clomid in for PCT? It may sound like over kill but, as I’ve stated, I’ve done many PH cycles in the past and I’m trying to be a little more cautious than i have been. I would like some feedback if there’s something here I should reconsider or change.
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if you're concerned about the gyno you have currently, why not use letro and arimidex or something BEFORE your start your cycle???
 
I'm currently using Formeron and it has gone down quite a bit. I'm going to continue running it through my cycle. The gyno is not a huge worry for me at the moment, I'm just trying to prevent it as much as I can.
 
I've been using the Formeron for about a month and a half now. I love the stuff! I've used in the past by itself and I get excellent results from it with no noticeable sides.
 
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