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Did Anabolic Pump Work for you
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mullet is slacking on the AP manual..MULLETTT!!!!!
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Please resend.
diminuendo
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I used it on low-carb during my once a week refeeds first. I test my blood sugar (I am not diabetic) regularly, 'cause I am anal like that. Two things: I was able to reenter ketosis about 70% faster using AP than without...about the same response I get from glucophase for the record. I then used it with high GI carbs post workout to see how high my ketotic threshold was effected. Without ancillaries, 50 grams of high GI carb is enough to knock me out of ketosis. With AP on board, I can do around 75 grams of the same, and still be in ketosis 2 hours post-workout. In addition, I am able to keep muscle fullness that is usually notably absent while carb-depleted. I am only one person, but I love this supp, and now I use it in conjunction with glucophase, and have been able to stay leaner for longer than I ever have in the past.
somewhatgifted
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Whoa nice, repped for sho.
turbopugsleyl
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How would this supplement affect someone with Reactive Hypoglycemia?
strategicmove
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Yes, Anabolic Pump worked for me. Still does.
djbombsquad
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I am still taking it as I have like 4 bottles of it left. Not feeling any thing from it but I will still use it.
strategicmove
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1) How long have you been on it?
2) Would you like to share your dosing protocol?
DrakeC
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Im just about finished with a bottle, i guess i am also a nonresponder as i didnt notice anything, no dumps, no pumps, nada.
On the other hand, my wife who is also a natural bodybuilder, swears by both AP and PSlin and has used them so long you guys should be sponsoring her
So go figure, im just unlucky i guess.
On the other hand, my wife who is also a natural bodybuilder, swears by both AP and PSlin and has used them so long you guys should be sponsoring her
So go figure, im just unlucky i guess.
CHAPS
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I started to Log AP when it first came out and within 30 days my waist was down 1" and i was up 5lbs, stronger and leaner, I become a rep 3/4 the way through my log. Some may take longer to see results as they may be more insulin resistant than others. Also it seems that for those that don't seem to respond well to AP (the minority) that P-slin most definitely works.
john123131
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didnt like it before, had bad stomach issues, BUT it worked, in the end wasnt worth the washroom visits and bloat.
THEN
ive been on gut health for ever now, months and months, swear by it. I got a couple bottles of AP from a friend so decided to give it another shot. Ive been on it for a 6 days and loving it so far. I think Gut Health has helped alot for my bloat and wasroom visits because the are non-existent now. My muscle feel full...ill keep everyone updated.
THEN
ive been on gut health for ever now, months and months, swear by it. I got a couple bottles of AP from a friend so decided to give it another shot. Ive been on it for a 6 days and loving it so far. I think Gut Health has helped alot for my bloat and wasroom visits because the are non-existent now. My muscle feel full...ill keep everyone updated.
egossick
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I believe that I feel the increase in glycogen stores but after about three weeks I really do not see a significant change in my body comp or weight. I like how p-slin and ap work together. The pumps are great but not sure if I am really seeing changes in bf and lean weight.
maurice02
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I think it is, well, strength wise it is...because my recovery time between sets is amazing and I am lifting more than I was.
It is cause mudd butt, and a 3 - 4 x a day mudd butt. I have gone up about 4 or 5 pounds since starting it, and I am taking Recreate as well.
Hopefully this is not fat weight. I can't tell much of a difference physically though right now.
But 2 weeks on and I have more strength for sure. Prb gonna get another bottle and go for two months on it.
It is cause mudd butt, and a 3 - 4 x a day mudd butt. I have gone up about 4 or 5 pounds since starting it, and I am taking Recreate as well.
Hopefully this is not fat weight. I can't tell much of a difference physically though right now.
But 2 weeks on and I have more strength for sure. Prb gonna get another bottle and go for two months on it.
TenthCav
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Manual?
OK, I'm back from an injury...Still waiting for this manual...Have gotten noticable results from another supp recently (no comment on what it is, here at least), but cut the AP months ago after my supply ran out, resigned to accept non-responder status:sad:. This might change once I have that manual, however...I just might give it another chance after studying it
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OK, I'm back from an injury...Still waiting for this manual...Have gotten noticable results from another supp recently (no comment on what it is, here at least), but cut the AP months ago after my supply ran out, resigned to accept non-responder status:sad:. This might change once I have that manual, however...I just might give it another chance after studying it
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TenthCav; said:
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TenthCav
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Re: Manual
:woohoo:Thanks Strat', I shall peruse it and hopefully learn something useful...
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Make the most out of it!TenthCav; said:
Force of Green
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I read through this thread and man... I gotta say... I'm appalled by a lot of the retard consumers out there. I remember having some disrespectful things to say about USP Labs products and whatnot, but realized that when my body was properly balanced and the directions are followed, the products work.
When there are problems with the body's balance, many supplements will not yield favorable results. At this point in my life, my training, and my diet, etc. all my systems are balanced.
AP and P-Slin work quite well with me, for I think I am the perfect candidate. I'm a meso-endo/endo-meso... whatever... and I typically don't respond well to meals with moderate carbohydrates. Hence, the best physique I've achieved came from an EXTREMELY low carb diet.
I take AP verbatim as per the instructions and I do the same with P-Slin. The results are outstanding.
When there are problems with the body's balance, many supplements will not yield favorable results. At this point in my life, my training, and my diet, etc. all my systems are balanced.
AP and P-Slin work quite well with me, for I think I am the perfect candidate. I'm a meso-endo/endo-meso... whatever... and I typically don't respond well to meals with moderate carbohydrates. Hence, the best physique I've achieved came from an EXTREMELY low carb diet.
I take AP verbatim as per the instructions and I do the same with P-Slin. The results are outstanding.
corsaking
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Force of Green youre lucky in so much youve found a product that works. Ive never tried it and still need to be convinced, especially in the light of what L REA has to say about insulin insensitivity in his book BUILDING THE PERFECT BEAST -NATURALLY . I know I keep plugging this book bit I am NOT connected to ALRI. The supplements he chooses to help bodybuilders respond to insulin better are names I and expect others will recognise instantly.
If you ve not read the book try to get hold of a copy. There is a lot of focus on training routines but i feel the nutritional side is very useful.
Not only that it may give you a broader picture on how to deal with insulin insensitivity which may be more cost effective
If you ve not read the book try to get hold of a copy. There is a lot of focus on training routines but i feel the nutritional side is very useful.
Not only that it may give you a broader picture on how to deal with insulin insensitivity which may be more cost effective
Bravoboy
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I've tried it for the past 2 days. I work out in the A.M. some. I took it before 70gms of carbs and I notice a little pump during workout. How many pills should I exactly take. Just one or add more than one.
I'm testing before my run with AP/Drive/Stoked.
I'm just testing it before my w/o not 3 times a day. Will it need time to kick in or will I see more with 3 meals a day for a pump?
I'm testing before my run with AP/Drive/Stoked.
I'm just testing it before my w/o not 3 times a day. Will it need time to kick in or will I see more with 3 meals a day for a pump?
Force of Green
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Yeah, I have both books... The one about Building the Perfect Steroid Beast and the other natural one. I gave the AP a shot, because I don't think things like ALA are that great of partitioning agents. I would just get hypo and the carbs would go to muscle and fat as well. AP is very innovative. A lot of people will go out and use a designer steroid that has been out for 2 days, but AP contains a highly engineered extract of something that's been used for ages and some are afraid to try it.
Force of Green
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Bravoboy, I would take it as directed before all carb meals. And it may take some time to get working, sure. Just use it as directed.
Force of Green
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And also with you 
strategicmove
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Did you change the dosing protocols?ropehead; said:ap worked bad ass the first bottle. i got ripped to shreds eating schlotzky's and pizza. it lost its luster after that. ive tried about 5 times since and still nothing. took a year off of it and currently started it again but to no avail
Did you eat more carbohydrates than usual?
How did this "loss of lustre" look like? - Did you gain fat on Anabolic Pump?
Some more detail might help put your position into clearer perspective...
corsaking
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i remember sometime ago contributing to a forum on anabolic pump and i think it was mulletsoldier who spent quite a bit of time trying to convince me to buy this supplement which he failed to do.He did so by explaining the theory behind it. I remained unconvinced. A week or so on , i find it interesting that in the poll on AP didnt work for most of those who bought it. Perhaps now is the time for USP labs to withdraw the product so we stop wasting money .
strategicmove
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I do not think your conclusion is entirely fair, nor correct. There is hardly a food supplement that works for everyone. Most do not work for most. Anabolic Pump is a product that requires some amount of learning on the part of the user to work. Timing the dose plus carefully measuring the type and amount of carbohydrates (and proteins) one consumes at a specific time after taking the dose of Anabolic Pump makes a lot of difference. Users that take their time to experiment are usually rewarded with consistent results from Anabolic Pump. Let's not forget there are different body types and different reactions to carbohydrate absorption. This is so important that it might help some to take a look at the write-up: Invalid Link Removedcorsaking; said:
Now to the results of the poll. As far as I can see, there are 313 responses as at today. 130 said Anabolic Pump did not work for them. 27 admitted they did not put enough effort into making sure it worked for them. 156 said it worked for them, either from day 1 or after a while. So, it appeared to have worked for more (156) than otherwise (130). This is not trivial, as you wrongly suggested it did not work for most. Furthermore, we should not forget that not everyone that has used Anabolic Pump voted here.
All in all, I do not support your conclusion that Anabolic Pump should be discontinued. I consider it an excellent product that can deliver significant results on a consistent basis, once a user takes his time to understand the way his/her body responds to carbohydrates (and proteins), as well as the appropriate amount of carbohydrates to be consumed after a specific amount of time post-Anabolic Pump dose.
corsaking
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to strategicmove
quote from previous message----"All in all, I do not support your conclusion that Anabolic Pump should be discontinued. I consider it an excellent product that can deliver significant results on a consistent basis, once a user takes his time to understand the way his/her body responds to carbohydrates (and proteins), as well as the appropriate amount of carbohydrates to be consumed after a specific amount of time post-Anabolic Pump dose"
I would be interested to know how long it took you to understand the way your body responded to carbohydrates (and proteins),and to what lengths you went to get the appropriate amount of carbs/protein specific to you
quote from previous message----"All in all, I do not support your conclusion that Anabolic Pump should be discontinued. I consider it an excellent product that can deliver significant results on a consistent basis, once a user takes his time to understand the way his/her body responds to carbohydrates (and proteins), as well as the appropriate amount of carbohydrates to be consumed after a specific amount of time post-Anabolic Pump dose"
I would be interested to know how long it took you to understand the way your body responded to carbohydrates (and proteins),and to what lengths you went to get the appropriate amount of carbs/protein specific to you
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strategicmove
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Please edit the first part of your ^ post to reflect it as a quote!
metalman302
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Oh really? So I guess Paul Miller shrank 6" or so between his pics? Reference the top of his head and his navel in the before, then look STRAIGHT ACROSS and line them up with the after. Hmmmmmm..... WTF was I thinking buying your products after seeing this skewed picture? SHould've listened to my instincts.
AP didn't do jack for me and neither did Pslin so I'll hate on both.
I tried every combo of ammount of carb, type of carb, and timing between dosing and eating and workout. Never felt a damn thing.
Carbs I tried:
WMS
Maltodextrin
Oatmeal
Whole Wheat tortillas and/or bread
Rice
Beans
Sweet Potatoes
Other food I at between large AP meals would typically be fruit or whey shakes
And yes I did research it and heard reports of a "blood pressure cuff effect" so yeah... I was pretty dissapointed that I didn't feel ANYTHING. I also don't believe I got any signifigant fat loss specifically from AP. I got only very minor fat loss and this was even with perfect diet and stacked with LX2 and Retain 2.
Distilled Water
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why wereyou wipeing out cortisol form your body :blink:
corsaking
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If you want to maximise the insulin spike there are cheaper ways of doing it .I suggest you read what L. Rea has to say about this in his book Building the Perfect Beast Naturally. NO I DONT WORK FOR ALRI but it offers a simplistic approach to getting the best from insulin using ingredients that are very familiar and cheaper.
Supplement companies play on the fact that we have the drive and desire to acheive a goodlooking muscular body and will use all the hype they can to get us to spend good money.
I remember reading once that bodybuilders would eat dog poo
if there was enough hype telling them it would build muscle.
A little extreme perhaps, but it is time that supplement companies stopped taking a herb which in folklore medicine has been used for one thing , then transferring into a bodybuilding supplement and claiming it can work wonders.Im speaking generally here and not specific to AP or Pslin
We all know there is only one product which has had years of use and it works. its been tested time and time again before ever being released for use by the general public. There is data showing how they behave in humans and are considerably cheaper than some supplements .I refer of course to steroids .a class c drug here in the UK.
So we have a choice obtain a steroid on the black market and run a course which we know will boost muscle growth or constantly spend good cash on the latest supplement that may or may not work .Only you can decide that one but in conclusion i suggest that through forum like this you continue to make supplement companies aware of products that dont work .When their profits start falling then they may start looking at supplements in a different light
Supplement companies play on the fact that we have the drive and desire to acheive a goodlooking muscular body and will use all the hype they can to get us to spend good money.
I remember reading once that bodybuilders would eat dog poo
if there was enough hype telling them it would build muscle.
A little extreme perhaps, but it is time that supplement companies stopped taking a herb which in folklore medicine has been used for one thing , then transferring into a bodybuilding supplement and claiming it can work wonders.Im speaking generally here and not specific to AP or Pslin
We all know there is only one product which has had years of use and it works. its been tested time and time again before ever being released for use by the general public. There is data showing how they behave in humans and are considerably cheaper than some supplements .I refer of course to steroids .a class c drug here in the UK.
So we have a choice obtain a steroid on the black market and run a course which we know will boost muscle growth or constantly spend good cash on the latest supplement that may or may not work .Only you can decide that one but in conclusion i suggest that through forum like this you continue to make supplement companies aware of products that dont work .When their profits start falling then they may start looking at supplements in a different light
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Anabolic Pump works independent of Insulin.
You should understand the comparison before comparing.
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ap worked bad ass the first bottle. i got ripped to shreds eating schlotzky's and pizza. it lost its luster after that. ive tried about 5 times since and still nothing. took a year off of it and currently started it again but to no avail
Mabye the problem was the diet of Pizza and scholzky's not Anabolic Pump.
This post screams of idiotic fiction.
At the end of the day stop tyring to decipher from the slander and the truth from this thread. The fact is Anabolic Pump has been the top moving product at Nutraplanet since it's release 18 months ago.
Anabolic Pump is the reason that USPlabs sky rocketed from an internet brand to world wide distribution breaking all kinds of sales records at Vitamin Shoppe and just recently destroyed gold card week at GNC....hard to argue with these facts.
ropehead
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slow down bro, i wasnt slamming ap. i was stating my experience. no need to be name calling. i was simply stating my experience i had. maybe you didnt understand what i meant by the pizza etc. i was saying that i got ripped to shreds on my first bottle in a diet that was less than disciplined. usp products are usually a staple for me and ive had no complaints except the recycled dirty bottles and price raise from the addition of boxes. but whatever....
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Price has NEVER increased but decreased a few dollars at NP.
Your slander is obvious from many perspectives beyond your 2 post count.
corsaking
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quote from advert" The critical 60-90 minute time period after your workout where your muscles are soaking up amino acids and carbohydrates like a dry sponge in a rain storm, is what USP Labs refers to as the "Window Of Opportunity".
"When GLUT4 is activated, it comes to the surface of the cell and begins to suck mass-building nutrients into the muscle cell like an industrial-sized vacuum! This is when all of the magic happens because your body is in a super-anabolic state, absorbing nutrients, building muscle and burning fat. This is a optimum time for the natural guy to build muscle and shred fat. "
If AP works independent of insulin why are you overriding insulins role ? Also if the product is designed to shuttle nutrients into the muscle , there surely come a point when the product becomes ineffective because the muscle has reached saturation point.So on non training days when there isnt the need to shuttle nutrients into the muscle , the body will not be depleted of them so why take the product on these days. .As insulin will continue to carry out its role in the human body is there not a point reached when AP and insulin are working in tandem or are you trying to take over insulins role.?
I assume that everyone taking your product is healthy and has no problems relating to diabetes .Phellodendron an ingredient in AP is used in Chinese medicine to treat stomach problems and diarrhea,diabetes, meningitis, pneumonia, tuberculosis,This is another example of a herb taken from mainstream complimentary medicine and "manipulated" to suit body building needs
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What the hell does over-riding insulins role even mean?
The "window of opportunity" is not insulin related.
How do you reach glycogen saturation? I'm interested since you state it as fact.
Why isn't there a need to increase carbohydrate efficiency on off days? I assume recovery from exercise does not require the body to metabolize glycogen, or the brain turns off the need for glycogen on off days. who in the hell needs ATP on off days:frustrate
Lord, what is mainstream complimentary medicine? Are you just placing long words together to cast a shadow of intelligence?
strategicmove
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corsaking; said:
Insulin is a storage hormone. As a consequence, it is a non-selective glucose disposal agent. This means it does not discriminate between muscle and adipose cells. Anabolic Pump does. Besides, you do not want to experience spikes in insulin levels after consumption of carbohydrate meals. This might provoke what is known as "post-prandial oxidative stress".
corsaking; said:
No one has suggested users of Anabolic Pump should take an unlimited amount of carbohydrates. And because GLUT-4 cells are always required for glucose disposal, a product that activates them can, by definition, never become ineffective.
corsaking; said:
The beauty of Anabolic Pump is that it works independently of insulin. This means that endogenous insulin levels are stable in the presence of carbohydrate consumption. This also means that the cells retain their insulin sensitivity, a crucial result, if insulin imbalances are to be avoided.
corsaking; said:
Most of the successful and effective supplements utilize herbs that have demonstrated effectiveness in thousands of years of Ayurvedic and traditional Chinese medicine.
ropehead
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way to be professional to loyal customers.
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Doubt you are a loyal customer, and I rather not have you as a customer spewing pure ignorance.
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Exactly, Pharmaceutical drugs begin as herbs or from natural sources and only modified for patent purposes and not to increase effectiveness.