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Dianabol problems

Kleaver

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I started my Test C and Dbol cycle 9 days ago. This is my 2nd cycle......stats

early 40s
220lbs
16% bf ( I was sub 14% before starting) just guessing but feel pretty bloated

I am doing 600 mg of test C (split into two doses)
and 20mg Dbol

I started with 50mg of Dbol but it was too strong. Mine comes as 50mg blue pills, so I have to split them into 4 pieces. Its not exact, but close) After I started at 50mg split up through the day I got major back pumps the next day. I knocked it down to 30 mg and now about 20 mg a day. I am taking 5000mg of taurine a day and drinking a lot of water, but still having debilitating back pumps.

It must have 'kicked in" this morning and I was strong as a bull in the gym. Big strength increase and I have added 4 pounds in a week. I am eating about 3600 calories (500 above maint) and it is pretty clean. Macros 40%protein/35%protein/25%fats. I don't like carbs too much, I seem to be carb sensitive and I am already feeling like a freaking walrus.

My problem now is whether or not to drop it from the cycle. Bad sides (for me) but now that I am seeing the positive effects, I may keep it and just not have a real leg day for about 3 more weeks. Hell, 80% of the people in my gym don't do legs anyway...hahaha
 
Yodambomb said:
What are back pumps anyways ? I've taken quite a few PH cycles and I've never noticed them I don't think ..
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As far as I know, it's mineral/fluid retention...They can be really painful. When I used to run SD and go play pickup games I would have to lay on the ground due to my lower back.
 
GeekPoop said:
lower back feels pumped up. do a lot of high rep dead lifts and thats the feeling
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Yeah I'm thinking about doing deadlifts this time on my DMZ and probably will do squats but won't go too heavy since I'm kind of a novice at it , although I do have the potential to get strong at em .
 
Yodambomb said:
Yeah I'm thinking about doing deadlifts this time on my DMZ and probably will do squats but won't go too heavy since I'm kind of a novice at it , although I do have the potential to get strong at em .
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pretty sure most people get them because they don't drink enough water. I drink minimum of 2 gallons a day, and some of the cycles I've done are stupid. I've only gotten them like once when I first started taking stuff, and taurine fixed them immediately. I think water is a better alternative just a better habit to get into IMO
 
GeekPoop said:
pretty sure most people get them because they don't drink enough water. I drink minimum of 2 gallons a day, and some of the cycles I've done are stupid. I've only gotten them like once when I first started taking stuff, and taurine fixed them immediately. I think water is a better alternative just a better habit to get into IMO
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I agree about the lack water contributing to back pumps. Ran SD over a month ago to kick strt a test c cycle and they weren't debilitating like on Epi. I was working construction during the summer while in college when I took epi and drank over 1 gallon a day but would sweat it right out all day so dehydration may have played into it .
 
TaylorSwift said:
There is your problem.
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That's not my problem, trust me. I work legs heavy, I was referring to the other guys at the gym.

I usually drink about 1 gallon to 1.5 gallons a day. I am bumping up the Taurine and see how it goes. Leg day today, so I will see if it works. I can see why people like Dbol though. Very fast growth
 
I did try 5 mg of Taurine preworkout and then another 5 mg throughout the day. It worked for the most part. I knocked out some heavy squats along with the rest of the workout. I have put on 8 lbs in 11 days and my strength in through the roof. Obviously a lot of the weight is water, but not all of it. I'm increasing my water and maybe my AI a little to reduce bloat.
 
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