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Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement

fatburner2007 said:
Thinking of something like the following:

Week 1: Jungle Warfare and Alpha Drive
Week 2: Jungle Warfare and Alpha Drive
Week 3: Jungle Warfare, Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 4: Jungle Warfare, Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 5: Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 6: Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 7: Sustain and Alpha Drive
Week 8: Sustain and Alpha Drive
Week 9: Sustain and Alpha Drive
Week 10: Sustain and Alpha Drive

How does this look?
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Stacking 2 ADED products is crazy IMHO. Ditch the Alpha Drive.
 
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ADED is a ATD motabolite.
It is supresive (from memory) and contained in both Alpha Drive and Jungle... Say good by to erections.
 
OK, so something like this then:

Week 1: Jungle Warfare
Week 2: Jungle Warfare
Week 3: Jungle Warfare and Dermacrine
Week 4: Jungle Warfare and Dermacrine
Week 5: Dermacrine
Week 6: Dermacrine
Week 7: Sustain
Week 8: Sustain
Week 9: Sustain
Week 10: Sustain



nelix said:
Stacking 2 ADED products is crazy IMHO. Ditch the Alpha Drive.
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When people talk about "i am on week 3 of my cycle and i'm seeing changes" Are there any other indicators apart from adding say 20 lbs to a bench press by the third week?
 
methodice said:
When people talk about "i am on week 3 of my cycle and i'm seeing changes" Are there any other indicators apart from adding say 20 lbs to a bench press by the third week?
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When it comes to test boosters strength and mood are effected pretty fast. The labs on the primordial website show (in a 22yo male) a boost of 77% in 2 weeks... 500% in a 31yo and 110% in a 44yo...

Other "changes" might include oily skin and aggression.

There are other details like DHEA etc on there website.
 
methodice said:
When people talk about "i am on week 3 of my cycle and i'm seeing changes" Are there any other indicators apart from adding say 20 lbs to a bench press by the third week?
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A lot of guys notice an incredible spike in appetite while on Dermacrine (around the 2nd – 3rd week) along with a little more aggression or possibly irritability.

-Pp
 
There is a lot of good info on Invalid Link Removed in this thread that should be bumped, and for those that are interested, our new Invalid Link Removed is the perfect product to stack with Dermacrine.

-Pp
 
For all those waitin on their Dermacrine - Some of the ingredients got held up in Customs, which has set us back...

All Dermacrine back orders should be shipping early this week. (4 & 5th)

-Pp
 
I can personally vouch for Phyto-Test, lovely product, does what it claims. Going to post a review when done. Double dosing this baby would be mm m mmmmm good! :)

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
Primordial Perf said:
Guys, we just threw up a "BUY ONE, GET ONE" offer thats good for the next 72 hrs.

Order directly from Primordial, buy one Dermacrine at regular price, and get one totaly free. Just enter "FREE DERMACRINE" into the comments section on the last order page.

For more info on Dermacrine check out this thread -
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Thanks!

-Pp
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OH SNAPZ. I just may have to do this, although I won't be cycling again until who-knows-when-how-whatamItalkingaboutBUYTHISNOW
 
I understand why the DHEA is good but why do you put pregnenalone in Dermacrine. What does it add to the product?? Does it help increase gains? Thanks
 
Primordial Perf said:
Well the Derma has a shelf life of about a 18 months... ;-)

-Pp
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Just to take it a step further... how will the solution react if frozen? Aside from the separation of the componants, which is an easy fix with hot water and spanish-festival-maraca shaking, do you think it's worth it? Have yet to freeze a topical solution for long-term storage(probably right around that 18 month mark).

Sticking some P-Plex bottles in the freezer, and they could sure use some buddies to chat with for a few years.
 
AML said:
I understand why the DHEA is good but why do you put pregnenalone in Dermacrine. What does it add to the product?? Does it help increase gains? Thanks
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The pregnenolone provides some mental benefits in and of itself, but it also helps balance with the DHEA and reduce some of the side effects. Most importantly, pregnenolone readily converts to progesterone, which reduces 5a-reductase and the formation of DHT thus preventing any problems with hair loss.

I’m not so sure on the freezer storage... stuff would fall out of solution and likely stick to the sides of the containers pretty bad. It might permanently mess up the emulsion too.

-Pp
 
This stuff is lovely! Highly recommended for young and old alike! Had a lovely libido boost etc with this.

Guys if you used this stuff and found it's a stand up product feel free to post a review etc etc over on bb.com to get the word out!

This company is top notch!
 
wheels said:
Primordial Perf said:
A lot of guys notice an incredible spike in appetite while on Dermacrine (around the 2nd – 3rd week) along with a little more aggression or possibly irritability.

-Pp[/QUOTEWhat causes the spike in appetite and aggession ?
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The appetite is increased by the increase in metabolism and protein retention. Plus, none of the hormones in Dermacrine put stress on the liver, so you don’t get the typical reduction in appetite associated with a lot of methylated pro-hormones.

The aggression/motivational energy is probably caused by the neuro-active hormones DHEA, pregnenolone and their metabolites.

-Pp
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Primordial Perf said:
wheels said:
The appetite is increased by the increase in metabolism and protein retention. Plus, none of the hormones in Dermacrine put stress on the liver, so you don’t get the typical reduction in appetite associated with a lot of methylated pro-hormones.

The aggression/motivational energy is probably caused by the neuro-active hormones DHEA, pregnenolone and their metabolites.

-Pp
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Is Deamacrine consider a PH because of the amount of dhea that makes to your bloodstream ?
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Primordial Perf said:
Dermacrine would be a fine addition to your supplement regimen. If you only did 2-4 week cycles then you wouldn’t really need a PCT, but it certainly would keep things running optimally if you switched to Sustain during your Dermacrine off period.

You would probably notice that you could hike much more frequently and for longer periods of time since your body would be repairing faster… this extra training and the increased thermogenesis from the product itself could help you burn excess body fat. The increase in appetite would allow you to eat more protein which would then foster further muscle gains.

-Pp
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Answered my question.
I was going to ask if running Dermacrine for a month, then Sustain for a month/or two and then off one month before starting Dermacrine again would be good.

Thanks a bunch.
 
Something alot of guys have been thinking about, I think the 5/2 protocol is needed when running Transdermals that long at 4 pmps dly. JMO
 
Knowbull said:
Something alot of guys have been thinking about, I think the 5/2 protocol is needed when running Transdermals that long at 4 pmps dly. JMO
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5/2 is referring to days , correct?

if so thats my normal cycle for test boosters and similar.
 
Primordial Perf said:
Just to clarify, run the Dermacrine everyday... and the Sustain in a 5 on, 2 off fashion.

-Eric
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thats different
but okay.
whe i am able to get some, i will run it exactly as you guys say,
thanks a bunch.
 
Question.....
I've been using Dermacrine along with Super Miraforte for a few weeks now and have experienced interesting results. Most noticeable are an apparent change of body composition (leaner, even my wife noticed), lower sleep requirement, and increased appetite (I can eat a meal and be hungry again in an hour), and I'm strong as hell for a 55 year old. Question is, at the end of my planned four weeks on this, should I try Sustain for another 4 weeks. From what I have read here so far, that seems like the way to go.

Here is the Super Miraforte fact sheet:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2 capsules

Servings Per Container 60

Amount Per Serving
Zinc (as zinc monomethionine)
7.5 mg

Chrysin
750 mg

Muira puama (Ptychopetalum olacoides) powdered extract (bark)
425 mg

Maca (Lepidium meyenii) (root) (also known as Peruvian ginseng)
160 mg

Nettle (Urtica dioica) powdered methanolic extract (root)
141 mg

Ginger (Zingiber officinale) powdered extract (rhizome)
25 mg


HMRlignan™ Norway spruce (Picea abies) lignan extract (knot wood) [standardized to 90% Hydroxymatairesinol potassium acetate complex (15 mg)]
16.7 mg

Bioperine® piperine (from black pepper)
7.5 mg

Other ingredients: gelatin, magnesium stearate, silica, maltodextrin.

Contains corn. This product contains NO milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish (lobster, crab, shrimp), soybeans, tree nuts, wheat, yeast, gluten, or rice. Contains NO sugar, and no artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors, or preservatives.


HMRlignan™ is a trademark used under sublicense from Linnea S.A.
Bioperine® is a registered trademark of Sabinsa Corp.

Dosage and Use
For adult men, take two capsules in the morning and two in the evening, or as recommended by a healthcare practitioner.

This product can be taken with or without food.
 
Arbor said:
Most noticeable are an apparent change of body composition (leaner, even my wife noticed), lower sleep requirement, and increased appetite (I can eat a meal and be hungry again in an hour), and I'm strong as hell for a 55 year old.
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These are the typical results with Dermacrine… which tend to be even more pronounced the older you are.

To answer your question, yes, you want to take the Sustain for 4 weeks after the Dermacrine. We recommend that you take atleast 4 weeks off from a 4 week cycle of Dermacrine.

Also, Id maybe save the Miraforte for when you are on the Sustain.... but you could continue running it throughout the Dermacrine and Sustain cycle if you want.

-Eric
 
Thank you for the reply. I ordered the Sustain and am looking forward to trying it. Your 1-T looks very interesting also. Where would you suggest I work that in?
 
Arbor said:
Thank you for the reply. I ordered the Sustain and am looking forward to trying it. Your 1-T looks very interesting also. Where would you suggest I work that in?
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You would use the 1-T instead of Dermacrine. (for 4 weeks each time)

Thanks for the support

-Eric
 
alwaysgaining said:
idk with all the hype abot u having to get it through the skin in order to get the right conversion, besides i like topicals. can this really be 3x effective? or 3x more the results?
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Yeah, up to 3x more absorption... and possibly better results.

Ive youve gotten great results with the topical in the past then stick with it. But we think a lot of people just had problems with the lotion, not spreading it on thin enough, showering it off too soon, having the skin of a rhino, ect...

There is really no room for error with the new Liqua-Vade... the hormones are going to get into your system fast... no question.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Yeah, up to 3x more absorption... and possibly better results.

Ive youve gotten great results with the topical in the past then stick with it. But we think a lot of people just had problems with the lotion, not spreading it on thin enough, showering it off too soon, having the skin of a rhino, ect...

There is really no room for error with the new Liqua-Vade... the hormones are going to get into your system fast... no question.

-Eric
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sweet i just cant wait for nutraplanet to stock it lol
 
Primordial Perf said:
Our stock is already pretty slim and we haven't even started distributing it to retailers yet... if NP gets it probably wont be until next year.

-Eric
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haha idk weather to belive this! u leave me no choice might aswell pick up some of yer cla since im there. uve said the older u are the better the results how are the effects on ppl in there 20s?
 
alwaysgaining said:
haha idk weather to belive this! u leave me no choice might aswell pick up some of yer cla since im there. uve said the older u are the better the results how are the effects on ppl in there 20s?
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Results with Dermacrine?

Older guys generally "feel" it sooner because they are used to having lower hormones, then all of a sudden, BAM... they get hit with a jolt of young juice so it has quite a noticable impact.

For younger guys, I feel that those who are training the hardest, and have a good idea of their strength and performance potential will really notice the most benefit from Dermacrine. The first benefit we hear about is that you can push way past the sticking points... and start training harder and heavier.

-Eric
 
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